Posted on 08/29/2007 7:43:20 AM PDT by jodiluvshoes
Senator Larry Craig is either incoherent or incompetent – or both. His press conference on Tuesday afternoon was exactly the wrong thing to do - on nearly every level. And I for one do not believe that most of his story holds.
Save this one item, when he stated clearly, "I am not gay!"
I'm sure there was no merriment whatsoever in his life the preceding number of hours up to the press conference.
If he meant that was "not homosexual" that too is also likely.
Homosexuality is not a state of defined being. Rather on the best science man has gathered we understand it to be a series of emotions, feelings, desires, choices, and most importantly behavior.
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I didn't say I disagree with what the cop did, I just asked why it's fine with the courts now days for homos to have sex with one another but they can be arrested for trying to arrange meetings with each other. If the cop had followed Craig or any other homosexual and a boyfriend who he met at the terminal to a motel and arrested them for having homo sex a judge would throw it out of court. But when Craig apparently tried to signal the cop that he was looking for a "date" he was arrested. It just doesn't make sense to me.
If a man can flirt with a girl in a public venue without breaking the law, which has been normal for as long as there have been men and women, according to our new politically correct official attitude toward homosexuality it seems logical that homosexuals could also flirt with each other without breaking any laws. I don't have any sympathy for Craig if he is actually homosexual and picks up other men for sex, but I still don't see what he did that broke any law. What crime could he have been charged with, standing around too long in a restroom? Or moving his foot too close to another man's foot? Or allowing his hand to be visible under the dividing wall of the cubicle? How can any of that be a crime? If a person can be arrested and brought before a court for any of those "crimes", the ACLU must not be as all powerful as it's made out to be.
“I didn’t say I disagree with what the cop did, I just asked why it’s fine with the courts now days for homos to have sex with one another but they can be arrested for trying to arrange meetings with each other. If the cop had followed Craig or any other homosexual and a boyfriend who he met at the terminal to a motel and arrested them for having homo sex a judge would throw it out of court. But when Craig apparently tried to signal the cop that he was looking for a “date” he was arrested. It just doesn’t make sense to me.
If a man can flirt with a girl in a public venue without breaking the law, which has been normal for as long as there have been men and women, according to our new politically correct official attitude toward homosexuality it seems logical that homosexuals could also flirt with each other without breaking any laws. I don’t have any sympathy for Craig if he is actually homosexual and picks up other men for sex, but I still don’t see what he did that broke any law. What crime could he have been charged with, standing around too long in a restroom? Or moving his foot too close to another man’s foot? Or allowing his hand to be visible under the dividing wall of the cubicle? How can any of that be a crime? If a person can be arrested and brought before a court for any of those “crimes”, the ACLU must not be as all powerful as it’s made out to be.”
Its legal for heterosexuals to have sex too but the police have always done prostitution sting operations with undercover policewomen.
This particular restroom at the Minneapolis airport had received compliants from citizens that homosexual activity was going on in that restroom.
Sex with consenting adults is legal, public solicitation of sex is not.
Craig give the undercover officer all the signals that he was soliciting sexual activity.
Craig pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor offense of disorderly conduct.
http://media.idahostatesman.com/smedia/2007/08/28/17/Plea_Petition.source.prod_affiliate.36.pdf
He gets all the humiliation and still missed out on his hummer!
He should have claimed that the cop was making moves on him....seems the cop knows waaaaaay too much about gay restroom pick ups.
As Jay Leno put it:
“NBC’s Jay Leno: “I think it’s the hottest day of the year. I think it was 105 today. People were sweating like the men’s room attendant when Senator Larry Craig walked in. ... Idaho Senator Larry Craig, a married, very anti-gay conservative Republican, was arrested by a plain clothes police officer for lewd conduct in a Minneapolis airport men’s room. Today, the senator’s office said it was all a big misunderstanding. Apparently, what happened was when the Senator went in to use the restroom he accidentally grabbed the wrong penis. ... The Democrats may have control of the House, but the Republicans have control of the bathrooms. “
I suspect the homosexuals have sex right there, in the bathroom, not at a motel, and the arrest was an attempt to forestall that activity.
