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Gonzales' Successor Must Reject Torture, Say Rights Groups
Yahoooooo! ^ | August 29, 2007 | Haider Rizvi - One World

Posted on 08/30/2007 5:35:12 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

NEW YORK, Aug 29 (OneWorld) - The White House is coming under increasing pressure from a number of Congressional leaders and rights watchdog groups to replace Attorney General Alberto Gonzales with someone who can restore faith in the U.S. justice system.

The calls for the appointment of a "credible" attorney general come just a day after Gonzales tendered his resignation. Gonzales stepped down this weekend in the wake of increased criticism of his conduct of office by the Congress and rights advocacy groups.

Gonzales, a close confidante of President George W. Bush, was accused of promoting the use of torture against prisoners in violation of the U.S. Constitution and of sacking a number of federal prosecutors for political reasons.

Upon his resignation, Gonzales defended his actions, saying that he had done nothing wrong. But many senators, including some of those from his own Republican party, remained unconvinced until the end.

On Tuesday, Democrat Patrick Leahy, who led an inquiry into Gonzales' sacking of eight U.S. attorneys, said the Justice Department under his rein was "corrupted by political influence."

Republican John Sununu, who first called for Bush to sack Gonzales several months ago, said now "a credible and effective" candidate was needed.

Human rights groups that had opposed Gonzales' appointment from the beginning in 2005 have welcomed his resignation, but are demanding that the next choice for attorney general be someone who abides by the constitutional provisions on the treatment of prisoners.

"[This] offers President Bush the opportunity to name a new attorney general who equivocally rejects the use of torture and safeguards the values for which this country stands," said Maureen Byrnes, director of Human Rights First, a prominent rights advocacy group that opposed Gonzales' appointment in 2005.

Byrnes, who said it was under Gonzales that the Justice Department gave "legal cover" to a policy of "official cruelty" to prisoners, urged Congress to investigate the abuses that occurred on his watch.

"With his resignation, this policy must end," she stressed in a statement.

Human Rights Watch's executive director Kenneth Roth offered a similar reaction.

"The most important responsibility of the attorney general is so say no when government officials -- including the president -- are tempted to cross legal boundaries," he said.

In Roth's words, "history will remember Gonzales as the man who never said no to torture and detention policies that violated U.S. and international law."

Like other critics, Roth recalled the fact that, as attorney general and White House Counsel, Gonzales fully endorsed CIA interrogation techniques such as "water boarding" that the United States has long considered to be torture.

"He reviewed and did not object to the Justice Department's infamous 'torture memo', which argued that the president of the United States could not be bound in war times by laws prohibiting torture," Roth said.

Gonzales' critics also refer to the fact that he consistently opposed efforts by other officials in the Bush administration, including Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, to close the notorious detention center at Guantanamo Bay.

In a January 2002 memorandum to Bush, Gonzales suggested that the president declare the Taliban and Al-Qaeda forces in Afghanistan outside the coverage of the Geneva Convention. "In my judgment," he wrote, the war against terrorism, "renders obsolete Geneva's strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners."

However, the memo drew strong objections from Colin Powell, the secretary of state at the time.

Both Human Rights Watch and Human Rights First are trying to build pressure on Congress to probe detention policies approved by Gonzales, and to determine whether specific interrogation practices under his watch violated the law.

The rights organizations are also urging lawmakers to not confirm a successor to Gonzales unless he or she rejects the notion that the president may ignore laws against torture and rules out the use of abusive interrogation techniques approved by the Bush administration in the past.

At the international level, numerous rights groups, including those working with the UN system, have repeatedly raised concerns over U.S. justification of the use of coercive methods to extract information from prisoners.

In January, Ban Ki-moon, the UN Secretary General, urged the United States to close its military prison complex in Guantanamo Bay, where hundreds of foreign citizens remain incarcerated on suspicion of links to terrorism.

"The prison at Guantanamo should be closed,'' Ban said at the fifth anniversary of the first transfer of prisoners to Guantanamo.

More than 400 inmates remain locked up there amid questions as to whether or when any will receive a fair trial according to U.S. and international law.


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Oh, for Pete's Sake!
1 posted on 08/30/2007 5:35:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The calls for the appointment of a "credible" attorney general come just a day after Gonzales tendered his resignation.

