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Arnold's "No New Taxes" Rhetoric Was Just That - All Talk
FlashReport ^ | 9-18-2007 8:16 am | Jon Fleischman

Posted on 09/18/2007 11:21:00 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan

"Everything is on the table," said Governor Schwarzenegger yesterday, when asked whether he would support a statewide sales tax, in this case, as part of a massive government intervention into health care in California. The Governor said that he could support placing a tax hike on the ballot on which Californians can vote. Presumably the Republican Governor, after negotiating such a "deal" for California taxpayers, would then advocate its passage as well.

Shame on Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I don't know how to sugar coat this, so I will just say it like it is -- he lied. He lied to me, he lied to his supporters and he lied to all Californians. When he campaigned for re-election last year, he said he was "moderate on social issues, progressive on environmental issues, and conservative on fiscal issues."

I cannot remember a stump speech that the Governor delivered to Republican activists, and I heard quite a few as a grassroots supporter of his campaign, where he did not flat out state his opposition to raising taxes, period. There was no audible "asterisk" qualifying his opposition to new taxes. Schwarzenegger's firm opposition to increasing taxes, in contrast to billions in tax hikes being promoted by Democrat Phil Angelides, helped to keep the Republican base fired up for the Governor while he reached out to Democrat voters with his social and environmental views.

Along with all of my fellow Republicans, we have been trying to practice a terrible balancing act, perched precariously on the Governor's stool while it is has been balanced on just one leg -- solid opposition to new taxes. Well, the Governor has yanked that stool out from under us and we Republicans have now all fallen on the floor. I don't know if it is more embarrassing, frustrating, or upsetting. My Republican Governor has proposed taxes on hospitals, income taxes on medical professionals, and now he is "open" to supporting a statewide sales tax.

The mantra that the Governor has been spewing on healthcare is downright... liberal. He has wrapped himself around the banner of the notion of "hidden taxes" and articulating that there is a cost to all insurance-holding Californians to provide coverage to all of those who do not have health care insurance and that this justifies tax hikes. He is correct about insurance-holding Californians bearing the costs of the uninsured, though the experts at the Hoover Institute have released a study showing that this burden is much lower than has been articulated by the Governor. But the next step that Schwarzenegger takes is to say that we should, in essence, replace the so-called "hidden tax" with actual non-hidden, overt taxes. What the Governor proposes is no fiscally conservative solution. It is not even a moderate one. His proposals on health care "reform" are quite liberal, and are based around this left-wing straw man called "shared responsibility."

Shared responsibility is just another way to say government responsibility, and moves away from a bedrock American principle -- individual responsibility. There is a notion in America, unlike any other place in the world, that here you have freedom. Freedom to succeed, and freedom to fail. You have opportunity that is boundless, but that comes from the notion of a limited government, one that affords liberty to its citizenry. The price for this freedom and liberty is individual responsibility, and the Governor's direction on health care "reform" in California is counter to this philosophical approach towards the proper role of government in our society.

Today in the Wall Street Journal, former Presidential advisor Karl Rove has an outstanding opinion piece in which he articulates a broad number of market-oriented approaches that government can take to increasing the accessibility to and the quality of health care in America -- including leveling the tax playing field through tax deductions or credits, tax-free savings for health costs, increase competition by allowing insurance companies to offer policies across state lines, allow for greater pooling of risk by small companies, increase transparency of medical costs so that American consumers understand what they are paying for, and reigning in junk lawsuits that are driving costs up dramatically. These are just some areas where market principles can be applied to make our health care system in America better -- without attacking the core American principles of freedom and liberty.

Today there is a bold headline in the Los Angeles Times proclaiming "In Clinton Health Plan, Coverage Is Mandatory" -- referring to the latest "HillaryCare" proposal to massively increase the federal government's role in health care. I find it disturbing that both Hillary Clinton and Arnold Schwarzenegger have at the core of their respective proposals the notion that carrying health care insurance is no longer the responsibility of the individual, but is the role of the government. Both want to move us in the direction of European socialism, and this should be rejected from the outset.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; arnoldcare; arnoldlegacy; arnoldschwarzenegger; ca; calbudget; california; girlieman; healthcare; liberal; rino; schwarzenegger; sharedresponsibility; taxes
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To: Badeye

I think Cheney and Halliburton are probably pulling the strings at Diebold. You know, like how they are controlling the billions spent on Iraqi reconstruction, only to enrich the greedy fat cat republicans, and on the New Orleans cleanup. A key piece of the VWRC which The Beast is standing up to.


