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Dr. Romney Goes National - A Republican health-care plan.
National Review Online ^ | August 27, 2007 | An NRO Symposium

Posted on 08/27/2007 5:30:27 PM PDT by neverdem







Dr. Romney Goes National
A Republican health-care plan.

An NRO Symposium

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney laid out his health-care plan on Friday in Florida. The former Massachusetts governor has earned both contentious criticism and accolades for working with Democrats to reform health-care there while governor. National Review Online asked a group of health-care experts to take a look at what he had to offer Friday. Here are their reactions.


Michael F. Cannon

Mitt Romney just discarded two of the most counterproductive components of his Massachusetts health-care reforms.

Romney’s law is known for (1) its requirement that all individuals purchase health insurance and (2) the “Commonwealth Connector,” a government bureaucracy much like that was championed by First Lady Hillary Clinton in 1993 and rejected by Congress in 1994.

Romney appears to have traded those big-government ideas in for full tax deductibility of out-of-pocket medical expenses and health premiums. Romney’s tax reforms would not do as much to increase affordability or individual ownership as Rudy Giuliani’s would. Nevertheless, they are a dramatic improvement over Romney’s recent past.

Unfortunately, Romney still supports some reforms that would expand government.

Though he advocates block-granting Medicaid, he wants states to use the added flexibility to make more Americans dependent on government for their health care.

He wants to deregulate health insurance, but by having Congress strong-arm the states, rather than by letting Americans purchase health insurance from out-of-state. That’s one free-market reform that neither Romney nor Giuliani have fully endorsed.

Nevertheless, Romney’s abandonment of two major components of his Massachusetts law may signal the decline of big-government conservatism in health care.

Michael F. Cannon is director of health-policy studies at the libertarian Cato Institute and coauthor of Healthy Competition: What’s Holding Back Health Care and How to Free It, 2nd edition (forthcoming).


Robert Goldberg
RomneyCare — like GuilianiCare or proposals being advanced by Senators Burr and Coburn — can win the national debate on health-care reform.

RomneyCare gives people cash and lets them choose the coverage that’s right for them. In Massachusetts, it signed up more people faster than SCHIP signed up in a decade. The difference? Private companies competed for consumers instead of government trying to enroll recipients.

Under RomneyCare people could shop nationwide for the best insurance product for them at the best price. The Democrats would shove everyone into something like the Veterans’ Administration or Medicaid.

Under RomneyCare people could keep the insurance they have or get something else. Under Hillary/Obama/EdwardsCare one would have to pay higher taxes, give up one's current coverage, and have one's choices decided by government. While our soldiers returning from Iraq were waiting six months to see a doctor, Hillary told John Stossel that the VA was an example of government success. Under the Clintons, the lifespan of people treated in Medicaid-funded mental-health agencies declined by ten years. Let the Democrats defend Medicaid and the VA. Romney should campaign for health-care choices at lower prices and take the fight to the Democrats at every campaign stop.

— Robert Goldberg is vice president of the Center for Medicine in the Public Interest.


John Goodman
Mitt Romney is the only U.S. politician who can credibly claim to have created universal health care coverage. His Massachusetts Health Plan may yet falter; but so far he has walked the walk, while his Democrat opponents have only chattered.  He alone owns the health care issue.
The Good.  In taking the Massachusetts plan nationwide, Romney has left most of the bad features on the cutting room floor.  There is no individual mandate, no employer mandate, and no managed competition.  States  would have the opportunity to go their own way.  

People who buy their own health insurance would get the same federal tax relief as those who obtain health insurance at work.  Subsidies would allow low-income families to buy private insurance.  A block grant of medicaid funds would give states the ability to move enrollees to the private sector.

The Bad.  People would be able to deduct all out-of-pocket  health costs.  This bizarre idea probably got added late at night when the Romney team was tired.  In New York City, where  the marginal tax rate is 50 percent, you would be able to buy an MRI scan or a stomach staple for fifty cents on the dollar.  The incentives would be to spend, spend, spend.  By contrast, Health Savings Accounts (which Romney also supports) create incentives to save.

The Question Marks.  What kind of subsidy will low-income purchasers of health insurance get?  Romney is still resisting tax credits.  That opens the door to a spending subsidy, which risks becoming another entitlement. As in Massachusetts, funds hospitals now use to provide free care to the uninsured would subsidize private health insurance instead.  That's good.  But if people turn down the offer and remain uninsured, surely the money needs to go back into the safety net.  That promise needs to be explicit.

 — John Goodman is president and CEO of the National Center for Policy Analysis.


Scott Gottlieb
A patient recently told me he was switching doctors, because he was switching jobs. His new employer didn’t offer his current insurance — a plan incidentally that he was largely happy with. And the plans offered by his new job didn’t include my hospital in its roster of “preferred” practitioners. Even if my patient — I’ll call him Tom — wanted to go outside his employer and re-purchase his present insurance in the private market, tax laws that give unfavorable treatment to such a transaction would make it prohibitively expensive.

