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To: Cinnamon; Tzimisce
It is quite clear that beating an unconscious person while he is on the ground is a very serious act and should be prosecuted... And I am not trying to take sides. But there are a number of disturbing incidents in this situation.

What the blacks are complaining about is the fact that no whites have been charged.

There is not enough information about the shotgun incident, for example, for me to know what happened there. Was the WHITE GUY defending himself and it was taken away (which is possible).

Or did the WHITE GUY threathen the blacks with the shotgun?

The RUMOR floating around South Louisiana is that a White student brought a SHOTGUN to school, and it was taken away by black students. I can't tell how much truth or if this false from the article -- it is just possible after reading the article. The article clearly says a WHITE MAN. But where did it occur. Was it an older student (say 20 or 21 years old) that was considered a man?

The other disturbing thing is the statement by a white District Attorney Walters that with a stroke of his pen he could make people disappear.

What makes this a significant issue with blacks and people out of state is that no white person has been charged. There could have been charges brought (possibly) against white students -- the three hangman nooses incident, the beer bottles thrown at the black student, possibly the shotgun.

Again, I am not taking sides as trying to provide the view of both sides.

8 posted on 09/20/2007 10:28:52 PM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: topher

The rumor you heard is probably false because it sounds like a combination of two separate incidents:

One incident occurred at a store where a white teen pulled his shotgun on a group of black teens. (Eyewitnesses supported the white teen’s story that it was in self-defense, though of course the black teens involved say otherwise.)

The other incident was a rumor that a student had brought a gun to the school; the school went into lockdown, and the authorities never found a gun.

Here’s a timeline from the Jena Times:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1899967/posts


10 posted on 09/20/2007 10:40:58 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: topher

>It is quite clear that beating an unconscious person while he is on the ground is a very serious act and should be prosecuted... And I am not trying to take sides.<

Then why are you even responding?

>But there are a number of disturbing incidents in this situation. What the blacks are complaining about is the fact that no whites have been charged.<

....with what? In this particular case, six black kids beat up a white kid severely. What should the white kid be charge with?

(Well, there was a noose hung...)

#1 - the kids that did it were punished.
#2 - that doesn’t justify beating someone half to death

(Well, there was an incident with a gun...)

Again, it’s a separate issue that doesn’t excuse beating someone half to death.

This assault was a HATE CRIME - but no one in the unbiased, non partisan press seems to think that is worth mentioning.

There were SIX black guys who attacked ONE white guy. The white guy went unconscious and they CONTINUED their assault anyway.

What would be said if the races were reversed in this situation? (Be honest.)

>There is not enough information about the shotgun incident, for example, for me to know what happened there. Was the WHITE GUY defending himself and it was taken away (which is possible).

Or did the WHITE GUY threathen the blacks with the shotgun?<

What did the black guys say to him? There were six of them btw. If a couple of nooses hanging from a tree are considered threatening, then what about six big guys in your face threatening you? (And probably using racial slurs?)

>The RUMOR floating around South Louisiana is that a White student brought a SHOTGUN to school, and it was taken away by black students. I can’t tell how much truth or if this false from the article — it is just possible after reading the article. The article clearly says a WHITE MAN. But where did it occur. Was it an older student (say 20 or 21 years old) that was considered a man?<

Again - this is a separate incident that doesn’t justify a vicious attack.

>The other disturbing thing is the statement by a white District Attorney Walters that with a stroke of his pen he could make people disappear.<

Another separate incident. If true, what the DA did was wrong. Again this doesn’t justify an attack.

>What makes this a significant issue with blacks and people out of state is that no white person has been charged.<

If we’re going to end the racism, let’s end it. “Whites always get away with it” is a racial stereotype (and I’m told wrong.) Blacks are always oppressed is another stereotype (and I’m told is wrong.) But because those are Politically Correct, we’ll let them go.

You also keep emphasizing that you have no idea which story is correct - but I notice you’re willing to believe the black guys over the white.

>There could have been charges brought (possibly) against white students — the three hangman nooses incident, the beer bottles thrown at the black student, possibly the shotgun.<

The noose kids were given in school suspension.

>Again, I am not taking sides as trying to provide the view of both sides.<

You’re not taking sides? You just made the case for the black kids. If you don’t want to take sides, then stay out of it. But if you want to debate - pick one.


17 posted on 09/20/2007 11:20:04 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: topher
And you're doing a decent job of not taking sides (not being flippant--actually complimenting).

And you've given much more information than the readily available (television and newspaper) news coming here (you're mentioning of a shotgun and bottles didn't make the television news).

25 posted on 09/21/2007 12:51:01 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: topher

The problem with the propaganda is that the truth is glaringly left out. I’ve linked the true time line from the local paper both here and in another thread.

The fact is that the beating of Justin Barker by the Six Thugs had NOTHING to do with all of the other incidents. Justin had nothing to do with any of those other incidents either. These six kids have a multitude of convictions for violent acts going back since one of them was 10 years old.


50 posted on 09/21/2007 6:45:23 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: topher

Poor job of presenting both sides.......rumors have no place in the story.


88 posted on 09/22/2007 7:16:50 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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