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U.S. self-government is in peril (SPP Alert)
Townhall.com ^ | September 10, 2007 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 09/11/2007 5:33:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It's now leaking out that there was more going on than met the eye at the Security and Prosperity Partnership Summit in Montebello, Canada, in August. The three amigos - President George W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Mexican President Felipe Calderon - finalized and released the "North American Plan for Avian & Pandemic Influenza."

The "Plan" - that's what they call it, with a capital P - is to use the excuse of a major flu epidemic to shift powers from U.S. legislatures to unelected, unaccountable "North American" bureaucrats.

This idea was launched on Sept. 14, 2005, when Bush announced the "International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza." He was then speaking to the United Nations General Assembly.

We might have thought that idea had some merit because the influenza partnership called for "transparency in reporting of influenza cases in humans and in animals" and the "sharing of epidemiological data and samples." That's very different from the Security and Prosperity Summit, where transparency has always been conspicuously avoided like the plague.

This year's Security and Prosperity Summit in Canada morphed the Influenza Partnership into the North American Plan. Now we discover that the Plan is not only about combating a flu epidemic but is far-reaching in seeking control over U.S. citizens and public policy during an epidemic.

The Plan repeatedly features the favorite Bush word "comprehensive" - it calls for a "comprehensive, coordinated North American approach." The Plan would give authority to international bureaucrats "beyond the health sector to include a coordinated approach to critical infrastructure protection," including "border and transportation issues."

The Plan is a wordy 44-page document, much of which sounds innocuous. It is helpful to exchange information about disease and take precautions against letting foreign diseases enter the United States.

However, self-government and sovereignty are at risk when control over these matters is turned over to a newly created North American body headed by the representative of another country. It's an additional problem when the entire Plan is a spin-off of the Security and Prosperity Partnership, an arrangement created in secret solely by White House press releases, without Congressional approval or even oversight.

The 2007 Plan acknowledges that it is based not only on the Influenza Partnership, but also on the guidelines, standards and rules of the World Health Organization, the World Organization for Animal Health, the World Trade Organization, and the North American Free Trade Agreement.

The Plan sets up a "senior level coordinating body to facilitate the effective planning and preparedness within North America for a possible outbreak of avian and/or human pandemic influenza under the Security and Prosperity Partnership." The Plan identifies this Security and Prosperity Partnership coordinating body as "decision-makers."

The Plan then (ungrammatically) states: "The chair of the Security and Prosperity Partnership coordinating body will rotate between each national authority on a yearly basis." Thus, a foreigner will be the "decision maker" for Americans in two out of every three years.

What powers will this foreign-headed coordinating body exercise? The Plan suggests that these include "the use of antivirals and vaccines; ... social distancing measures, including school closures and the prohibition of community gatherings; ... isolation and quarantine."

Will this foreign-headed coordinating body respect the First Amendment "right of the people peaceably to assemble"? Or will the rules of the Plan, Security and Prosperity Partnership, World Health Organization, World Organization for Animal Health, World Trade Organization and NAFTA take precedence?

In evaluating the Plan, it is instructive to recall the Model State Emergency Health Powers Act, an anti-epidemic plan launched by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Oct. 23, 2001. Designed to be passed by all state legislatures, the model bill was primarily written by Lawrence O. Gostin, a former member of U.S. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's discredited Task Force on Health Care Reform, and was promoted by the Bush administration during its first year.

The proposed Emergency Health Powers Act would have given each governor sole discretion to declare a public health emergency and grant himself extraordinary powers. He would have been able to restrict or prohibit firearms, seize private property and destroy it in many circumstances, and impose price controls and rationing.

Governors would have been given the power to order people out of their homes and into dangerous quarantines. Children could have been taken from their parents and put into public quarantines.

Governors could even have demanded that physicians administer certain drugs despite individuals' religious or other objections. The Emergency Health Powers Act was based on the concept that decision-making by authoritarian bosses and unelected bureaucrats is the way to go in a time of crisis.

The proposed Emergency Health Powers Act roused a nationwide storm of protest because it was an unprecedented assault on the constitutional rights of U.S. citizens, as well as on the principle of limited government, and so it never passed anywhere in its original text. Will similar totalitarian notions now bypass legislatures and be forced upon us by Security and Prosperity Partnership press releases?

Phyllis Schlafly is a national leader of the pro-family movement, a nationally syndicated columnist and author of Feminist Fantasies.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
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To: AuntB; Borax Queen; Czar
And a free traitor globalist will do the 3rd year.

Oh...good point, AuntB!

21 posted on 09/12/2007 2:06:50 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This comes from Schafly? Not the type to wear the tin foil propeller beanie.

This is pretty amazing.


22 posted on 09/12/2007 2:09:24 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: BillF; texastoo
However, it would be because U.S. officials (under the type of political pressure that produced the amnesty bill) were wrongly choosing to subordinate U.S. interests to Mexico’s. It would NOT be a result of the chairman of a coordinating committee being in the hands of Mexico, contrary to Schlafly’s contention.

