Posted on 09/12/2007 8:20:27 AM PDT by SubGeniusX
A car-mounted video camera — more commonly used by police than against them — captured a loud and threatening confrontation in this tiny St. Louis County community that left an officer on suspension and the whole world able to listen in.
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A voice identified as Kuehnlein's can be heard taunting the driver and threatening to jail him on fabricated charges.
The tape, made late last week, was from a camera running in the vehicle Kuehnlein approached, police said.
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In the video, Kuehnlein, a St. George officer for about two years, approaches a young man who was sitting in a parked car about 2 a.m. in a commuter lot near Spokane and Reavis Barracks roads. Kuehnlein asks for identification. When Darrow asks whether he did anything wrong, the officer orders him out of the car and begins shouting.
"You want to try me? You want to try me tonight? You think you have a bad night? I will ruin your night. … Do you want to try me tonight, young boy?"
Darrow says no.
"Do you want to go to jail for some (expletive) reason I come up with?" the police officer says. Later, Darrow says, "I don't want any problems, officer."
"You're about to get it," Kuehnlein is heard saying. "You already started your (expletive) problems with your attitude."
After the officer notices the camera, he says, "I don't really care about your cameras, 'cause I'm about ready to tow your car, then we can tear 'em all apart."
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Darrow said he was not trying to entrap the officer. He said he pulled into the commuter lot to meet a friend. When the officer asked him for identification, Darrow said he didn't immediately present it because he believes the officer stopped him without probable cause.
(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...
—would be great if nationwide about one of ten vehicles was so equipped—it would have the same effect on bad cops that concealed carry permits had on crime-—
Same kid, different incident.
See my post 20.
If you look at American history you find many examples like this little snippet.
A clash between the Black Soldiers and the Houston Police Department erupted shortly thereafter that resulted in the deaths of 16 whites (5 of them police officers), Several Black Soldiers, two White Soldiers, and One Hispanic Soldier. It was only after Mayor Moody called for federal troops and Martial law declared was the riot eventually quelled.
Main article: Houston Riot (1917)
Here is one that happened at almost the same time as Kent State.
Accounts disagree as to what happened next. Some students said the police advanced in a line, warned them, then opened fire. Others said the police abruptly opened fire on the crowd and the dormitory. Other witnesses reported that the students were under the control of a campus security officer when the police opened fire. Police claimed they spotted a powder flare in the Alexander West Hall third floor stairwell window and opened fire in self-defense on the dormitory only. Two local television news reporters present at the shooting agreed that a shot was fired, but were uncertain of the direction. A radio reporter claimed to have seen an arm and a pistol extending from a dormitory window.
Whatever actually occurred, the police opened fire at approximately 12:05 a.m., May 15, and continued firing for more than 30 seconds. The students scattered, some running for the trees in front of the library, but most scrambling for the Alexander Hall west end door.
There was screaming and cries of terror and pain mingled with the noise of sustained gunfire as the
students struggled en masse to get through glass double doors. A few students were trampled.
Others, struck by buckshot pellets or bullets, fell only to be dragged inside or left moaning in the grass.
When the order to cease fire was given and the gunfire ceased, Phillip Lafayette Gibbs, 21, a junior pre-law major and father of an 18-month-old son, lay dead 50 feet east of the west wing door of Alexander Hall. Two Double-0 buckshot pellets had punched into his head while a third pellet entered just beneath his left eye and a fourth just under his left armpit.
Across the street, behind the line of police and highway patrolmen, James Earl Green, 17, was sprawled dead in front of B. F. Roberts Dining Hall. Green, a senior at Jim Hill High School in Jackson, was walking home from work at a local grocery store when he stopped to watch the action. He was standing in front of B. F. Roberts Hall when a single buckshot blast slammed into the right side of his chest. The police later claimed that they had taken fire from the direction of B. F. Roberts Hall.
Twelve other Jackson State students were struck by gunfire, including at least one who was sitting in the dormitory lobby at the time of the shooting. Several students required treatment for hysteria and injuries from shattered glass. Injured and carried to University Hospital for treatment were Fonzie Coleman, Redd Wilson Jr. , Leroy Kenter, Vernon Steve Weakley, Gloria Mayhorn, Patricia Ann Sanders , Willie Woodard, Andrea Reese, Stella Spinks, Climmie Johnson, Tuwaine Davis and Lonzie Thompson.
The five-story dormitory was riddled by gunfire. FBI investigators estimated that more than 460 rounds struck the building, shattering every window facing the street on each floor. Investigators counted at least 160 bullet holes in the outer walls of the stairwell alone — bullet holes that can still be seen today.
The injured students, many of whom lay bleeding on the ground outside the dormitory, were transported to University Hospital within 20 minutes of the shooting. But the ambulances were not called until after the officers picked up their shell casings, a U. S. Senate probe conducted by Senators Walter Mondale and Birch Bayh later revealed.
“Notice I haven’t taken any side in this (yet). I’m just wondering if this is the story from this past spring..”
Nope, a different “isolated incident.”
If refusing to answer questions = interfering in an investigation AGAINST YOURSELF we might as well use recycle the Bill of Rights into boot polish applicators.
Same kid. Pulling into a "commuter parking lot" at 2am smells of a setup.
Doesn't excuse the cop's behavior but anyone thinking this was just happenstance needs to get another cup of coffee.
It's the same kid?
Cue the PA system: Crusader in aisle 7.
You’ve got to be a real brain-trust when you do something like this and you know there’s video being shot.
This kid sounds like he asked a rather simple question, but he may have been a real smart ass too. Unfortunately that probably won’t show up on the video, because he was in the car.
The officer should have sited the violation, or action he observed, and kept his cool. And then he should have written the kid up if he had grounds to do so.
Now he’s in hot water.
If there is a case for a civil rights violation, this is it. Sue the hell out of the individual officer.
Police do this everywhere. If they want to pull you over they do, say you had a broken tail light then pop it with their nightstick to make sure. If they arrest you, say goodbye to any cash you have on you and your watch if it’s a good one. Those items never make it on the inventory of your belongings.
Have you seen the video? The officer was leaving the parking lot and the kid was pulling in. The only setup was the officer deliberately turning around and and starting the situation. The officer set himself up but good.
I know. My wife lost a diamond ring to one cop and I have left good chunks of money in various small Georgia and Carolina towns........
Someone's been watching too many Patrick Swayze movies. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but you really can's make the blanket statement everywhere.
Maybe because 1) there's probably a union, and 2) because the headline oversells the evidence?
"Do you want to go to jail for some ****ing reason I come up with? "
The above doesn't specifically mean that the crime would be invented. It could well simply mean that the officer would go to the effort to charge him with any of the many little violations of law inevitibly part of life in an overly legislated country.
Nothing ever changes!
this kid is a HERO
Some laws are prosecuted. The ones that the small guy usually won’t hire a lawyer for like traffic charges etc.
And resisting arrest is the number one trump charge that can stick when nothing else will. All it takes is the word of the cop and there is little defense for the citizen without being reamed for legal fees defending bogus charges.
The sheriff of Nottingham has all authority over the subjects of the kingdom.
So.
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