Radio frequencies help burn salt water(remarkable potential energy source))

Yahoo ^ | 9/10/2007 | Staff

[Neville72]

ERIE, Pa. - An Erie cancer researcher has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.

John Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies, it would burn.

The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.

Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College lab to confirm his own observations.

The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.

The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.

"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."

Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.

The scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen — which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit — would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.

"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."

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[ichabod1]

The secret to Internet success is to keep the search terms to a minimum, not a maximum. You'll never find an exact match to the whole thing.

Yeah, but when you put a complex query out there and get a hit it's pretty cool. Why can't we execute SQL over Google?

[RightWhale]

Dell just offered to update my computer system. Apparently they want to disable everything except Google this time.

[ichabod1]

That’s why it’s research. I don’t mind them DOING it, that’s how you learn to do it with LESS energy expenditure. Perhaps a good reason not to trumpet it as the holy grail though.

[dr huer]

Nor will the First Law of Thermodynamics!

[who_would_fardels_bear]

"Why can't we execute SQL over Google?"

Because we don't ... and if Google is as smart a company as we are told ... we should never know the table structures that Google uses to store its search data.

select [what row?] from [what table?] where [what row?] = ???

You aren't going to get far with SQL if you don't know what you're querying against.

[maine-iac7]

Matters not if true or not.

There’s no way in he*l any government would let an almost free energy source to be developed - or anything else that would interfere with the deep pockets of the big boys. Just think “Tucker Torpedo” for one of example.

Best damn car to come down the pike at that time = and would’ve mopped the floor with the big 5 in Detroit. Their bought and paid for buddies in DC squashed Tucker like a bug - and then the big 5 proceeded to steal his innovations - many of which are still in use today/

[Justa]

"There’s no way in he*l any government would let an almost free energy source to be developed - or anything else that would interfere with the deep pockets of the big boys."

Or if they let it be developed they make sure the Big Boys are in control and the cost of the technology is set high enough so that it doesn't upset the other Big Boys. Example: nuclear power generation, GE, Westinghouse and oil corporations. Nuclear power was touted at first as practically free energy but before it rolled out it was over-regulated and government controlled to such an extent that only a select few companies could build it and its power generating costs were as expensive as oil.

[Rb ver. 2.0]

“This piece of breaking news has hit FR about a dozen times this summer. Nobody gets a match on the exact title. The secret to Internet success is to keep the search terms to a minimum, not a maximum. You’ll never find an exact match to the whole thing.”

Oh yeah? http://tinyurl.com/2y2wqv

[LukeL]

This sounds like my highschool science class where the teacher put a current through a tank of water and collected the hydrogen in a sealed vial then lit it on fire. Of course it took about 3 hours of electricty to get 1 second of fuel.

[A. Patriot]

And if you collected the hydrogen and oxygen into the same container, then light it, it sounded as loud as a gun shot. :-)

[BobS]

I work in uW and every idiot in the field knows that H2O, O2 and H become resonant at their own microwave frequencies. Then you get into absorption and reflection coefficients that radar is designed around to pick the right transmission/recieve frequency.

Unless there is some new pulse, amplitude, or frequency modulation involved, I know how this guy can blow up his microwave oven with a bowl of food. If he doesn't get a grant for that, he can stand in front of a satellite uplink. Those have klystrons linked to parametric amplifiers through waveguide to the antenna. Many Watts of directed RF Power. X and Ku band usually. He might get a grant for putting a hot dog on a pool cue first.

[BobS]

At least you know this stuff. The microwave source has to be focused on the absorption coefficient frequency of hydrogen to break the valence bond. There are a few. And it will be very hot water vapor unless there is an unknown ingredient or process involved. Let’s see. I could probably do this with a large amount of electricity and time just at work. Never say never.

[fabian]

God provides no free lunch but he does provide free energy. It is His gift to us. I know of one scientist that is presently building a perpetual motion generator that uses the gravity field for energy. He recently gave a talk to many scientists and was very well received. His name is Roy Masters. His thesis is available at fhu.com.

[poindexters brother]

Conservation of energy dictates that if no energy is removed from a closed system then it will never stop. The only real-life example we have, though, is the entire universe

However, I read that entropy must increase to a maximum...

The Last Question

[poindexters brother]

Lets try this again... Conservation of energy dictates that if no energy is removed from a closed system then it will never stop. The only real-life example we have, though, is the entire universe

However, I read that entropy must increase to a maximum...

The Last Question

[nuke rocketeer]

Yeah right.

Show me the machine AND the math behind the theory.

This is just another scam for fleece the gullible.

[fabian]

instead of listening to the negative thoughts in your head, why don’t you go to fhu.com and read Roy’s thesis. He is hardly in this for the money and has actually been helping people to overcome anger for many years. The generator is being built right now so we will see it work very soon.

[nuke rocketeer]

I looked at hs website and all I saw was pseudo religious psychobabble, again aimed at fleecing the gullible. I saw nothing that showed me he has the technical skills/smarts to build a perpetual motion machine in violation of physical laws. If you had ANY technical background at all you would not believe it either. First of all to build one , you have to have some kind of material or force field that would negate friction totally, then you have to build the machine that creates energy out of nothing without any inputs at 100% efficiency so that when you tap into the motion to turn a generator it does not stop the machine. All sources of energy used by our civilization are conversions from one form to another. Hydropower units cnvert thepotential energy of falling water into rotary motion to generate power, steam plants convert the energy in the chemical bonds of coal, oil, and gas or the energy in nuclear bonds of uranium into heat to make steam to turn a generator, cars take the chemical bond energy in gasoline or diesel and turn it into motion. None of this is 100% efficient and never will be. Scam artists are always fleecing the gullible, and given the piss-poor level of technical education in this nation there are more and more gullible suckers by claiming to create energy for free.

[Shyla]

What have I told you about listening to negative thoughts?

Tsk, tsk...

[fabian]

that’s fine , believe what you want. I guess you didn’t bother to read Roy’s thesis where he explains his discovery. All new revolutionary discoveries are always met with negativism such as is coming through your mind. And Roy is one man who is often exposing how the misuse of religion is merely another escape for many people. Your characterization of him os totally false.