Posted on 09/13/2007 12:44:26 PM PDT by SkyPilot
NEW YORK (Reuters) - An ad criticizing the top U.S. general in Iraq raised charges on Thursday that The New York Times slashed its advertising rates for political reasons -- an accusation denied by the paper.
The ad by liberal anti-war group moveon.org ran on Monday, the day of Gen. David Petraeus' testimony to Congress about the war and how long U.S. forces will stay in Iraq.
Moveon.org confirmed it paid $65,000 for the full page ad headlined "General Petraeus or General Betray Us."
U.S. Army General David Petraeus, the top commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, speaks to reporters during a news conference on his report of progress in Iraq, in Washington September 12, 2007. An ad criticizing the top U.S. general in Iraq raised charges on Thursday that The New York Times slashed its advertising rates for political reasons -- an accusation denied by the paper.
The New York Post ran a story on Thursday asking why the basic rate of $181,692 for such an ad was discounted.
"Times Gives Lefties a Hefty Discount for 'Betray Us' Ad," was the headline in the Post, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp.
Times spokeswoman Catherine Mathis denied the rate charged indicated a political bias and said it was the paper's policy not to disclose the rate paid by any advertiser.
"We do not distinguish the advertising rates based on the political content of the ad," Mathis told Reuters.
"The advertising folks did not see the content of the ad before the rate was quoted," she said, adding that there were over 30 different categories of ads with varying rates.
Mathis confirmed the open rate for an ad of that size and type was around $181,000. Among reasons for lower rates are advertisers buying in bulk or taking a standby rate, she said.
"There are many instances when we have published opinion advertisements that run counter to the stance we take on our own editorial pages," she said.
The ad in the main news section of the Times accused Petraeus of "cooking the books for the White House."
It angered Republicans, including Rep. Duncan Hunter of California, a presidential candidate who brought it to the Petraeus hearing on Monday and waved the ad in the air, telling lawmakers he was "irritated" by it and other criticism by Democrats.
Jeff Jarvis, a journalism professor who blogs on media at buzzmachine.com, said the key question for the Times was could any other political or advocacy group get the same rate under the same circumstances.
"The quandary the Times gets stuck in is they don't want to admit you can buy an ad for that rate, no matter who you are," Jarvis said, noting that with print advertising revenues in decline newspapers generally did offer big discounts.
On a more general note, Jarvis said U.S. papers should emulate their counterparts in Britain where, for example, The Guardian makes no effort to hide its liberal stance.
"In the U.S., I would argue newspapers should be more transparent and open about the views taken ... and the (New York) Times is liberal," he said.
Even if they charged normal rates, it’s still all in the family.
The sad part is that this will not matter one whit to most dems.
Lord, I hope the Slimes feels the heat more than ever for their biased despicable practices.
They didn't know it was from MOVE-ON, either, I bet.
Yeah, right.
Didn't have to, they knew it was from MoveOn.org and was anti-America crap. I guess it just saved the New York Times the trouble of writing a front page story.
Iraqi Information Minister redux.
“The advertising folks did not see the content of the ad before the rate was quoted,”
Bull ca-ca!
There are some Class B stockholders who would disagree, I think. If the story pans out, they will demand that the family compensate the Times for the cost of their political subsidy, I suspect.
It’s a twofer!
They get to print ugly, libelous anti-american slime without having to worry about getting sued, and they get paid for it too!
“and the (New York) Times is liberal...”
They’ve never denied that. In fact, they pretty much admit it, and lament the fact that the rest of us aren’t like them.
Gotta give a nod to Guiliani’s approach to this. I won’t vote for him in 08, but I do like his stance.
The Times’ ad was one small part of the depressing spectacle put on by the Left, including the Democratic Party. If they were capable of shame, they’d blush.
The NYT is effectively paying for half of the ad. They're partners with the ad's creators, no matter how they try to spin it.
“The sad part is that this will not matter one whit to most dems.”
The Dems have ceased to matter to me at all.
Come out of the closet, Slimes. Everyone knows it, it’s OK, just admit it...
That’s ok... it’s the moderates that we want to stand and take notice.
The libs are too retarded to actually change their stripes.
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