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Disappointed Democrats Map Withdrawal Strategy
NY Slimes ^ | 13 Sep 07 | CARL HULSE

Posted on 09/13/2007 9:00:41 AM PDT by SkyPilot

WASHINGTON, Sept. 12 — Senate Democratic leaders on Wednesday called the administration’s plan to keep 130,000 or more troops in Iraq through mid-2008 unacceptable and promised to challenge the approach through legislation next week.

Several proposals were being weighed, including one requiring the American military role to be shifted more to training and counterterrorism, in order to reduce the force by more than President Bush is expected to promise on Thursday. Another would guarantee troops longer respites from the battlefield, effectively cutting the numbers available for combat.

Even if those proposals draw the 60 votes needed to overcome a Senate filibuster — a level that has eluded Democrats this year — any real strictures on the president would face a veto, frustrating war critics and raising the prospect that roughly as many American troops might be in Iraq a year from now as were there a year ago.

Still, the Democrats tried to get ahead of President Bush’s planned speech on Iraq on Thursday night, and to press what they see as a political advantage in opposing the war in the months before the 2008 elections.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; defeatists; democrats; patraeusreport; reid; troops; war
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Beyond 2008 means they would have to deal with the war if they won. Also, not getting their way means Move-On.org will be angry with them.

I can see why they are not happy campers.

1 posted on 09/13/2007 9:00:41 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Elect Hillary, lose the war, let her explain it.

Better Fred than Red.


2 posted on 09/13/2007 9:03:18 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: SkyPilot

3 posted on 09/13/2007 9:04:21 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (If you can't say something intelligent, don't say anything at all. Congress goes silent...)
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let her explain it.

You know what she'll say...Bush's fault
4 posted on 09/13/2007 9:05:09 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (If you can't say something intelligent, don't say anything at all. Congress goes silent...)
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Also, not getting their way means Move-On.org will be angry with them....also angry with them, the NYTs.

ED Hill just had a report on showing that the NYTs gave a whooping 64% discount to moveon.org for it's slanderous ad assaulting General Petraus on Monday.

5 posted on 09/13/2007 9:06:14 AM PDT by top 2 toe red (~*~ All we have to do is save the Cheerleader?!?!? ~*~)
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the problems Democrats are having finding a way to take on the president that unites their party and avoids criticism that they are weak on national security

How about the concept of WINNING by completing the stabilization of Iraq and Afghanistan, so as to establish non-terrorist-supporting democracies in the middle east? The dems ARE weak on national security, and their continued floundering around for a way to lose just proves it.

6 posted on 09/13/2007 9:08:08 AM PDT by hsalaw
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The libs are desperate to withdraw the troops prior to the election. They know withdrawing the troops will result in a bloodbath and a defeat for the U.S. Then they can use this defeat against the GOP.

But, if they win in 2008 and THEN the troops are withdrawn, THEY will be blamed for the defeat.

They’re in a real quandary.

7 posted on 09/13/2007 9:14:26 AM PDT by Signalman
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Elect Hillary, lose the war, let her explain it.

That'll be easy for her: "Bush lost the war. All we can do is try to clean up his mistakes. We worked harder than we've ever worked before to try and save our troops, but General Betrayus and Bush have made it impossible to do that the way we would have wanted. And blah, blah, blah . . ."

8 posted on 09/13/2007 9:14:53 AM PDT by Maceman ("If your enemy is angry, irritate him." -- Sun Tzu)
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To: SkyPilot

Good, let them withdraw to Canada.


9 posted on 09/13/2007 9:35:10 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Fred Dalton Thompson for President)
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It’s not their role to do this sort of thing.


10 posted on 09/13/2007 9:36:59 AM PDT by freepertoo
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;o)
11 posted on 09/13/2007 9:38:59 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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The Democrats need to map out a strategy to withdraw their heads from their asses.


12 posted on 09/13/2007 9:39:56 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedoms.)
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I think we SHOULD withdraw from Iraq

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points to tagline


13 posted on 09/13/2007 9:53:20 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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Won’t work, as soon as she makes a move, it will be all her war. What do you think they are scared of now?

Today the newspapers are full of the dimms saying to Petraeus, it’s his war now. Works both ways.


14 posted on 09/13/2007 10:06:05 AM PDT by Tarpon
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If those murderous thugs get back into office, I don’t know what I’ll do.

I don’t know why #43 doesn’t just loudly - and pointedly, with ALL the press there - say, “take over, then. You’re so convinced this is way to go, put your money where your mouth is.”


15 posted on 09/13/2007 10:33:32 AM PDT by Froufrou
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"Even if those proposals draw the 60 votes needed to overcome a Senate filibuster — a level that has eluded Democrats this year — any real strictures on the president would face a veto,"


16 posted on 09/13/2007 10:38:55 AM PDT by avacado
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They’re surrendering Congress before the election???


17 posted on 09/13/2007 10:49:39 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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They're just making noise. Trying to interfere with the Commander In Chief's prerogatives will draw a swift veto.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 09/13/2007 10:55:42 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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19 posted on 09/13/2007 10:58:30 AM PDT by Gritty (I do not consider Iraq to be a war to win, but a situation to manage - Nancy Pelosi)
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This daily search for a new strategy by the Legislative Branch to force the Executive Branch to do their bidding is hilarious. All they can really do is to de-fund the war and they know that’s political suicide and aren’t about to do it. So every day there’s a new stategy floated that goes nowhere. As the irresponsible seek to evade their duty the responsible go about doing theirs.


20 posted on 09/13/2007 11:31:55 AM PDT by vigilence
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