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Clinton returns money, sets precedent (ROFL Alert! Precedent setting,, New standard, LOLOL)
AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/11/07 | Jim Kuhnhenn - ap

Posted on 09/11/2007 2:21:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - In returning $850,000 to donors associated with a disgraced fundraiser, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton sets a significant new standard for how campaigns should respond in the face of potential scandal.

Clinton's decision also underscores the price — financial and political — that her campaign is paying for failing to spot trouble with the fundraiser, Norman Hsu, even after receiving a warning. The campaign announced it would now conduct background checks on its fundraisers, an extraordinary and potentially time consuming step.

By returning the money, Clinton also puts pressure on presidential rivals and other politicians with rainmakers who have dubious pasts or who have employed questionable fundraising tactics, including the campaigns of Barack Obama and John Edwards.

Hsu, a Hong Kong native who appeared suddenly in the New York political scene about four years ago, is under guard in a Colorado hospital after failing to show up for a bail hearing last week in California. He had been wanted as a fugitive for skipping sentencing on a 1991 grand theft case to which he had pleaded no contest.

In the past two weeks, news reports raised questions about his fundraising practices and revealed his fugitive status. Law enforcement authorities said the FBI is now investigating whether Hsu paid donors to contribute to politicians. His lawyer has said Hsu did not break the law and that donors he solicited contributed their own money.

Despite his high-profile political activity, California authorities were apparently unaware of his whereabouts. And despite his abrupt entry into the circle of political money "bundlers" during the 2004 election, politicians did not inquire about his past.

"There were a few people who were scratching their heads, that he was being so generous," said John Catsimatidis, a New York businessman and longtime Clinton money man. "But he was a pleasant guy and nobody thought anything of it."

The Los Angeles Times reported Tuesday that an Irvine, Calif., businessman cautioned the Clinton campaign in June that he suspected Hsu was running an investment scam. The newspaper said the campaign's former finance director for Western states, Samantha Wolf, denied the claim and pronounced Hsu "completely legit."

Asked Tuesday what the campaign did in response to the warning, Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson said: "It prompted another search of publicly available information which did not reveal the decade-plus old warrant."

Caught flat-footed by the Hsu revelations, the Clinton camp said it will now take extra steps to examine their fundraisers, including conducting criminal background checks.

"In any instances where a source of a bundler's income is in question, the campaign will take affirmative steps to verify its origin," Wolfson said.

Larry Noble, former general counsel at the Federal Election Commission, said Clinton raised the bar on how to respond to troublesome fundraising.

"At one time the standard was if a person is convicted of a crime I'll return the money; then it was if they are indicted," Noble said. "What we're seeing now is the Clinton campaign being very proactive about trying to get out in front of what experience has shown can be a very distracting story."

Aggressive vetting of bundlers, Noble said, "is a big step because, one, it's going to take resources and, two, it may well turn off or insult some fundraisers."

With the cost of campaigns increasing exponentially, candidates are under increasing pressure to rely on fundraisers, or money "bundlers," who help solicit money on their behalf. This election, money is even more important because several presidential candidates plan to forgo public financing.

Clinton has raised $52 million from individual contributors, second only to Obama who has raised $58 million.

"A great deal of fundraising comes form people who are established, have homes, people in the community," Catsimatidis said. "I'd say 99.9 percent. But there is that oddball that occurs once in a while. It happens and one has to be on the watch for that."

Last month, lawyer Geoffrey Fieger, who represented assisted suicide advocate Jack Kevorkian, was indicted on charges of conspiring to make more than $125,000 in illegal contributions to Edwards' 2004 presidential campaign. Fieger pleaded not guilty and authorities have said the Edwards campaign was unaware of the activity.

Edwards campaign spokesman Eric Schultz said the campaign will await the outcome of the case against Fieger before acting on the money he helped raise.

"From Day One, the campaign has taken their lead from and cooperated fully with the Department of Justice," Schultz said. "Once this prosecution concludes, if Geoffrey Fieger is found guilty, the campaign will donate all the money in question to charity."

He said the campaign, like Clinton's has also stepped up its vetting of fundraisers.

"We have always had an extensive vetting process for our raisers, but based on the Hsu revelations, and to err on the side of caution, we have begun doing criminal background checks as well," he said.

Obama has already given to charity money that Hsu contributed to his Senate campaign in 2004 and to his political action committee in 2005. Hsu did not assist Obama's presidential campaign but he helped host one fundraiser for Obama during his Senate run. Obama's campaign sent letters to donors potentially affiliated with Hsu, seeking assurances that the money they donated was their own.