These tax rules, and the system of private, employer-based health insurance they spawned, has become the pervasive model in this country, but it was not the product of careful planning or policy design, but rather the result of a series of disconnected political decisions that have left reasonable insurance coverage too costly and incomplete for many Americans.

First was the decision by the Roosevelt administration to make fringe benefits exempt from wartime wage controls. That encouraged employers to offer more health insurance, since better benefits were one of the few enticements they could use to attract workers in a tight, wage-controlled labor market. Next, the government decided that money spent on health insurance provided by employers would not be subject to tax. The result? Increased demand for such benefits, since a dollar of health insurance was more valuable than a dollar of salary.

This leaves people like Tom, who live paycheck to paycheck, at a particular disadvantage. He is tied to his job — for better or worse — since he is unable to purchase economical insurance on his own. Even if he could scrape together the same amount of money his employer was spending to give him health insurance it wouldn’t be enough, since the unfavorable tax treatment means buying the same plan on his own could cost twice as much.

Governor Mitt Romney’s health plan aims to level the playing field, giving people like Tom the same opportunities offered to his employers, or to the wealthy Americans who have enough extra cash to go into the marketplace on their own and buy individual policies, forgoing the tax advantage they’d have if they got a similar plan through a large corporation.

Romney is proposing to change the tax code to allow more people like Tom to deduct their health-care premiums, co-pays, and out-of-pocket expenses. Romney would also give states more flexibility to design programs that help cover more low-income Americans. And the proposal includes medical malpractice reform through the use of specialized health courts and caps on punitive and non-economic damages.

Meaningful reform also needs to free people like Tom to buy health plans that are liberated from all of the extraneous and expensive state “mandates” — on everything from chiropractors to in vitro fertilization — that state legislators heap onto individually bought insurance policies in order to satisfy special-interest groups who use these requirements to make sure their services are covered even if people don’t want them.

The Left complains that the market for health care is broken and they use all the present shortcomings as justification for more government regulation and control. But the problem is that health care isn’t a market at all, and won’t be until people like Tom are liberated to become real consumers of these services, armed with the same tax advantages, choices, and freedom from costly mandates that are offered to big employers.

— Dr. Scott Gottlieb is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a practicing medical doctor.



David Gratzer
During his tenure in Massachusetts, Gov. Romney pushed through a comprehensive reform package that won praise from the people at the Heritage Foundation but, also, the people in Senator Edward Kennedy’s office. Critics on the Left and the Right tend to oversimplify the plan. Nevertheless, it is heavy in government requirements and subsidies, and light on deregulation.

Romney’s health-care advisers divide into two camps: the Massachusetts people and the uber-economists. Needless to say, the people who he’s brought from his Boston days see little wrong with RomneyCare. He also is advised by two of the sharpest minds in health policy: Glenn Hubbard and John Cogan. Hubbard and Cogan co-authored (with Daniel Kessler) the best book written in this field: Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise. They favor deregulation, greater competition, tax reform, and host of other free-market ideas.

Romney, in other words, has two sets of advisers, pushing in two separate directions. In Florida on Friday, Romney announced some principles for reform. Wisely, he listened to Hubbard and Cogan. The outline doesn’t have much in way of details, but the ideas are solid and worthy of serious consideration. Together, they offer a dose of needed medicine for American health care.

Voters will need to consider, though, why he didn’t seek the counsel of Hubbard and Cogan years ago.

— Dr. David Gratzer, a physician, is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. His most recent book is The Cure: How Capitalism Can Save American Health Care. He advises the Giuliani campaign.


John Hood
I’ve always thought that one of the most reliable ways to assess a political program is whether it attracts the right criticism. For most politicians, the natural impulse is to find a way to fashion a plan or craft a message that has something for everyone. The impulse isn’t without its virtues. Indeed, most important policy reforms in Washington and state capitols have come from bipartisan or cross-ideological coalitions of some kind, though usually they aren’t 50-50 propositions — there is a senior partner (such as the Republican Congress on welfare reform) and a junior partner (the Democratic president who eventually signed the bill).

Judging by the criticism standard, Mitt Romney has found the right pitch on health care, where useful reforms will certainly require assembling a coalition. Previously, as a governor, Romney sang a bit sharp. Too eager to get his health-insurance measure through the Massachusetts legislature, he acquiesced to excessive regulation. Don’t ask me, ask Teddy Kennedy — who liked the outcome. Bad sign. Now, as a presidential candidate, Romney’s ideas on market reforms and federalism have drawn fire from John Edwards (“it will make a dysfunctional health care system even worse”) and Obama adviser Stuart Altman (“[Romney’s] run away from the Massachusetts plan”).

