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GIULIANI TO WOO NRA (gun-grabber tells NRA he's "changed")
NY POST ^ | Sept 18, 2007 | CARL CAMPANILE

Posted on 09/18/2007 4:49:35 AM PDT by Liz

Rudy Giuliani, an ardent gun-control advocate as mayor, will address the NRA Friday.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; autocrat; banglist; ferret; giuliani; gungrabber; gunvote; liberalgiuliani; liberalrudy; nra; rinogiuliani; rinorudy; rudy; rudyonguns; stoprudy2008
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To: Liz

I will not vote for Guiliani in the primaries. If he wins the GOP nomination I will probably vote Democrat, as at least that way I’ll expect the subsequent loss of gun rights.


81 posted on 09/18/2007 8:39:50 AM PDT by gieriscm
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To: DCPatriot
It is possible that the NRA would endorse Giuliani.

After being a member since the late 1960s I finally gave up on the NRA and as of July I have been an ex-member. When a paid NRA phone canvasser tried to convince me that I should continue my membership because the NRA always acts in the best interests of all lawful gun owners, I asked why it supports the abominable anti-gun bill that is being backed by both NJ's virulently anti-gun Senator Lautenberg and the NRA, two strange bedfellows if ever there were two. His lame explanation that the bill would somehow work to the benefit of all gun owners if it becomes law was not convincing to say the least. The NRA's support for another gun law on top of the vast number of useless gun laws already on the books wasn't necessarily the last straw for me, but it sure contributed to the load.

82 posted on 09/18/2007 8:49:11 AM PDT by epow (Why is "abbreviation" such a long word?)
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To: TLI

The ONLY way I would EVER vote for this guy is if Hillery is the other choice.


83 posted on 09/18/2007 8:53:00 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: TLI

Giuliani = LSoS


84 posted on 09/18/2007 9:03:59 AM PDT by Noumenon (Radical Islam will kill you. "Moderate" Islam will just stand by and let it happen.)
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To: A. Patriot
The ONLY way I would EVER vote for this guy is if Hillery is the other choice.

I won't even do that.

I fully realize that Hillary as president would be a national disaster of the first magnitude, but I won't vote for any pro-abortion candidate for any office. I promised that to God and myself many years ago and I will stand by my promise.

I will vote for my GOP Senator and Congressman and the minor party candidate who best represents my views and positions, and I won't feel irresponsible by not voting against Hilary because my one vote will have no, nada, zilch impact on the outcome of the presidential election one way or the other.

85 posted on 09/18/2007 9:06:38 AM PDT by epow (Why is "abbreviation" such a long word?)
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To: epow
"...and I won't feel irresponsible by not voting against Hilary because my one vote will have no, nada, zilch impact on the outcome of the presidential election one way or the other.

...Especially if you reside in the Peoples Republic of Maryland.

86 posted on 09/18/2007 9:32:22 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Dante3
Rudy is a sneaky one, good at double-talk, full of sound-bites to adjust to difference audiences. I do not trust him.

He is the Bill Clinton of the GOP.

87 posted on 09/18/2007 9:54:07 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: A. Patriot
The ONLY way I would EVER vote for this guy is if Hillery is the other choice.

Which would be a mistake because Giuliani would do more damage than Hillary and his election would prevent a conservative from reaching the White House for eight years.

88 posted on 09/18/2007 9:58:31 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Liz
A lot of us have found Rudy's position on the 2nd Amendment to be a show-stopper all by itself. What he's acted on is the "old" Rudy's position and New York City's anti-firearms policies are today as they are because of it. Has he acted on the "new" position by undoing the damage? Or in any other way? He has not. And so this "change" is a change in talk, not in action. BJ Clinton was a master of it.

The other problem is there's no guarantee whatever that a fellow who "changes" in order to become elected won't "change" back again once he is in office. I'm perfectly willing to be convinced, however - all Rudy has to do is to work equally and achieve equally for the Second Amendment as he has against it. Too bad that'll take a few years. Whose fault is that?

