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Radio frequencies help burn salt water(remarkable potential energy source))
Yahoo ^ | 9/10/2007 | Staff

Posted on 09/11/2007 4:50:56 AM PDT by Neville72

ERIE, Pa. - An Erie cancer researcher has found a way to burn salt water, a novel invention that is being touted by one chemist as the "most remarkable" water science discovery in a century.

John Kanzius happened upon the discovery accidentally when he tried to desalinate seawater with a radio-frequency generator he developed to treat cancer. He discovered that as long as the salt water was exposed to the radio frequencies, it would burn.

The discovery has scientists excited by the prospect of using salt water, the most abundant resource on earth, as a fuel.

Rustum Roy, a Penn State University chemist, has held demonstrations at his State College lab to confirm his own observations.

The radio frequencies act to weaken the bonds between the elements that make up salt water, releasing the hydrogen, Roy said. Once ignited, the hydrogen will burn as long as it is exposed to the frequencies, he said.

The discovery is "the most remarkable in water science in 100 years," Roy said.

"This is the most abundant element in the world. It is everywhere," Roy said. "Seeing it burn gives me the chills."

Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.

The scientists want to find out whether the energy output from the burning hydrogen — which reached a heat of more than 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit — would be enough to power a car or other heavy machinery.

"We will get our ideas together and check this out and see where it leads," Roy said. "The potential is huge."

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KEYWORDS: energy; johnkanzius; kanzius; radio; science
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1 posted on 09/11/2007 4:50:57 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: Neville72

If we could just harness the energy from this story being continuously reposted, we would have unlimited free energy.


2 posted on 09/11/2007 4:53:04 AM PDT by palmer
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To: palmer

Blame the search function, not me. I searched the exact title and got nothing.


3 posted on 09/11/2007 4:57:31 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: Neville72

For those non scientists out there, just remember, God provides NO free lunch. This is not a new “soucrce” of energy. Salt water is about the most inert substance in the world, and the available energy from burning the hydrogen produced is less than the microwave (i.e. electro-machnetic) power required to produce it. It is not a secret that you can produce hydrogen from water by applying an electric field. Perhaps microwaves are a good way to do that, but there is no “breakthrough” here.


4 posted on 09/11/2007 4:58:40 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

2nd Law of Thermodynamics will not be violated no matter what these yahoos think.


5 posted on 09/11/2007 5:00:30 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If Roger Maris got an asterisk next to his name, Bonds should get a syringe)
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To: Neville72
It's Alive!!



6 posted on 09/11/2007 5:02:10 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: Neville72
Roy will meet this week with officials from the Department of Energy and the Department of Defense to try to obtain research funding.

'Nuff said!

7 posted on 09/11/2007 5:03:29 AM PDT by sonofagun
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To: Neville72

Roy and Kanzius never passed Physics, Chemistry or Logic, apparently. But they did pass the course on securing grants.


8 posted on 09/11/2007 5:10:08 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Neville72
"The potential is huge."

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9 posted on 09/11/2007 5:14:43 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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10 posted on 09/11/2007 5:15:05 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: Neville72

What’s the frequency, Kenneth?


11 posted on 09/11/2007 5:15:37 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Neville72
I call bullshit.

Point your magic radio at water, hydrogen splits out. You burn the hydrogen, which turns it back into water. And there's supposed to be a net gain in energy somewhere?

TANSTAFFL, you-all.

12 posted on 09/11/2007 5:26:19 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalism -- threat or menace?")
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To: Neville72

At most this is a more efficient way to liberate the hydrogen than electrolysis (electrolysis is about 50% efficient). It would be a useful result, although not earth shattering, if the efficiency of this process is better by 10 or 20 points. It’s definitely not a way to “create” energy.

But since they don’t appear to have actually done the calculations you can’t even be sure that this is more efficient than electroysis. (Said calculations apparently require large amounts of grant funding even though an honors science student in high school could get a good estimate in about 2 hours given one of the radio devices).


13 posted on 09/11/2007 5:27:02 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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To: from occupied ga

Yes. I know.

I’ve already been contacted and the money is as good as in my bank account already.

The $10k I’ve got in there is my life savings, but I’m not worried, because that will soon be chump change.

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14 posted on 09/11/2007 5:34:38 AM PDT by Stallone (Free Republic - The largest collection of volunteer Freedom Fighters the world has ever known)
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To: Neville72

Exxon already has the rights to this technology.


15 posted on 09/11/2007 5:34:46 AM PDT by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: palmer

“If we could just harness the energy from this story being continuously reposted, we would have unlimited free energy.”

- Now, if the energy produced by burning salt water could be used to power the radio frequencies which released it with some left over to heat my house, then I think they might have something here.


16 posted on 09/11/2007 5:43:43 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Neville72
The source of the Radio Frequency will require much more energy than provided from burning the evolved hydrogen.


17 posted on 09/11/2007 5:45:31 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: neodad

Finally we know what that dude was asking ;-)


18 posted on 09/11/2007 5:53:52 AM PDT by festus (I'm a fRedneck and proud of it.)
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To: AndyJackson
For those non scientists out there, just remember, God provides NO free lunch.

Andy, Andy, Andy.

Next you'll be telling me there's no such thing as perpetual motion.

19 posted on 09/11/2007 6:01:28 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Lee N. Field

People who never check the math will always fall for these con game.

I love the “magic radio” comment. And your tagline made me laugh...

(Do you have a different meaning or did you mean TANSTAAFL?)


20 posted on 09/11/2007 6:02:49 AM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every athiest.)
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