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Fox News Debate Won By Ron Paul Despite Ridicule
Legal Newswire ^ | September 07, 2007 | Legal Newswire: Law Fuel

Posted on 09/07/2007 8:29:47 AM PDT by rface

The Legal Newswire - It is obvious that, after seeing the Fox News Debates on Sept. 5th, 2007, the mainstream media and GOP see Ron Paul as enough of a threat to stop ignoring him, and to start ridiculing him. From using a split screen to show Giuliani smirking as Ron Paul answers his questions, to the background chuckles as he is asked questions, Ron Paul has apparently become the butt of an inside joke.

However, with a 33% win in the post-debate poll, it is Ron Paul who should be laughing. Of course, Sean Hannity could not resist making the ridiculous statement that the “Paulites” had spammed the poll. The argument, both false and illogical, is used to attempt to plant the seed in the minds of the American people that Ron can’t win, and conclude he is a “wasted” vote.

If it were possible to vote multiple times from one cell phone, then what would be the advantage for Ron Paul anyway? The mainstream media would have us believe that the “front-runner” candidates are so popular, wouldn’t their supporters also text multiple times? In any case, it is impossible to vote twice. I tried it to make sure. So, unless Ron Paul supporters have suddenly become an independently wealthy group of lunatics, with dozens of cell phones each, the results must be representative of REAL PEOPLE.

The bottom line? The FOX News talking heads would have us believe that when the polls show unacceptable results, they must be wrong. This argument is wearing very thin. The American viewers who were paying attention were sure to see the obvious bias of the debate coverage. A full thirty minutes passed before Dr. Paul was given a chance to answer a question. This, after the “big three” had answered two or three each. Tancredo was also given very little time compared to McCain, Romney, and Giuliani.

The bias was not only in the in total time, but also the placement of the time. McCain, Giuliani, and Romney got both the first and the last word in the minds of the American people, opening and closing the debates. Then, they were the first to be interviewed by Neocon lapdog Hannity.

Ron Paul will not win over the entire Republican base. But he does not have to. The Ron Paul Revolution embodies the United, not Divided, States, as Huckabee would insinuate. He is pulling support from both sides of the aisle, drawing in the independents and the disenfranchised as well. The Republican and Democratic voters who put party loyalty above the issues will never vote for Ron Paul. Fortunately, they represent the minority.

So here we are, in the second phase of Gandhi’s aformentioned four phases. This is good news, because it means we are starting to make a difference. However, I predict that it won’t take long for them to move into full attack mode, looking for any and every opportunity to discredit and expose the skeletons in the closet Ron Paul must be hiding from the American people. Fortunately for us, we have a man with the integrity, character, and voting record to back up what he says.


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To: bcsco

Of course, no one really knows what the future holds, but Dr. Paul has a clear and consistent record of honesty, both with his constituents and those of us who want to be his constituents. So when he stated categorically that he would NOT run as an independent or as a Libertarian I tend to believe him.
There are a lot of people who sincerely believe he is not what he appears to be and perhaps you’re one of them. I’m not. I think he’s the real deal and as such, the general population is afraid of the changes he might bring, painting over his American colors with broad strokes of Communist red and cowardly yellow.
Sad.


81 posted on 09/07/2007 9:20:15 AM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: elizabetty

Aww, damn my fat fingers. I meant to put in 3% in.


82 posted on 09/07/2007 9:22:03 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Now more popular than Congress!* *According to a new RasMESSen Poll.)
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To: trisham

Is Ron Paul living in there?

83 posted on 09/07/2007 9:25:02 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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To: oldfart
There are a lot of people who sincerely believe he is not what he appears to be and perhaps you’re one of them. I’m not.

I haven't decided that yet. What I have decided is that I will never, ever, vote for the man because of his isolationist beliefs and belief that America is at fault for 9/11.

However, unless this man comes out and candidly rebukes and refutes those who are using his candidacy for their own political agenda, I will very soon be one who sees him as insincere and a fraud.

84 posted on 09/07/2007 9:28:42 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: rface

I just don’t get all drama here on FR about Ron Paul. Let the man have his say and then we’ll see how does when the votes are counted.


85 posted on 09/07/2007 9:29:36 AM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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To: AFreeCountry74
No, that would be the land of the current occupant of the White House, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Julie-Annie, Limbaugh and other delusional neo-con chicken hawks referring to the state of Iraq.

Wouldn't you be happier at Daily Kos or over in DUmmieland troll?

86 posted on 09/07/2007 9:30:50 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: billbears
Of course they have to buy the phones though don't they? Oh that's right ANSWER, Moveon, and George Soros are buying them all and handing them out right? To little groups sitting in the dark depths of a basement ready to overturn Fox News polls!! OMG, I see it now...

Nope, just a little trip to Wal-Mart with some walkin' around money. Wouldn't surprise me if this is exactly how it went down, given the proclivity for RoPaul supporters to do dishonest things .

