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Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone
SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE ^ | September 5, 2007 | Gerry Braun

Posted on 09/05/2007 10:37:55 AM PDT by brityank

Southwest fashion police set no-fly zone



CRISSY PASCUAL / Union-Tribune
A Southwest employee asked Kyla Ebbert, wearing this outfit, to change or leave the plane.

As the mercury climbed over 100 on Labor Day, I called Southwest Airlines with a not entirely hypothetical question:

Could a young woman board a flight to Tucson today wearing a bikini top?

Angelique, the agent who took my call, assured me that a young woman could.

“We don't have a problem with it if she's covered up in all the right spots,” she said. “We don't have a dress code.”

Tell that to Kyla Ebbert, who was escorted off a Southwest Airlines flight two months ago for wearing an outfit far less revealing than a bikini top.

Ebbert, a Mesa College student and Hooters waitress, was allowed to stay on the plane, but only after she put up a fight and, she says, was lectured on how to dress properly.

I don't know about you, but one of my big gripes with the airlines is that they just don't take the time to dispense fashion advice any more.

Southwest explained its treatment of Ebbert in a letter to her mother, saying it could remove any passenger “whose clothing is lewd, obscene or patently offensive” to ensure the comfort of children and “adults with heightened sensitivities.”

Ebbert, 23, says she was judged unfairly by the airline and humiliated by the experience. Who wouldn't be?

She had a doctor's appointment that afternoon in Tucson, where temperatures had topped 106 all week. She arrived at Lindbergh Field wearing a white denim miniskirt, high-heel sandals, and a turquoise summer sweater over a tank top over a bra.

After the plane filled, and the flight attendants began their safety spiel, Ebbert was asked to step off the plane by a customer service supervisor, identified by the airline only as “Keith.”

They walked out onto the jet bridge, where Keith told Ebbert her clothing was inappropriate and asked her to change. She explained she was flying to Tucson for only a few hours and had brought no luggage.

“I asked him what part of my outfit was offensive,” she said. “The shirt? The skirt? And he said, 'The whole thing.' ”

Keith asked her to go home, change and take a later flight. She refused, citing her appointment. The plane was ready to leave, so Keith relented. He had her pull up her tank top a bit, pull down her skirt a bit, and return to her seat.

Ebbert says several flight attendants overheard the conversation and, after an embarrassing walk down the aisle, she took her seat and spread a blanket over her lap. She kept her composure until the plane landed, when she called her mother and broke down.

She took a photo of herself with her cell phone so her mother could see her clothes. That's when mom became livid.

“My daughter is young, tall, blond and beautiful,” Michele Ebbert told me, “and she is both envied and complimented on her appearance. She dresses provocatively, as do 99 percent of 23-year-old girls who can. But they were out of line.”

Who knows where the lines are drawn these days, particularly when it comes to dress? If you watch television, or visit the mall, or take in a game at Petco Park, you'll see women dressed in ways that, 50 years ago, were pornographic. Today they are stylish.

A Supreme Court justice famously could not define “obscene,” and declaring a thing “lewd” imputes motive. Did Kyla Ebbert intend to excite sexual desire on that flight to Tucson? I doubt it, just as I doubt that flight attendants are proper judges of such matters.

But neither am I. So when I arranged to see Ebbert in the notorious outfit, I brought along my fashion advisers, writer Nina Garin and photojournalist Crissy Pascual, who for years collaborated on a feature in this newspaper called “Seen on the Street.”

The three of us met Ebbert and her mother for lunch at Nordstrom Cafe. Ebbert, who is 5-foot-5 and has green eyes, is pretty enough to be a model.

Yet even wearing the clothes that scandalized Southwest, she did not attract attention beyond some lingering glances.

My fashion advisers were baffled, saying they saw nothing you don't see on a college campus or in Pacific Beach.

“I was expecting to be shocked, and I was shocked the other way,” Pascual told me.

“It wasn't a big deal,” Garin said. “Her skirt was a bit short, which was only accented by her heels. If she had been wearing flip-flops it wouldn't have mattered.”

Garin wondered if a jealous woman may have complained about Ebbert's outfit. I asked her what she would have said had she been on the plane.

“ 'I hope she's not sitting next to my husband,' ” Garin replied. “She's pretty. She wears her clothes well. But I wouldn't complain about it.”

