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Medieval Women 'Had Girl Power'
BBC ^ | 9-11-2007

Posted on 09/11/2007 8:28:04 AM PDT by blam

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To: blam

Women may have held some power in the Middle Ages, but I would bet lots of money that girls didn’t.

Which is one of many reasons I despise the phrase “girl power.” All girls have the power to do are giggle, squeal, and monopolize the bathroom.


21 posted on 09/11/2007 9:39:25 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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22 posted on 09/11/2007 9:44:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, August 29, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Thats for sure!

But then you could not have the viscious misandry of today unless you had first constructed lies about the past. Which is exactly what the feminists did. None of the findings are “new” and for them to have this “ain’t this a surprise” moment is at best disingenuous.


23 posted on 09/11/2007 9:44:47 AM PDT by Adder (hialb)
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To: wideawake

And I despise feminists.


24 posted on 09/11/2007 9:50:04 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: live+let_live

lmao!


25 posted on 09/11/2007 9:51:07 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: blam
I’m sure Chaucer didn’t refer to the “cuntry” for nothing!
26 posted on 09/11/2007 9:52:20 AM PDT by Jagman (I drank Frank Rabelais under the table!)
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To: wideawake

I think freedoms varied from town to town for everyone. But it certainly makes sense that during a time when a lot of men were often off fighting that their women at home assumed a lot more responsibility. I also think that the middle ages has gotten the rep for being a very backward age. That’s not necessarily true at all.


27 posted on 09/11/2007 9:57:10 AM PDT by twigs
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To: live+let_live

LOL!!!


28 posted on 09/11/2007 10:22:16 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Those on women were very sexist.

Women likely took sexist rhetoric for granted, and concentrated on social and financial power instead.

I blushed while reading some of the poems.

Duke William of Aquitaine was a frisky old dog :-). It's funny how each new generation thinks it discovered sex!

29 posted on 09/11/2007 10:28:00 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Says the text so divine, 'What is life without wine?' ")
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hildegard_of_Bingen

One of my faves, Hildegard of Bingen was advisor to Frederick I Barbarossa, who launched the third crusade. Hildegard’s lasting influence came through her mystical visions and glorious music. Today, she’d probably be “diagnosed” as bipolar for her mystical visions. She was popularized in the 1980s by Fr. Matthew Fox while he was still in the relatively good graces of the Catholic Church. He wrote at least one book about her — and a good one, with color illustrations of her visions, which had been translated into art by a contemporary of hers.


30 posted on 09/11/2007 10:48:23 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: blam
"They could be more sexually liberated as there would be no child as evidence of their fornication or adultery.

I have no clue what this line is doing here. What's the reasoning?

Regine Pernoud argued that the revival of Roman Law and growing elite admiration for classical pagan culture led to the reintroduction of their hard patriarchal systems.

31 posted on 09/11/2007 11:04:43 AM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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Maybe the author is thinking that women in their mid-30’s would be menopausal?

Aside from that, the author clearly thinks promiscuity is a good thing, and is projecting that “value” onto historic figures.


32 posted on 09/11/2007 11:39:29 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Says the text so divine, 'What is life without wine?' ")
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To: blam
These so called academics are so narrow in their knowlege base. Especially since this stuff has been written about ad nauseum...

Empress Theodora of the Byzantine Empire died in 548 AD

33 posted on 09/11/2007 1:40:48 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: blam
The medievalist at Bangor's Institute of Early and Modern Studies, studied legal records, literature and songs to build up a picture of life for women between the 12th and 15th Centuries.

One of my favorite groups, The Medieval Baebes, sing music from the Middle Ages in the original languages, and there is one called "I Am Eve" from the thirteenth century that they sing.

The language of the song is Irish, thirteen century Irish at that, and of course I can't understand the words, but the song sure sounds like a feminist anthem.

It's a very good song, and sounds rather powerful for it's time. I'd love to know what the words mean.

34 posted on 09/11/2007 1:45:56 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: eleni121
Before Theodora was Empress Pulcheria.
35 posted on 09/11/2007 1:52:52 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Mediaeval Baebes:I Am Eve

Not really a feminist anthem as I read it.
36 posted on 09/11/2007 4:19:41 PM PDT by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
BTW - This is a bit more Feminist:

Mediaeval Baebes:Adam Lay Ibounden Lyrics

Mediæval Bæbes - Adam Lay Ibounden (live)
37 posted on 09/11/2007 4:36:35 PM PDT by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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To: Veto!

I love what I’ve heard of her compositions.


38 posted on 09/11/2007 5:04:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, August 29, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wideawake

“yet feminists despise the Church.”

I agree. Christianity is the key to women’s freedom. The current hatred has a lot to do with leftist theology and not much to do with true freedom.


39 posted on 09/11/2007 5:09:13 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
And before Pulcheria there was the Empress Helen, here pictured with her son the Emperor Constantine


Sts Constantine and Helen

40 posted on 09/11/2007 6:15:16 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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