87 posted on 09/07/2007 9:33:02 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Want authentic 1st century Christianity? Visit a local, New Testament Independent Baptist church!)
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To: rface

Did FOX news do the contacting of the polls, or was this one of those on-line polls, or “Call this number to vote for Ron Paul”?

The reason Ron Paul gets ridiculed is because he is ridiculous. I used to admire the guy, but he’s turned into the Republican flip-image of Dennis Kucinich, circa 1996.


88 posted on 09/07/2007 9:36:41 AM PDT by dangus
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To: bcsco
What I have decided is that I will never, ever, vote for the man because of his isolationist beliefs and belief that America is at fault for 9/11.

I don't get what is so hard to understand about this. The people "at fault" for 9/11 were dead the moment the planes the planes hit their targets. Paul has argued that the terrorist attacks of 9/11 were retaliation for American interventionist foreign policy over the last century. And non-interventionism isn't the same as isolationism. Isolation is the complete and total closing off of your country culturally, technologically, economically to every other nation on earth. Paul has consistently called for free trade and open, friendly relations with other countries.

89 posted on 09/07/2007 9:37:41 AM PDT by AFreeCountry74 (Hey Brownback: You focus on your family, and I'll focus on mine.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I highly doubt that people are buying dozens of disposable phones to vote for Paul, but that doesn’t mean that call-in polls are a joke.


90 posted on 09/07/2007 9:38:49 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I highly doubt that people are buying dozens of disposable phones to vote for Paul, but that doesn’t mean that call-in polls are NOT a joke.

Oops


91 posted on 09/07/2007 9:39:18 AM PDT by dangus
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To: oldfart
Dr. Paul has a clear and consistent record of honesty

So you call submitting his pork bills then voting against them honest?

C'mon! You know he only votes against them cause he knows they will pass anyway AND then he can fool the idiots by saying he is against pork and point to his BS votes.

92 posted on 09/07/2007 9:43:16 AM PDT by Hazcat (We won an immigration BATTLE, the WAR is not over. Be ever vigilant.)
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To: rface

I haven’t seen any substantive rebuttals of Dr. Paul’s positions. Only name calling. Can’t his detractors come up with something else, like a cogent argument?


93 posted on 09/07/2007 9:44:54 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: AFreeCountry74
Paul has argued that the terrorist attacks of 9/11 were retaliation for American interventionist foreign policy over the last century.

So, you agree that the American casualties on 9/11, and all other attacks against American interests by Islamic Jihadists within the past century were justified? Is that true? Am I correct in that interpretation? I expect a non-equivocal reply.

In the same vein, I assume you'd then agree that America has no business pursuing their global interests unless done so here on our shores. In other words, economic and social interests must be pursued at home; not elsewhere around the World because such pursuit will be seen as 'intervention'.

And non-interventionism isn't the same as isolationism.

See above. Non-intervention can well be seen as/double for isolationism.

Paul has consistently called for free trade and open, friendly relations with other countries.

Isn't that nice! And what to do when those other countries don't want free trade, open and friendly relations, but want to destroy our way of life and beliefs? What then? Wait until they attack us here with their dirty bombs?

94 posted on 09/07/2007 9:50:01 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: AFreeCountry74
Can you provide proof of that quote? He simply disagrees with the way in which this administration tries to pursue the terrorists.

If you do not know that you are not a very good supporter of Ron Paul. Listen to any speech he has ever given on the subject.
95 posted on 09/07/2007 9:50:20 AM PDT by elizabetty (Ron Paul - Because Moonbats Need Choices Too!)
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To: AFreeCountry74
He simply disagrees with the way in which this administration tries to pursue the terrorists.

Man, you are so full of crap. The Terrorists ARE IN IRAQ!!
96 posted on 09/07/2007 9:51:35 AM PDT by elizabetty (Ron Paul - Because Moonbats Need Choices Too!)
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To: AFreeCountry74
No, he is a kook because he REALLY thinks if we leave the terrorist alone they will leave us alone.

Your reply: "Can you provide proof of that quote?"

How about: "I am just absolutely convinced that the best formula for giving us peace and preserving the American way of life is freedom, limited government, and minding our own business overseas." - http://www.fdrs.org/ron_paul_quotations.html.

I'm sure I can find others

97 posted on 09/07/2007 9:56:45 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: Uncle Miltie

No doubt. :)


98 posted on 09/07/2007 9:56:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rface

“the poll that FoxNews initiated....”

Is that the one where people had to pay to send a text message?

Serious, mature people don’t sit around sending text messages trying to inflate a “poll”.
Paul supporters do...


99 posted on 09/07/2007 10:00:22 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
History is “the cogent argument” against his idiotic solutions for a world of evil tyrants dedicated to defeat of the only force - America - standing between them and their evil goals. Advocating that we should abandon allies in areas of the world these tyrant seek to control is such an idiotic solution. Claiming that talking with these tyrants will dissuade them of those evil goals is another idiotic solution.
100 posted on 09/07/2007 10:01:26 AM PDT by drpix
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