Pascual detected sexism in the way Ebbert was treated, wondering if a man would have been asked to change clothes. Do men dress inappropriately? “I see butt cracks, a lot of butt cracks,” she said.

In its letter, Southwest said “there were concerns about the revealing nature of her outfit.”

I called Hollye Chacón, the Southwest customer relations representative who wrote the letter, to see if we were talking about the same outfit.

“What exactly was being revealed?” I asked.

She said yesterday she'd call back, but never did. That's pretty revealing in itself.


Gerry Braun: (619) 542-4563;



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: burkasforall; dresscode; flyingimam; southwest; southwestairlines
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To: mewzilla

“I’m just happy if they’re clean and fit in their seats.”

LOL! Me, too! And just because she dresses like a pop tart doesn’t mean she are one!


101 posted on 09/05/2007 11:18:28 AM PDT by Froufrou
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To: goldstategop
Yep, she'd certainly have been welcome on a Hooters plane...


102 posted on 09/05/2007 11:18:40 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: donna

No. They are married friends of mine whom I’ve known for years. They took the job strictly for the travel benefits and not for the money. They also work as few hours as possible so they can travel.


103 posted on 09/05/2007 11:18:41 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: FoxInSocks

I think Keith was just in a bad mood because he put on a few pounds and the Little Black Dress didn’t fit him anymore...


104 posted on 09/05/2007 11:18:47 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (The Chairman of the Iraq Veterans Against the War is a Marxist Sandinista Insurgent. Peace Out.)
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To: donna

LOL...good one


105 posted on 09/05/2007 11:20:04 AM PDT by DenverGal
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To: Doctor Raoul
1960s Go-Go Airline commercial

National Airlines, of "Fly Me" ad campaign fame.

106 posted on 09/05/2007 11:20:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

“I’m just happy if they’re clean and fit in their seats.”

***

Is there anyone who actually fits in his seat?


107 posted on 09/05/2007 11:20:56 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

LOL. I could if I cut my legs off :)


108 posted on 09/05/2007 11:21:57 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: fatnotlazy

(chuckle)


109 posted on 09/05/2007 11:22:22 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Disambiguator
She could be Ann Coulter’s stunt double.

Except Ann does all of her own stunts.

At least that's what she's implied in a couple of interviews that I've heard...

110 posted on 09/05/2007 11:22:48 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: brityank
She arrived at Lindbergh Field wearing a white denim miniskirt, high-heel sandals, and a turquoise summer sweater over a tank top over a bra.

no undies? that may explain "lewd"
111 posted on 09/05/2007 11:22:50 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders- don't re-elect them!)
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To: dighton

Cut offs are a good thing....


112 posted on 09/05/2007 11:22:59 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: absolootezer0
no undies? that may explain "lewd"

Who the heck would sit on a filthy aiplane seat in a miniskirt sans undies??

113 posted on 09/05/2007 11:25:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

That was before women were liberated!

Wait a minute, something doesn’t seem right . . .


114 posted on 09/05/2007 11:25:53 AM PDT by donna (Chickens grown in the USA; then processed in CHINA; then sold in the USA. Huh?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
...and i’d love to see a picture of what she looked like when she was taken OFF the plane.

That might work for you but the rest of us are holding out for a photo taken during the TSA strip search.

115 posted on 09/05/2007 11:26:22 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: al baby; Allegra; Auntbee; BJClinton; Dashing Dasher; dfwddr; exile; feinswinesuksass; ...
Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket TaЯd ping!

"tard" refers to the ping list members and not necessarily the subject of the thread.

116 posted on 09/05/2007 11:26:37 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: fatnotlazy
The worst flight attendants are Useless Air’s. In fact, most of their employees appear miserable to me. I realize the airline is perennially teetering on bankruptcy and they had to give up wages and benefits, but it’s not my fault.

I kind of liked America West before the US Airways takeover. But one trip under the new management was enough to drive me back to Southwest permanently.

117 posted on 09/05/2007 11:26:51 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: brityank

I’d tell the crew she could sit next to me. No problem at all.


118 posted on 09/05/2007 11:27:02 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: donna
Wait a minute, something doesn’t seem right . . .

LOL. You ain't kidding....

119 posted on 09/05/2007 11:27:04 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: brityank
Surprised to hear this from SW Airlines ! Usually they always been laid back and informal. I would have expected to hear something like this from United Airlines more than anyone else !
120 posted on 09/05/2007 11:32:30 AM PDT by CORedneck
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