89 posted on 09/18/2007 10:13:25 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rrrod

Well, the timing of this announcement could have been better if they’d have waited till a really bad blizzard hit somewhere back up in the Northeast early next year...

He could have coupled this bull-butter announcement with a whole “What Global Warming problem?” statement...

The primaries are really going to be neat to watch this election cycle...


90 posted on 09/18/2007 10:38:07 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Ol' Sparky; epow
I respect what both you and epow have said, but I believe that Hillery will damage the nation irreparably with a Democratic House and Senate to aid and abet her.

If the Democrat was just your garden variety, left of center Democrat, I may agree with both of you. But Hitlery is a devout socialist and would be effective in implementing her agenda.

91 posted on 09/18/2007 10:48:06 AM PDT by A. Patriot (CZ 52's ROCK)
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To: epow

Well I assume you are antiabortion because all life is sacred and should be protected

That holds true for the unborn

BUT it also holds true for the born whom therefore have the right to SELF protection . And that is one reason for the right of gun ownership

You should therefore be against any candidate that is against private gun ownership as much as for abortion

Just look at the abortion loving politicians and you will also find an anti gun ownership one


92 posted on 09/18/2007 10:50:15 AM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: A. Patriot
But Hitlery is a devout socialist and would be effective in implementing her agenda.

Including corrupting the DOJ , ruining the military and firmly entrenching even greater vote fraud
93 posted on 09/18/2007 10:52:15 AM PDT by uncbob (m first)
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To: A. Patriot
Hillary won't be able to do anything legislatively so long as the Republicans have the votes to filibuster her. I would also expect Republicans to gain a large number of seats if she reaches office, just as they did when Bill Clinton was President.

If Giuliani reaches office, there will be no stopping any liberal agenda he would push through as Republicans aren't going to stop the President of their own party from trying to pass it. Plus, a Giuliani Presidency will guarantee loses for the GOP in Congress and likely result in social conservatives in the social flocking back to the Democratic party.

94 posted on 09/18/2007 10:52:53 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Liz
Say nothing else:
95 posted on 09/18/2007 11:02:37 AM PDT by Big Mack (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain TO EAT VEGETABLES!)
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To: Billthedrill
A lot of us have found Rudy's position on the 2nd
Amendment to be a show-stopper all by itself.

Rooty is glad you consider him a "showstopper."

" Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk,
I'm a woman's man, no time to talk. Music loud and women warm.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, Stayin' alive. Stayin' alive. Ah, ha, ha, ha, Stayin' alive.

Feel the city breakin' And ev'rybody shakin' And we're stayin' alive,
stayin' alive.Ah, ha, ha, ha, Stayin' alive. Stayin' alive. Ah, ha, ha, ha, Stayin' alive.

Life goin' nowhere. Somebody help me. Somebody help me, yeah. Life goin'
nowhere. Somebody help me, yeah.Ah, ha, ha, ha, Stayin' alive. Stayin' alive. Ah, ha, ha, ha, Stayin' alive."

96 posted on 09/18/2007 11:17:26 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns, or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Big Mack

97 posted on 09/18/2007 11:22:50 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns, or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: TLI
He now says he supports the Second Amendment and believes gun laws should be addressed by the states.

I see Rudy still doesn't get it. The Second Amendment, like the First, is NOT subject to 50 different interpretations and 50 sets of laws.

98 posted on 09/18/2007 11:43:52 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Liz
He's a politician seeking to be elected. He'll say anything to get your vote. Changed? I don't buy it. His prior behavior speaks volumes.
99 posted on 09/18/2007 11:47:21 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: SmoothTalker
I love election year changes of heart. Really I do.

Right up there with death bed conversions and confessions.

100 posted on 09/18/2007 11:49:53 AM PDT by Myrddin
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