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Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone
SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE ^ | September 5, 2007 | Gerry Braun

Posted on 09/05/2007 10:37:55 AM PDT by brityank

Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone



CRISSY PASCUAL / Union-Tribune
A Southwest employee asked Kyla Ebbert, wearing this outfit, to change or leave the plane.

As the mercury climbed over 100 on Labor Day, I called Southwest Airlines with a not entirely hypothetical question:

Could a young woman board a flight to Tucson today wearing a bikini top?

Angelique, the agent who took my call, assured me that a young woman could.

“We don't have a problem with it if she's covered up in all the right spots,” she said. “We don't have a dress code.”

Tell that to Kyla Ebbert, who was escorted off a Southwest Airlines flight two months ago for wearing an outfit far less revealing than a bikini top.

Ebbert, a Mesa College student and Hooters waitress, was allowed to stay on the plane, but only after she put up a fight and, she says, was lectured on how to dress properly.

I don't know about you, but one of my big gripes with the airlines is that they just don't take the time to dispense fashion advice any more.

Southwest explained its treatment of Ebbert in a letter to her mother, saying it could remove any passenger “whose clothing is lewd, obscene or patently offensive” to ensure the comfort of children and “adults with heightened sensitivities.”

Ebbert, 23, says she was judged unfairly by the airline and humiliated by the experience. Who wouldn't be?

She had a doctor's appointment that afternoon in Tucson, where temperatures had topped 106 all week. She arrived at Lindbergh Field wearing a white denim miniskirt, high-heel sandals, and a turquoise summer sweater over a tank top over a bra.

After the plane filled, and the flight attendants began their safety spiel, Ebbert was asked to step off the plane by a customer service supervisor, identified by the airline only as “Keith.”

They walked out onto the jet bridge, where Keith told Ebbert her clothing was inappropriate and asked her to change. She explained she was flying to Tucson for only a few hours and had brought no luggage.

“I asked him what part of my outfit was offensive,” she said. “The shirt? The skirt? And he said, 'The whole thing.' ”

Keith asked her to go home, change and take a later flight. She refused, citing her appointment. The plane was ready to leave, so Keith relented. He had her pull up her tank top a bit, pull down her skirt a bit, and return to her seat.

Ebbert says several flight attendants overheard the conversation and, after an embarrassing walk down the aisle, she took her seat and spread a blanket over her lap. She kept her composure until the plane landed, when she called her mother and broke down.

She took a photo of herself with her cell phone so her mother could see her clothes. That's when mom became livid.

“My daughter is young, tall, blond and beautiful,” Michele Ebbert told me, “and she is both envied and complimented on her appearance. She dresses provocatively, as do 99 percent of 23-year-old girls who can. But they were out of line.”

Who knows where the lines are drawn these days, particularly when it comes to dress? If you watch television, or visit the mall, or take in a game at Petco Park, you'll see women dressed in ways that, 50 years ago, were pornographic. Today they are stylish.

A Supreme Court justice famously could not define “obscene,” and declaring a thing “lewd” imputes motive. Did Kyla Ebbert intend to excite sexual desire on that flight to Tucson? I doubt it, just as I doubt that flight attendants are proper judges of such matters.

But neither am I. So when I arranged to see Ebbert in the notorious outfit, I brought along my fashion advisers, writer Nina Garin and photojournalist Crissy Pascual, who for years collaborated on a feature in this newspaper called “Seen on the Street.”

The three of us met Ebbert and her mother for lunch at Nordstrom Cafe. Ebbert, who is 5-foot-5 and has green eyes, is pretty enough to be a model.

Yet even wearing the clothes that scandalized Southwest, she did not attract attention beyond some lingering glances.

My fashion advisers were baffled, saying they saw nothing you don't see on a college campus or in Pacific Beach.

“I was expecting to be shocked, and I was shocked the other way,” Pascual told me.

“It wasn't a big deal,” Garin said. “Her skirt was a bit short, which was only accented by her heels. If she had been wearing flip-flops it wouldn't have mattered.”

Garin wondered if a jealous woman may have complained about Ebbert's outfit. I asked her what she would have said had she been on the plane.

“ 'I hope she's not sitting next to my husband,' ” Garin replied. “She's pretty. She wears her clothes well. But I wouldn't complain about it.”

Pascual detected sexism in the way Ebbert was treated, wondering if a man would have been asked to change clothes. Do men dress inappropriately? “I see butt cracks, a lot of butt cracks,” she said.

In its letter, Southwest said “there were concerns about the revealing nature of her outfit.”

I called Hollye Chacón, the Southwest customer relations representative who wrote the letter, to see if we were talking about the same outfit.

“What exactly was being revealed?” I asked.

She said yesterday she'd call back, but never did. That's pretty revealing in itself.