21 posted on 09/18/2007 11:59:47 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: dashing doofus

ROTFL!

Thanks, I needed the laugh you just provided.


22 posted on 09/18/2007 12:00:35 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye
You gave us Boxer and Feinstein

New York gave us Schumer and Hillary Clinton.

Anyone care to try and top that?

We New Yorkers are the best at everything, even when it comes to being the #1 worst. :-)

23 posted on 09/18/2007 12:01:22 PM PDT by lowbridge ("We control this House, not the parliamentarians!” -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
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To: lowbridge

Pinging anyone from Massachusetts, who can give each of you very vigorous competition.. ;-)


24 posted on 09/18/2007 12:02:42 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: Badeye
No surprise here, and I always said Arnold was the only kind of Republican (RINO) that could win in Kalifornia.

Wrong. Arnold won in CALIFORNIA because he sold himself as a FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, not a RINO.

Had he not lied and obfuscated his true liberal intentions, he would have lost. Those who vociferously supported him are now calling him a liar. Had they wanted a RINO, they would be applauding his efforts.

25 posted on 09/18/2007 12:03:25 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: potlatch; bill1952


26 posted on 09/18/2007 12:04:09 PM PDT by devolve ( ------- ---When fiction becomes reality things get wet--)
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To: Badeye

Thanx, I try, but with all the BS out there, it is difficult keeping a smile on my mug.

I am in good humor today, having just watched the video of the guy getting tasered at the John Kerry event...


27 posted on 09/18/2007 12:04:35 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: lowbridge

Hey, when your number two, you try harder....and smell worse.


28 posted on 09/18/2007 12:04:42 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: calcowgirl

No surprise here, and I always said Arnold was the only kind of Republican (RINO) that could win in Kalifornia.
Wrong. Arnold won in CALIFORNIA because he sold himself as a FISCAL CONSERVATIVE, not a RINO.

Had he not lied and obfuscated his true liberal intentions, he would have lost. Those who vociferously supported him are now calling him a liar. Had they wanted a RINO, they would be applauding his efforts.

Hmmmm. I’d say he changed after getting his butt kicked politically on those three propositions he campaigned for.

Bottom line is your state can’t right itself with the majority on the ‘left’ side of your ‘boat’.


29 posted on 09/18/2007 12:07:43 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye

I have relatives in Ohio and they arn’t happy with their blue state.
Ohio, RINO’s Lib Dems and corruption.

I have been to Ohio and if you like arm pits, rust belts,
and hicks, that is the place.

San Diego is the largest city in the U.S. with a Republican Mayor. 3 of our 5 congressmen are Republicans including Duncan Hunter.


30 posted on 09/18/2007 12:08:15 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: ElkGroveDan
If you spent one month here you’d never leave.

I spent the first 12 years of my life followed by another 13 years of adult life there (out of 40 at the time).

I ran out of there screaming a year ago. Crime, illegals, taxes, overcrowding, insane real estate prices, shall I go on?

Sunny weather might be enough for you, but some of us need a bit more quality of life than that.
31 posted on 09/18/2007 12:10:41 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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To: SoCalPol

‘I have relatives in Ohio and they arn’t happy with their blue state.
Ohio, RINO’s Lib Dems and corruption.’

No denying this one at all, I’ve noted the same in this and other forums repeatedly.

“I have been to Ohio and if you like arm pits, rust belts,
and hicks, that is the place.’

Okay, I’ll ‘play’...(chuckle)

I have been to Kalifornia and if you like HAIRY ARM PITS ON WOMEN, Spandex Belts on Men, and Gays, that is the place.