How about Janet Reno, the Hero of Waco?

2 posted on 08/30/2007 5:36:58 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I guess they haven’t read the Geneva Convention concerning unarmed combatants...Have they forgot the proper muslim interrogation?


3 posted on 08/30/2007 5:39:11 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I didn’t know torture was unconstitutional.......


4 posted on 08/30/2007 5:39:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmospere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: darkwing104
unarmed = unlawful


5 posted on 08/30/2007 5:39:57 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

So the nominee must refuse to attend confirmation hearings in order to avoid being subject to torture.


6 posted on 08/30/2007 5:40:21 AM PDT by MortMan (Have a pheasant plucking day!)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
How about Janet Reno, the Hero of Waco?

Oh, that wasn't torture, only murder!

Assuming, that is, that the fire was not set by Koresh's fellow whackjobs, which I've not completely discounted.

7 posted on 08/30/2007 5:41:06 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?" TERM LIMITS, NOW!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
In a January 2002 memorandum to Bush, Gonzales suggested that the president declare the Taliban and Al-Qaeda forces in Afghanistan outside the coverage of the Geneva Convention. "In my judgment," he wrote, the war against terrorism, "renders obsolete Geneva's strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners."

Maybe I'm just clueless, but wasn't this a stupid thing for Gonzales to suggest? (I'm betting that the journalist is twisting things and that what Gonzales suggested is not being accurately represented.)

Al-Qaeda is not a signatory to the Geneva Convention, and therefore is outside the scope of that agreement. Furthermore, terrorists fight without identification and on that basis they would also be barred from the protection of the protocol.

Lastly, they are not US citizens, so they aren't protected by the Constitution. I think torture is usually ineffective, and so -- on the basis of efficacy -- I would generally oppose the use. However, if an expert wanted to torture a terrorist, I'm not aware of any legal basis for saying they can't.

8 posted on 08/30/2007 5:41:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

News bulletin: These people were not elected as President and Commander In Chief.


9 posted on 08/30/2007 5:43:13 AM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Gonzales rejected torture. What do these guys want? A promise that there will be no more panties on the prisoners’ heads?


10 posted on 08/30/2007 5:44:05 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
More on One World if anyone else is curious...

One World

Of particular note, the last two paragraphs with regard to tax status.

But the link explains a lot.

11 posted on 08/30/2007 5:44:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
We sure as hell have a lot of al-qaeda members in the US Senate and in the so called “Rights Groups”. Their anti-american help for the enemies of the American People are a direct violation of the Supreme Law of the land.

Round them up and ship them to al-Qaeda land so they can be happy with their kind.

12 posted on 08/30/2007 5:45:04 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: mewzilla

One of these days, I’m starting a 501(c)3 of my own so I can make up stuff that the MSM will print for me for free, thereby bringing in even MORE donations.

Looks like a pretty easy way to make a living. ;)


13 posted on 08/30/2007 5:47:51 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
"[This] offers President Bush the opportunity to name a new attorney general who equivocally understands that the Constitution is a suicide pact and will follow a direction leading to the demise of this corrupt, evil country. Death to America!" said Maureen Byrnes, director of Human Rights First, ...
14 posted on 08/30/2007 5:50:13 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Are these the same “Human Rights” morons that classify air-conditioning as “torture”?


15 posted on 08/30/2007 5:50:41 AM PDT by wny
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

One word: Santorum


16 posted on 08/30/2007 5:50:52 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Well, they've gotten smarter. Hence the sudden sprouting of all kinds of foundations. But money's fungible. Where's the IRS when ya need 'em?
17 posted on 08/30/2007 5:51:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

In other words - Please hire a Spineless Wimp who would make Mother Teresa look like a biker chick.


18 posted on 08/30/2007 5:57:29 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: mewzilla

“Where’s the IRS when ya need ‘em?”

If we could somehow point them in the direction of “She Who Must Be Obeyed” and see something come of it, I’d be happy for the rest of my life. :)


19 posted on 08/30/2007 5:58:16 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

LOL. Well, that’s how the Feds got Capone. Works for me :)


20 posted on 08/30/2007 5:59:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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