Gerry Braun: (619) 542-4563;



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: burkasforall; dresscode; flyingimam; southwest; southwestairlines
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To: Jaysun

Just remember the floor tile principle.


141 posted on 09/05/2007 11:51:20 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Rightly Biased

This is NOT Keith

142 posted on 09/05/2007 11:52:00 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: dighton

On PSA planes, I like the smile that was put it at the nose of the aircraft. Kind of cool !


143 posted on 09/05/2007 11:53:41 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: brityank

“I see butt cracks, a lot of butt cracks,” she said.

144 posted on 09/05/2007 12:00:37 PM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: AngryJawa

LOL!


145 posted on 09/05/2007 12:01:58 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time .)
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To: CORedneck

I’m like you. If I have to be squeezed into a tin can airplane like a sardine for sometimes hours at a time, I’m going to at least be dressed comfortably.


146 posted on 09/05/2007 12:10:30 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: dighton

I used to fly PSA all the time in the 70’s. Truely a joy.


147 posted on 09/05/2007 12:12:27 PM PDT by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: brityank

“How much for the women? Sell me your daughter!”


148 posted on 09/05/2007 12:14:49 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: brityank

The sky-hags that man today’s airlines probably have a tough time with a comely lass such as this.

I would (hesitantly) like to see a photo of the sky-hag the kicked her off the aircraft.


149 posted on 09/05/2007 12:20:05 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: brityank
I remember the Southwest Airline Hot Pants of the 1970’s very well. Those were the days. Take a look here:
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.timeinc.net/time/2003/flight/images/1970s.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.time.com/time/2003/flight/fashion4.html&h=504&w=374&sz=37&hl=en&start=10&sig2=Hjzdu4uNvO_ZmqmpQOesQg&tbnid=JzP6Kuz3a0lZpM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=96&ei=nP_eRoetMaaygAKN4oiGAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSOUTHWEST%2BAIRLINE%2BHOT%2BPANTS%26as_st%3Dy%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
150 posted on 09/05/2007 12:20:38 PM PDT by CHEE (You don't have to practice to be miserable.)
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To: CORedneck

“Surprised to hear this from SW Airlines ! Usually they always been laid back and informal....”

***

Airlines may cut some slack depending on the situation. And there are some rules one or another airline will strictly enforce. For example, being a person of size, I know that Southwest will regularly bounce some overweight passengers who don’t fit well into the seat. It’s often a judgment call.

One of the best shows on tv was “Airline” a reality show about Southwest and some of the situations its employees run into on a daily basis. My favorite episode had this would-be passenger who was so intoxicated, he could hardly stand. After being told by airline employees he was not allowed to board because he was inebriated, the guy looked into the camera (well sorta) and asked “how can they tell I’m abbreviated?” It was too funny.


151 posted on 09/05/2007 12:22:58 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: 1Old Pro

I bet not


152 posted on 09/05/2007 12:41:53 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (Courage is not the lack of fear it is acting in spite of it<><)
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To: fatnotlazy
My favorite episode had this would-be passenger who was so intoxicated, he could hardly stand.

Better than the guy who stank to high heaven, so they wouldn't let him on until he got showered and his clothing cleaned!

153 posted on 09/05/2007 12:51:13 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (A person who does not want the best for America)
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To: brityank

Don’t worry honey, you can sit by me. Just don’t tell my wife.


154 posted on 09/05/2007 12:59:29 PM PDT by live+let_live
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Yes, I do remember that one. They had all kinds — people who lost their tickets and couldn’t understand why they couldn’t board — people who were all bent out of shape because it was storming outside and they wanted to take off. And wasn’t there someone who wanted to transport live lobsters or something live as baggage?

I’ll tell ya — I couldn’t do these folks’ jobs. I’d probably go postal after one day or maybe even one minute. I don’t know how these employees could be so patient.


155 posted on 09/05/2007 1:15:13 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
Heck, if they run out of seats, I’ll generously offer my lap...

Who says chivalry is dead?

That's mighty generous of you, considering how uncomfortable it would be for you.

156 posted on 09/05/2007 1:25:22 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: Centurion2000

Maybe he got on her case for trying to get away with wearing WHITE after Labor Day.


157 posted on 09/05/2007 1:26:10 PM PDT by weegee (NO THIRD TERM. America does not need another unconstitutional Clinton co-presidency.)
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To: FoxInSocks

Keith is probably just jealous that she looks better in a miniskirt and heels, better than he does.


158 posted on 09/05/2007 1:33:06 PM PDT by AFreeBird (Will NOT vote for Rudy. <--- notice the period)
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To: fatnotlazy

I remember one episode where Southwest refused to let a guy board because he was wearing a woman’s skirt.


159 posted on 09/05/2007 1:53:19 PM PDT by Swiss
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To: brityank

She dresses provocatively and she got some attention. What is the problem.


160 posted on 09/05/2007 3:53:43 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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