Ed
In private.
Let me explain something to you: Larry Craig's wife is what is known in the homo community as a "beard". She knew all about his proclivities, and she isn't married to him for love or normal marital relations. She's married to him because she loves the lifestyle that being married to someone as powerful as a United States Senator brings.
By the way, this sort of arrangement is a lot more common in Washington than most people out there suspect.
And yes, I know all about men who are addicted to gay sex, and have wives that don’t care or like it, sick.
I’m sure this happens everywhere, not just DC.
Sadly, for the last decades many men and boys are encouraged to by our culture go thru with any and all fantasies, fetishes, and perversions, with other men.
Hedonism rules, even in High Schools this crap is tolerated, it is cool and trendy now.
Agreed, and it's sad.
In a way, the Craigs really aren't all that much different from Bill and Hillary Clinton, who are technically married, but everyone in America understands that their "marriage" is a total sham that's strictly for show.
No, I just think people pick on the Christians because of their faith and their ministries. I just have compassion for people caught up in homosexuality, especially men of faith. I’m sure it has been a horrendous life for him, two lives really. I pray he will be delivered from that horror and the only way he can is through God. It can be controlled perhaps with secular counseling, but only God can really cleanse him (and other gays) and change their lives.
Forgive me if I over-reacted. Sometimes I’m just bitchy.
Not true. I’ve seen young kids in bars (when I used to go into them myself) and they never should have been there.
I believe my brother in law was gay from the time he was a very small child. But, I loved him and he was good to everyone. He didn’t flaunt it.
Democrats of course would NOT know the truth if they backed over it and tripped..
2008 looks scary.. America could become like Canada..
With both parties arguing over how to promote the best kind of socialism..
Which is Slavery by Givernment..
You posted: I believe my brother in law was gay from the time he was a very small child. But, I loved him and he was good to everyone. He didn’t flaunt it.
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I hope I have not come across as judgmental. That is for someone well above my pay grade. Each person must decide for himself what is acceptable and what is not. Your post sounds like he has passed away. What happened?
You posted in part: Sex with consenting adults is legal, public solicitation of sex is not.
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Is that true? If I see a woman on the street and say to her, “How about a little action, baby?” can I be arrested? Slapped maybe, but arrested, I say no.
Bathrooms are a convenience for everyone — male, female, infant, child, and adult to use. They serve an essential function. You remove clothing in a bathroom. So you need to have a reasonable expectation of privacy — not having to worry about people peering, leering, ogling, and staring or attempting to stalk you. Families with children go into the public bathrooms.
Adults go into bars. They peer, leer, ogle, and stare at one another all the time. A bar is not a public convenience since there is no public necessity involved. You don’t have to remove your clothes to use a bar. So, there is no need to be protected by an expectation of privacy. Any clothes removed are by consenting adults and you don’t usually find children in there.
A bathroom and a bar are not the same, so under a just law, you would not hold the bar to the same standards as a bathroom. Is it really that hard to comprehend?
Also if Larry Craig had gone into the airport Ladies’ room doing what he was doing — trolling for dates, he still would have ended up in police custody.
I find this absolutely unbelievable. Is not being able to tell the difference between a public bathroom and a bar a gen-x thing? I really would like to know. Is this is just some odd “group think” or do we have a whole generation of of people who think this way?
The boggling thing is that you have to EXPLAIN this to some 'minds.' Pervert minds, degenerate minds, queer/fag minds, relishing living in a culture cespool like pigs in the mud, and therefore do not understand what is so obvious to the rest of us. Geeezzzzzzzzz...
I have seen this odd mind set, equating a bar with a bathroom, so much right here on this conservative website that I’m “seriesly stuned.”
I don’t expect the sodomites to understand. After all, they are people who identify themselves by their sex life. They see everywhere as a place to troll for sex. It is their habit to sexualize everything and every place. They can’t comprehend that normal people don’t think the same way.
I am interested in knowing if these people who think bars and bathrooms are the same are reasoning through sodomite brains, or are just brainwashed kids, or are a whole generation of people with poor thinking skills.
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