Posted on 09/17/2007 7:29:09 AM PDT by presidio9
Gay rights advocates expect Congress will soon move closer to approving a federal ban on job discrimination against gay, lesbian and transgender workers. Rep. Barney Frank, a leading proponent, predicts the ban will win House approval in coming weeks.
But he and other gay rights supporters are less optimistic about the fight ahead in the narrowly divided Senate, where they would need 60 votes rather than a simple majority to overcome anticipated GOP stall tactics, such as a filibuster.
"You don't know if anything can pass the Senate," said Frank, D-Mass., one of two openly gay members of Congress. "No predictions are possible about the Senate."
Conservative activists, too, are bracing for a Senate showdown.
"We know it's going to be very close," said Matt Barber, policy director for cultural issues for Concerned Women for America.
It is legal for employers in 31 states to fire someone for being gay, the ban's supporters said.
The Employment Non-Discrimination Act would make it illegal for employers to make decisions about hiring, firing, promoting or paying an employee based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Churches and the military would be exempt.
Federal law bans job discrimination based on factors such as race, gender and religion. Nineteen states and the District of Columbia have laws against sexual orientation discrimination.
Ban opponents say it could undermine the rights of people who oppose homosexuality for religious reasons.
"It would force Christian, Jewish, Muslim business owners to leave their faith at the workplace door," Barber said.
Critics say gay rights advocates are exaggerating the extent of anti-gay discrimination in hopes of boosting their political agenda.
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Special Rights for me - nothing for you...
“to overcome anticipated GOP stall tactics, such as a filibuster”, when the dems were the minority the AP loved the “judicial” use of these techniques
Meanwhile, the most vulerable human beings on the planet continue to have zero rights whatsoever, in defference to the convenience of their mothers (who vote overwhelmingly Democrat).
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“Special Rights for me - nothing for you...”
Homosexuals as a group make more money and have more assets than the general population.
Tell me again why they need this? Probably for the same reasons we need “hate crimes” legislation to protect those who actually DO the vast majority of interracial crime.
So they can legally force churches to hire them, to better subvert the last institutions that dare to stand up to them.
Don't look back.
I’m sorry but some mentally ill guy applies for a job with me and shows up sporting a dress for his interview... I ain’t hiring him, I don’t care what the law says.
“Critics say gay rights advocates are exaggerating the extent of anti-gay discrimination in hopes of boosting their political agenda.”
Gee, ya think? My objections have always been the same: can we just leave off with Too Much Information about [anyone at all’s] sexual proclivities or lack thereof?
What about the rights of the nongay??? How comfortable would you be going to the men’s room with your openly gay coworker? If it’s so harmless, someone needs to tell Craig et al...
Nailed it!
And they need this why? I know a few homosexuals and none of them have ever been discriminated against in the job arena and actually are all pretty well off.
That being said a business should be allowed to hire whoever they think best suits their needs and fits in their corporate environment. I have interviewed for many jobs in my life and obviously not always been hired. I have no doubt that the reason for that is I was either not qualified, didn’t fit the corporate culture or maybe the interview just didn’t like my cologne, I don’t know. Unless the interviewer actually tells you were not hired because they find your perverted lifestyle unbecoming how would you know you weren’t hired because you were homosexual? I think most companies hire the best person for the job regardless of what they do in the private life(unless you are a smoker or obese and then all bets are off).
I actually worked at an office once where they hired a Chippendale guy for one of the women on her birthday. When the guys was done and went into the bathroom to get dressed our one openly homosexual employee followed him into the bathroom a propositioned him. The dancer was very upset and reported it to our boss, who being very PC blew him off(is that a bad choice of words?). I am sure if I done the same to a female dancer (who would probably not have been allowed in the building in the first place) I would have been fired on the spot.
[/giggling about your choice of words question] ;o)
I really wish all the hedonisitic schlubs of the world would have their own [everything] and just not let that bleed into the [big word here, full of meaning] CULTURE in any given locale, ya know?
Golly, can’t people compliment one another without coming on? Makes one wonder how people like this get through the day, with one hand tied to [...]???
You really made me think. Those dancers are very well paid but I don’t blame the guy for being angry about it.
Okay, so how does an employer know an applicant is Gay? Is there a test? Those who wear the sexuality on their sleeve have another agenda. The cross dresser that worked here would start every technical question with a “I know you hate me” pronouncement which I would ignore. No one else in the company would fall for it either, so he left to look for a more Gay friendly company. He didn’t get to file his lawsuit.
“I aint hiring him, I dont care what the law says.”
That would not be a problem. Hire him though, and the next day he shows up in a dress and you are stuck with him.
Nope, I’d fire him just as quick.... let him sue... I’ll close the company down, start a new LLC, divest the assets, and he’ll be left suing a non entity.
[”It would force Christian, Jewish, Muslim business owners to leave their faith at the workplace door,” Barber said.]
Natural Law does not stop at the workplace door.
Geez. Everybody’s a freakin’ protected class. If this passes, I’m just gonna stop taking chances on hiring effeminate guys, because if they turn out to be lousy, it’s gonna be hell to get rid of them. That’s a shame, really, because I’ve worked with some really exceptional gay people. But the policies that are put in place to avoid lawsuits from protected classes are so arduous that I’d rather hire someone with a mediocre track record than take my chances on someone who lacks experience but otherwise appears to be a star. It’s easier to not hire than it is to fire. Fine. Maybe they’ll stop lisping and acting like girls.
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