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Not even teachers can speak English
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | September 1, 2007

Posted on 09/01/2007 4:13:43 AM PDT by Man50D

An official state inspection of Arizona public schools reveals that many students are being taught English by Spanish-speaking teachers whose command of English is so poor that the officials can barely understand them.

The recent inspection revealed teachers providing instruction in Spanish instead of the legally required English, students unable to answer questions in English, and teachers' instructions such as "Sometimes, you are not gonna know some."

The results of the inspections were reported by the Arizona Republic, which concluded hundreds of students in the state are trying to learn English from teachers who don't know the language.

The inspections found teachers who are unable to use English grammar and cannot pronounce English words. The "You are not gonna know" comment came from a Mesa teacher instructing a classroom filled with students trying to learn English.

From a Casa Grande Elementary District teacher came, "read me first how it was before," and a Phoenix teacher at Creighton Elementary asked, "If you have problems, to who are you going to ask?"

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To: Clintonfatigued

Having an degree in education does not qualify one to teach. My best friend and s-i-l both have teaching degrees from the same college, known for it’s teaching program. I asked both of them the same question: Did your teaching degree teach you to teach?

They both gave me the same answer: No.

You’re expected to learn as you go once you get a job and they both felt that they would be better qualified to teach if they had the more intense courses offered by the non-teaching degree program. But the program doesn’t allow courses to be substituted. A teacher has to take those specified for the teaching degree. Conversely, no other degree program will accept the teaching major courses because they aren’t rigorous enough.

An example is science. Pick any course, like Biology. There’s Bio 101 for non-science majors, Bio 111 for science majors, and there’s Bio 105 for teaching majors. Non teaching majors cannot take Bio 105 and teaching majors cannot take any thing BUT Bio 105, even if it would make them better science teachers.

A degree in teaching is useless for any other career field and in order to become a teacher you have to have a teaching degree. If you want to switch majors, you have to start all over at the beginning. All the time and money spent on a teaching degree is lost nor can credits transfer into the program.

Another thing is, if the professors at a teaching college are not certified to teach in NYS; they cannot teach public high school students, but they CAN teach the teachers who are going to teach those high school students.

Go figure.


61 posted on 09/02/2007 3:03:19 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Man50D

**An official state inspection of Arizona public schools reveals that many students are being taught English by Spanish-speaking teachers whose command of English is so poor that the officials can barely understand them. **

Huh? This doesn’t make sense to me.


62 posted on 09/02/2007 5:03:20 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Drew68

Here is a fuuny story about the New Orleanean dialects.
When I first arrived there from California in 1972,I could barely understand anything most of the black residents were saying,particularly the older ones.
Yet after a couple of years of teaching in the Ninth Ward,I returned to Cali and,lo and behold,my own parents could not understand me.I had unconsciously acculturated the language patterns of the ghetto into my own speech patterns.
I had to”relearn”traditional English and to this day occasionally revert back into saying”What time it is?”or”this food be good,yeah”.
Powerful stuff,that acculturation thing.


63 posted on 09/02/2007 5:20:11 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: Darkwolf377
I wrote: "Gud Lukk!"

LOL. I just wanted to stop and laugh at that one.

64 posted on 09/02/2007 10:25:42 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: Polybius
"Aren't you sorry you asked? ;-)"

Now I know which FRiend to ask if I need an answer to a troubling question!

65 posted on 09/02/2007 10:42:29 PM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

I laughed when I wrote it—as did the employees who read it and asked me if they thought the ENGLISH teacher would understand the point I was making. :)


66 posted on 09/03/2007 12:22:27 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Atheist, pro-lifer, pro-LEGAL immigrationer, Bostonian, reader, woman-watcher, writer, etc.)
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To: napscoordinator

I took a science class from a Russian - ended up re-writing two papers because of not understanding his accent, as did the rest of the class (no book, just our notes from his lectures) - so we were allowed to do them over.

And all in all it was not a big deal as it was a science class. (If he was trying to teach us English though....)


67 posted on 09/03/2007 12:36:31 AM PDT by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: Darkwolf377
These are the people teaching your kids, America.

No, I'm the person teaching my kids, and the stuff you're talking about is part of why their classroom is our kitchen table...and the real world.

68 posted on 09/03/2007 12:55:30 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Libs obviously don’t believe pro-lifers are terrorists, or they'd placate us by banning abortion.)
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To: Darkwolf377
I wrote: "Gud Lukk!"

LOL!

69 posted on 09/03/2007 12:57:34 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Libs obviously don’t believe pro-lifers are terrorists, or they'd placate us by banning abortion.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
No, I'm the person teaching my kids, and the stuff you're talking about is part of why their classroom is our kitchen table...and the real world.

That may be, but you're not representative of all America. In all fairness, home schoolers are just as able to be awful as those in regular schools, though perhaps not in the same ways--I knew a woman who home schooled her kids and she shouldn't have been allowed to, she was a horrible teacher.

And the simple fact is that the vast majority of Americans don't home-school.

70 posted on 09/03/2007 10:10:42 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Atheist, pro-lifer, pro-LEGAL immigrationer, Bostonian, reader, woman-watcher, writer, etc.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

It would be funnier if I didn’t suspect he STILL hasn’t gotten the dig.


71 posted on 09/03/2007 10:11:29 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Atheist, pro-lifer, pro-LEGAL immigrationer, Bostonian, reader, woman-watcher, writer, etc.)
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To: Ajnin

I get grief in our home for fighting the push to learn Spanish. You will find little innovation and industry in
Spanish speaking peoples. Granted the languages of the industrious people are declining by sheer demographics (German, English, Japanese (even French)).


72 posted on 09/09/2007 3:34:37 PM PDT by steveyp
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