Checkmate.


32 posted on 09/18/2007 12:11:22 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: ElkGroveDan

When you compromise and elect big government statists with an R next to their name, why are you surprised when you get a big government statist with an R next their name? Remember that this time around in the Presidential election.


33 posted on 09/18/2007 12:12:13 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Badeye
Hmmmm. I’d say he changed after getting his butt kicked politically on those three propositions he campaigned for.

Then you haven't examined the record close enough. He has been governing as a LIBERAL since long before his propositions failed--and the proposition that he tried to sell as a "spending cap" was anything but (it just authorized more borrowing).

Bottom line is your state can’t right itself with the majority on the ‘left’ side of your ‘boat’.

Bottom line--our state can't "right itself" if out-of-staters and Rockefeller Republicans jump on the "Best you can do" bandwagon and help sell the electorate on the likes of Schwarzenegger.

BTW, the distribution of registered voters between left and right is not much different than it was when we elected Reagan (R), Deukmejian (R), and Wilson (R). So much for that theory.

34 posted on 09/18/2007 12:13:52 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: ElkGroveDan
You were fooled, huh Jon? Now you see the light. I saw the light last year and did not vote to re-elect him. I felt used after I voted for him the first time. I did not repeat that mistake again. Of course Red Arnold IS a liberal! That has been apparent for any one with brains who cared to look at his record. ArnoldCare is simply HillaryCare TM. The label is different but the approach is the same - the government forces us take health care on its own terms. I no longer live in California but I marvel at how many people were fooled for so long by the action superstar.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

35 posted on 09/18/2007 12:14:37 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Badeye
I have been to Kalifornia and if you like HAIRY ARM PITS ON WOMEN, Spandex Belts on Men, and Gays, that is the place.

Do tell! What part of Kalifornia California do you choose to hang out in? And WHY?

36 posted on 09/18/2007 12:15:59 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: dashing doofus

“I really thought this is a guy who is NOT a career politician, and would stand behind his principals”

The pattern for Arnold is clear.
Personal success in all things Arnold.
His principals went out the door after the special election for all his propositions was such a disaster.

He is a huge disppointment in his caving in after that.

The choice we know now was jumping off a cliff with democrats or walking off the cliff with what morphed into a major rino.

Hopefully the next Governor will be an actual republican.
I have hope that if anything Arnold removed some of the fear Californians seem to have for voting for a republican in this state for a Governor, even if Arnold is a rino, it may help the next guy win.


37 posted on 09/18/2007 12:16:22 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: calcowgirl

All I can say is good luck to you in your efforts. I don’t see it, given your state is a magnet for the left of the political spectrum...but I hope you can in fact ‘right’ the state.


38 posted on 09/18/2007 12:18:13 PM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Badeye

and Gays, that is the place.

Don’t care for their life style but know many who are republican and also in the military.


39 posted on 09/18/2007 12:19:26 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: Badeye
FYI
California - Voter Registration for Gubernatorial races:

   Year     Democrat   Republican    Other      Total
   1966      56.6%       40.2%        3.2%     100.0%     Reagan         (R)
   1970      54.9%       39.8%        5.2%     100.0%     Reagan         (R)
   1974      56.6%       36.0%        7.4%     100.0%     Brown          (D)
   1978      56.6%       34.2%        9.2%     100.0%     Brown          (D)
   1982      53.2%       34.9%       11.9%     100.0%     Deukmejian     (R)
   1986      50.8%       38.3%       10.9%     100.0%     Deukmejian     (R)
   1990      49.5%       39.3%       11.2%     100.0%     Wilson         (R)
   1994      49.0%       37.2%       13.8%     100.0%     Wilson         (R)
   1998      46.7%       35.5%       17.8%     100.0%     Davis          (D)
   2002      44.6%       35.2%       20.2%     100.0%     Davis          (D)
   2003      43.7%       35.3%       21.0%     100.0%     Schwarzenegger (R)
   2006      42.7%       34.4%       22.9%     100.0%     Schwarzenegger (R)

40 posted on 09/18/2007 12:19:28 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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