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Grass must be green, HOA decrees
News & Observer ^ | 9/13/07 | Sam LaGrone

Posted on 09/13/2007 10:12:30 AM PDT by Millee

Amid record drought and heat that have pushed Raleigh into severe water conservation measures, residents of the Margot's Pond community off Ligon Mill Road have been told by their homeowners association to keep the grass green.

"While the Board is aware of the inconvenience presented by the heat and water restrictions, we believe that having neatly landscaped lawns of grass is of the utmost importance to our community," said a letter sent to the homeowners in August.

Local homeowners associations are loosening restrictive covenants requiring green grass and manicured lawns. But the Margot's Pond association is not giving residents a break -- and it's causing dissension among some members.

In a letter Aug. 16, Talis Management Group, which carries out the policies of the Margot's Pond HOA, required the homeowners to have:

* Healthy grass free of brown patches and weeds.

* Living trees with mulch.

* Planter beds with living shrubs and flowers.

The letter gave an October deadline to meet the HOA standards. Violators would be subject to fines or "self-help" -- a landscape company would fix the violations; the homeowner would get the bill.

Vann Holland, a member of the Margot's Pond landscaping committee, thought the requirements were too stringent. In an interview with WTVD last week, she asked the HOA to "give the homeowners a break."

Talis promised to send a letter giving homeowners more time, Holland told The News & Observer. So far no one has seen it. "If anything," Holland said, "they've gotten more and more aggressive."

Two days after the television interview, the HOA board removed her from the landscape committee.

"No board member is authorized to make statements without the board's approval," said Margot's Pond HOA president Dave Sroelov.

After the Thursday meeting, members of the HOA board said the Aug. 16 letter was sent before Raleigh instituted one-day watering restrictions.

Calling the timing, "unfortunate," board member Bill Casey said the October deadline was still in effect, but could be changed. "We're open to that possibility based on future rain or water restrictions," he said.

Board members would not comment on Holland's removal.

Betsy Poole, 75, Holland's mother, was among several homeowners to be served with "self-help." It's not clear to her why she got orders before the October deadline.

"It's hard to consider doing any landscaping with the water restrictions," Poole said.

Casey said "self-help" work performed recently had nothing to do with the Aug. 16 letter and stemmed from existing yard problems.

Some other communities subject to water restrictions have taken a more lenient approach.

In the River Ridge Golf Community in Raleigh, Ed Thomas, president of the homeowners association board, has been playing the role of friendly water cop. The Old River Ridge Homeowners Association has appearance standards for lawns and shrubs, but Thomas, 62, said he draws the line at nagging people about their lawns in a drought.

"We haven't even vaguely considered that," Thomas said. "My guess is half the lawns in our neighborhood are browned out."

In Cary, where mandatory water restrictions have been in place since 2000, some communities are getting creative. Marie Cefalo, the town's water conservation coordinator, said the Carramore subdivision has installed mostly warm season grass, which is more drought-resistant.

Management companies hired to handle the administrative duties of HOA boards said they're advising clients to be flexible with landscaping rules.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bermudagrass; drought; greengrass; hoa; lawncare; lawns; tallfescue; waterstress
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More nonesense from another HOA.
1 posted on 09/13/2007 10:12:31 AM PDT by Millee
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To: Millee
nonesense = nonsense. (darn fingers!)
2 posted on 09/13/2007 10:13:07 AM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: Millee

Some enterprising person should paint his lawn green.


3 posted on 09/13/2007 10:14:31 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Millee

And then, in the winter, won’t the grass turn brown as it goes dormant? Not familiar with NC weather, but thought that might happen.

And God forbid they get snow, you won’t see their green grass.


4 posted on 09/13/2007 10:15:33 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Millee

What a shocker.

If you moved into a neighborhood with a HOA, you asked for it.


5 posted on 09/13/2007 10:16:46 AM PDT by JerriBlank
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To: Millee

How do you know that someone is a liberal, usually a Democrat?

By nonsense like this. Afterall “the Party Committee” has spoken. You must comply.


6 posted on 09/13/2007 10:17:07 AM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Millee
Watch it, you will get a "self-help" bill if I have to spell check your posts.

What a bunch of nimrods ... the homeowners need to take back control from a rogue board.

7 posted on 09/13/2007 10:17:33 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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To: Millee

Easy fix - paint the grass.

See what they do after that!


8 posted on 09/13/2007 10:19:06 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and take it.)
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To: Millee

No way I would live like that.


9 posted on 09/13/2007 10:19:40 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Once our lawn froze while it was still very green. Stayed that way a long time, although it wasn’t growing.
10 posted on 09/13/2007 10:20:35 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: NonValueAdded

In Virginia there are laws on the books which forbid HOA regs from directly or indirectly contridicting state and county ordinances. Someone would have a very good case to make, if the same is true in NC, that asking residents to violate water restrictions is in violation of local laws and therefore invalid.


11 posted on 09/13/2007 10:20:44 AM PDT by brothers4thID (FDT: "Every notice that while our problems are getting bigger, our politicians are getting smaller?")
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To: Millee
"While the Board is aware of the inconvenience presented by the heat and water restrictions, we believe that having neatly landscaped lawns of grass is of the utmost importance to our community," said a letter sent to the homeowners in August. This sounds like a scene from "Pleasantville". I'd be planting cactus since they have flowers, and for the fun of it. But there are plenty of low water plants available. As for the brown spots...spray paint is a nifty alternative.
12 posted on 09/13/2007 10:21:12 AM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Millee

Homeowners should revolt and vote the idiots out of office. Problem fixed.


13 posted on 09/13/2007 10:21:19 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Millee
If water is a problem, HOA association could require home owners to install a cistern to collect the rainwater what runs off the roof when it rains. I can remeber when most farm homes had a holding tank as a feature.
14 posted on 09/13/2007 10:23:03 AM PDT by oyez (Justa' another high minded lowlife.)
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To: Millee
From Atlas Shrugged:

“Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against - then you’ll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We’re after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you’d better get wise to it. There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now, that’s the system, Mr. Rearden, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.”

15 posted on 09/13/2007 10:23:04 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Millee

HOAs—— a little piece of Nazi Germany right here in the good olde USA!


16 posted on 09/13/2007 10:23:23 AM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: Red6

Then they might get after you if you use spray paint, then they will say it is polluting the environment. So you would have to paint it using bio-degradible carbon neutral products of some kind.


17 posted on 09/13/2007 10:23:31 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Millee
There are times when I am devoutly grateful for living in a rural area with no zoning or homeowner associations.

Carolyn

18 posted on 09/13/2007 10:23:44 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Millee

Simple, just plant Brady Bunch grass.


19 posted on 09/13/2007 10:24:01 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: NonValueAdded
Those who live in a community covered by an HOA should look at the incorporation documents of the HOA and the filing of same.

Many HOAs have defective incorporation documents and/or filing deficiencies.

If you find such imperfections in those areas you can have a ball suing the daylights out of them and pocketing some change as well.

Have some fun !!

20 posted on 09/13/2007 10:24:08 AM PDT by Hornet19 (It's Time to Put Up or Shut Up...Where Do You Stand?)
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