I beg to differ. Schlafly is not incorrect, and the previous president of Mexico, who signed the SPP, said the following:

"Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States, but also with Canada, our other regional partner, an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, with the goal of attending to future themes as important as the future prosperity of North America, and the freedom of movement of capital, goods, services and persons."

-- Vincente Fox, then President of Mexico

May 16, 2002 | Before the members of the "Club Century XXI" in the Hall Conferences of the Eurobuilding Hotel, Madrid, Spain
[full text: Spanish | English]


23 posted on 09/12/2007 2:10:35 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: RinaseaofDs; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Ms. Schlafly, as usual, has long been doing her homework on the NAU, the SPP, and the heads of the three countries, Bush, Calderon and his predecessor, and Martin, and his successor.

She's got volumes on information, accessible at Eagle Forum on the North American Union, the SPP, Globalism, and the NAFTA Corridor, among other related matters.

24 posted on 09/12/2007 2:16:21 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Get out your WD40 and spray your re-dial key. You already have the DC phone numbers in you contacts file. Let the wonderful folk that represent us that this is a NO-GO when tested with the GO-NO-GO tool on our 50 caliber truth implement..
25 posted on 09/12/2007 2:30:48 PM PDT by CHEE (You don't have to practice to be miserable.)
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To: CHEE

Not to worry....they’ll be hearing from PAHLENTY of us!


26 posted on 09/12/2007 2:35:43 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; texastoo
nicmarlo posted a quote from me following by, among other things:

I beg to differ. Schlafly is not incorrect, and the previous president of Mexico, who signed the SPP, said the following:

"Eventually, our long-range objective is to establish with the United States, but also with Canada, . . . an ensemble of connections and institutions similar to those created by the European Union, . . . " -- Vincente Fox, then President of Mexico

My comments and yours don't conflict except that you say that you "beg to differ."

The EU model is the former Mexican President's "long term objective," but he realized that the SPP does NOT implement that plan. Schlafly does NOT realize that. Or, less charitably, she is trying to mislead others about that.

It is a legitimate concern that eventually they will modify SPP to set up an EU style central governing authority on dealing with these issues (plagues, etc.), but Schlafly has overhyped this as if SPP already follows the EU model. Clearly, it doesn't.

Schlafly incorrectly writes that "a foreigner . . [will be] . . THE decision maker for Americans in two out of every three years" [emphasis added]. That's just totally bogus.

I repeat that under the current version of SPP, any failure to close the U.S. border when required by U.S. interests upon a plague occurring in Mexico "would NOT be a result of the chairman of a coordinating committee being in the hands of Mexico, contrary to Schlafly’s contention." Although failure to close might occur "because U.S. officials (under the type of political pressure that produced the amnesty bill) were wrongly choosing to subordinate U.S. interests to Mexico’s," that problem is not because of SPP.

27 posted on 09/12/2007 4:11:19 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: BillF; texastoo; Kimberly GG; WorkerbeeCitizen; potlatch; hedgetrimmer
but he realized that the SPP does NOT implement that plan.

Please document your assertions; everything I have read, and all those whom I have pinged have read, which includes, but is not restricted to, the SPP document itself, contradicts your assertions.

28 posted on 09/12/2007 4:28:00 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000

Security and Prosperity Partnership indeed!!

Nic, I have not read this thread nor all of the article so can’t make any intelligent comments.

I am highly suspicious and concerned about this so called “partnership”. Strange things are happening.

Do you recall when we had the anthrax alarm and people were told to stock up on Cipro for inhalation anthrax? My daughters and I were in Mexico last week and were asked at the border if we were bringing in any Cipro.

Very odd as you are usually able to buy drugs and get a “prescription” for a 30 day supply of almost any drug. I had two nurses in the car with me and when they asked the border patrol about it he said Cipro was not being allowed to be brought in!!

The big question is WHY!! It is an antibacterial drug.

http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/cipro/

Off topic I know, but interesting.


29 posted on 09/12/2007 5:33:34 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: Paul Ross; texastoo
Paul Ross posted, among other things:

As for BillF's argument that there is no abdication of sovereignty in the SPP, that would seem to be contradicted by the very secrecy surrounding these negotiations that never seem to have any tangible Congressional authority or work-product for the Senate to review and confirm in treaty-form.

What legal control or power did the U.S. delegate to another country? Wasn't this just an agreement have the respective countries' experts meet to consider issues such as plagues and to try to reach a consensus as to the best approach?

Even in the unlikely event that you maintain that the agreement was negotiated in secret, beyond usual security in negotiations, this doesn't confirm Schlafly's misreading of the contents of the agreement. Further, the Senate never votes on any executive agreements. Therefore, neither of these seems unusual. Certainly, neither factor is an indication as to the content of the agreement.

30 posted on 09/12/2007 5:46:28 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: potlatch; Borax Queen; Czar
I had two nurses in the car with me and when they asked the border patrol about it he said Cipro was not being allowed to be brought in!!

The big question is WHY!! It is an antibacterial drug.

Now, that is an interesting turn, is it not?!