Campaign spokesman Bill Burton said the campaign was not returning any money from those donors yet because it was still awaiting their response.

Obama has also given to charity about $37,000 in contributions to his Senate campaign and political action committee that were linked to Chicago businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko, who faces extortion and fraud charges related to an Illinois public pension fund. Rezko also raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama's state legislative and Senate races. And while Obama has divested his campaign of money from some Rezko associates, he has kept money from others.

"We're constantly reviewing and updating our processes for vetting donations and donors, and we'll continue to do that," Burton said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ap; bias; clinton; clintontong; heave; hillary; hillaryclinton; hsu; hurl; icallbs; mediabias; money; msm; newstandard; normanhsu; precedent; puke; returns
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1 posted on 09/11/2007 2:21:39 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

bump


2 posted on 09/11/2007 2:23:25 PM PDT by lowbridge ("We control this House, not the parliamentarians!” -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
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To: NormsRevenge

This must mean that Hsu is still alive —— :-)


3 posted on 09/11/2007 2:23:25 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: NormsRevenge

Where is the MegaBarf alert?


4 posted on 09/11/2007 2:23:31 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: NormsRevenge
"By returning the money, Clinton also...'

Huh? How does that work? How do you return ill gotten money to the original crook?

5 posted on 09/11/2007 2:23:35 PM PDT by avacado
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To: NormsRevenge

The bitch lies.


6 posted on 09/11/2007 2:23:43 PM PDT by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just lol.


7 posted on 09/11/2007 2:23:55 PM PDT by cpanter (Fred Thompson / Mark Steyn)
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To: NormsRevenge

Yeah, she’s quite the ethics poster girl.


8 posted on 09/11/2007 2:24:23 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
crAP
9 posted on 09/11/2007 2:25:04 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (sing after me......de-por-ta-tion cha-cha-cha)
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To: NormsRevenge

Precedent? In what sense? That she had refused to return ill-gotten funds in the past? [hoot]


10 posted on 09/11/2007 2:25:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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I told Hillary,,
Hillary, you better watch it with that Norman Hsu guy..
but would she listen?

Former President Bill Clinton chats as he signs copies of his new book, 'Giving,' Friday, Sept. 7, 2007, at a a bookstore in downtown Chicago as a part of his national book tour. (AP Photo/M. Spencer Green)


11 posted on 09/11/2007 2:25:27 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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"Everybody in politics lies, but [the Clintons] do it with such ease, it's troubling." David Geffen ( a Former Clinton supporter who slept in the White House during the Clinton years)

Listening to NPR today, believe it or not, even they are skeptical of Hillary and her ability to return this money, as the vetting did not work at all the first time.

12 posted on 09/11/2007 2:27:18 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( my opinions do not represent the opinions of the management at Free Republic, they are mine alone.)
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Oh wow, they has this old shot up..

House Speaker Thomas Foley of Wash., left, and President Clinton applaud as first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton speaks in Statuary Hall on Capitol Hill Oct. 27, 1993, about her Health Security plan. As first lady, Clinton's signature policy initiative, reforming the nation's health care system, fell apart, largely due to both Clintons' refusal to compromise with health care industry skeptics, and lawmakers. Now campaigning for the presidency in 2008, Clinton says she learned important lessons, and plans a more inclusive approach to reforming health care. (AP Photo/Greg Gibson, File)

13 posted on 09/11/2007 2:28:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge

That’s like saying that a fence is doing a great thing by returning stolen merchandise after he gets caught.


14 posted on 09/11/2007 2:28:26 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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Just who does the campaign return the money to?..............


15 posted on 09/11/2007 2:28:42 PM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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Okay boys and girls, let’s follow the money all the way back to its origins....ChiComs, off-shore, ill-gotten sources?


16 posted on 09/11/2007 2:29:16 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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Clinton returns money, sets precedent

Well, this would be a first...

...for the Clintons.

17 posted on 09/11/2007 2:29:19 PM PDT by lowbridge ("We control this House, not the parliamentarians!” -Congressman Steny Hoyer (D))
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To: NormsRevenge

Hillary! A glowing example of moral fiber! MSM will now praise her to the heavens for setting standards as they heave a sigh of relief.


18 posted on 09/11/2007 2:30:42 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: Right Cal Gal

Rehabilitating Hillary is no easy task,,
even the spinmeisters are stuck.


19 posted on 09/11/2007 2:30:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE’s toll-free tip hotline—1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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She’s so honest I could cry.


20 posted on 09/11/2007 2:31:11 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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