31 posted on 09/12/2007 6:01:20 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

BTTT!


32 posted on 09/12/2007 6:21:16 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: nicmarlo; texastoo

Since the former President of Mexico made the quoted statement in 2002 (I didn’t realize the date before), his statement doesn’t show a realization about the SPP, which came later. However, Schlafly talks about a coordinating body, but then blows it out of proportion and says that a foreigner will be making decisions that legally bind Americans, as opposed to being part of a panel recommending procedures that U.S. officials have ultimate control over.

It’s not that I think that SPP is necessarily great or free of flaws. Nor do I believe that concerns over further agreements or modifications are misplaced. It’s just that Schlafly doesn’t support her overhyped claims.

For example, she wrongly said that, under SPP, “a foreigner will be THE decision maker for Americans in two out of every three years” [emphasis added].

Was Schlafly right or wrong about that? Do you believe that the chair of a committee decides for the whole committee? Thus, a Mexican chair could out-vote contrary positions of the Canadian and U.S. members of such a panel? How?

Do you have a link to the actual text of the SPP, as you’ve read it (where?)?

Would you be so kind as to point out something in there that shows a legal power (what legal power?) that is delegated to a foreigner?

What legal control or power did the U.S. delegate to another country? Wasn’t this just an agreement have the respective countries’ experts meet to consider issues such as plagues and to try to reach a consensus as to the best approach?

The SPP has been around for a while. Has a foreigner already made a decision legally binding on Americans in the U.S.? What decision?


33 posted on 09/12/2007 6:31:41 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: BillF; texastoo
It appears to me that your interest on posting about the SPP is to talk trash about conservative pro-American Phyllis Schlafly and talk up Bush and his SPP.

You still have not provided me with any evidence to contradict anything Schlafly has said, except your opinions. Sorry, but I have a ton of respect for Schlafly, don't know you from a whole in the wall, and have lost ALL respect for Bush. I stop believing anything he says shortly after he began spitting on the conservatives who got him elected.

In the meantime, as I have earlier stated, I have read voluminous documents, bills, and proposed legislation, on government websites (read that US, Canadian, and Mexican) over the years, which includes those found at the White House, the Texas Department of Transportation, the Kansas City Smart Port, NAFTA, and the Council on Foreign Relations, as well as observing Bush's actions, including his current pushing for Mexicans to drive their trucks into the US, competing against American truckers who must comply with regulations (whereas, Mexicans do not)....along with a host of other documents that Schlafly has also read.

Until you offer more than your opinions and character assassinations against Schlafly, I'm putting you into the pro NAU/CFR/NWO crowd.

In the meantime, for the lurkers' benefit, they can find out more information about the attempts to undermine American sovereignty, via the SPP, here, on Dr. Daneen Patterson's website, "Stop the North American Union" (just one of MANY articles concerning this matter):

SPP.gov Myths vs. Facts . . . the Really Big LIE!

Note, item number one on their list which states:

Myth:  The SPP was an agreement signed by Presidents Bush and his Mexican and Canadian counterparts in Waco, TX, on March 23, 2005.

Fact:  The SPP is a dialogue to increase security and enhance prosperity among the three countries.  The SPP is NOT an agreement nor is it a treaty.  In fact, no agreement was EVER signed.

Their 'fact' does not hold up under scrutiny.  It is basically a BALD-FACED LIE!  It is propaganda in its boldest form.   How do I know   Because on a Canadian government website there was a statement made and signed by Prime Minister Martin which declares the following:  "on March 23, President Bush, President Fox and I SIGNED the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that establishes the way forward on our continental agenda for security, prosperity and quality of life."

The above quote can be found on page 2 of 5.  It is the last sentence in the sub-section titled Canada in North America in a document signed by PM Paul Martin:  http://www.dfait-maeci.gc.ca/cip-pic/ips/ips-overview2-en.asp.


34 posted on 09/12/2007 7:57:33 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: potlatch

That’s very interesting, potlatch!

It doesn’t make any sense.


35 posted on 09/12/2007 10:01:40 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: dixiechick2000; devolve

It really doesn’t make any sense. Valium, pain pills, ampicillin and most meds can be brought in. Cipro is not something you would think of as being banned.


36 posted on 09/12/2007 10:06:07 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch

That was my thinking, as well.

Given their illegal drug smuggling, I’m
surprised they are worried about Cipro.


37 posted on 09/12/2007 10:10:23 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: dixiechick2000; devolve

[I’m surprised they are worried about Cipro.]

Especially since it is a great aid in case of a terroristic anthrax threat again! Puzzling


38 posted on 09/12/2007 10:12:53 PM PDT by potlatch (MIZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MIKAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_MAZARU_ooo_‹(•¿•)›_ooo_))
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To: potlatch; devolve

“Puzzling” is correct, potlatch.


39 posted on 09/12/2007 10:14:23 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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To: potlatch

40 posted on 09/12/2007 10:30:45 PM PDT by devolve ( ------- -------My liberal sister approved of this graphic!--)
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