That’s a start.

— John Hood is president of the John Locke Foundation.


John McClaughry

Mitt Romney’s Health Care Vision is widely shared by almost every policy advocate not wedded to the government-run alternative. Indeed, every ingredient in it has long been on the agenda of Republican leaders in Congress and free market think tanks — including mine, dating back to 1993.

To his credit, Romney was the first governor to address the tax inequities in health insurance, and devise a scheme (“The Connector”) to allow employees to claim deductibility for individual premium payments through simplified employer cafeteria plans.

A major sticky wicket in Romney’s plan is his reliance on state insurance market reform - rarely if ever achieved, and not easily forced by federal pressure. The plan is also vague about the consequences facing impecunious non-participants seeking medical care in his “no free rider” participation system.

Romney’s surprising advocacy of coupling HSAs with even zero deductible insurance would reverse a hopeful trend toward reducing the role of third party payers for normal health maintenance.

That said, Romney’s articulate advocacy of this comprehensive package will add a strong voice to the pro-market side of a debate in which most other Republicans, including President Bush, have fared poorly. That’s a big plus.

— John McClaughry is president of the Ethan Allen Institute, a free market think tank in Vermont.


Robert E. Moffit
Romney’s health-care-reform proposal is a refreshing reaffirmation of federalism. At the federal level, he proposes a universal tax deduction for all health-care expenses. Every person would be able to get the same federal tax deduction for health insurance, for example, regardless of where they got it; health insurance would then be personal and individuals would be able to carry their health insurance from job to job. Romney would also strengthen health savings accounts by eliminating today’s minimum deductible requirement.

These are major and welcome changes. But the real heavy lifting would be up to the states. The Romney plan provides federal incentives for states to reform their insurance markets in ways that would reduce premium costs and expand private coverage options for consumers.

He leaves it to the states to determine how best to work out all the mind-numbing details, ranging from creating new risk pooling arrangements to drafting new underwriting rules. But under the plan, state officials would “earn” federal funds to help low income people get private coverage by making their insurance markets more affordable and consumer-friendly.

Romney’s got this exactly right: Essentially, he’s using existing government funds to do get the uninsured out of the hospital emergency rooms and into private health plans.

Romney’s national tax reform proposal would unify the tax treatment of health care for every American, while his encouragement of innovative state officials would respect the diversity of the states. After all, what works best for Massachusetts may not work well for Mississippi.

— Robert E. Moffit is director of the Center for Health Policy Studies at the Heritage Foundation.


Sally C. Pipes

Mitt Romney launched his “extreme health-care makeover” on Friday, outlining his federal health-care agenda to the Florida Medical Association. The docs, who are calling for Romney’s individual mandate at the national level, must have been disappointed at the former governor’s reversal. Out of Massachusetts and into the primary states, he’s jettisoned the harsh individual mandate for calls for a gentler adjustment to the tax code, deregulation, and a crack down on medical malpractice. To this, I’d say welcome home, but that would require that we know his permanent and fixed address.

Meanwhile, to quote Bob Dylan, his past is close behind. Back in Massachusetts, a slew of new bureaucrats in well-paid jobs are filling in the details of his healthcare handiwork. Despite claims to the contrary, Romney’s legacy to Massachusetts is a more regulated health environment. The alleged market maker — The Commonwealth Connector — issued regulations that dictate the design of health plans, declaring that as many as 200,000 people who were already insured didn’t have the right kind, subjecting them to a fine or forcing them to purchase new insurance. Regulators exempted 20 percent of the uninsured from the mandate. This puts at risk a financial and philosophical pillar of the plan: a redirection of funds from the state’s charity care pool to the subsidized insurance market. Stay tuned to this event, a smash up is on the way.

— Sally C. Pipes is president & CEO of the Pacific Research Institute. She is author of
Miracle Cure: How to Solve America’s Health Care Crisis and Why Canada Isn’t the Answer. She advises the Giuliani campaign.


Grace-Marie Turner
Governor Romney is the most battle-tested of all of the Republican presidential candidates on health care issues. The proposal he initiated for the commonwealth of Massachusetts went through the maw of the legislative process, and he necessarily had to make many compromises with an overwhelmingly Democratic legislature in order to get some version of his plan passed. But many people, especially conservatives, are troubled about the over-reach of state control that has been the result of Massachusetts’s health-care legislation.

Now that he is running for president, Romney has an opportunity to talk to voters about his ideas, his true convictions, and the lessons learned from his experience in Massachusetts. To his credit, his latest proposal does not call for an individual mandate that would require people to purchase health insurance. He also clearly understands the importance of having the federal government address the tax treatment of health insurance: He recommends changes that would allow insurance to be portable and not tied to the workplace, and he also would provide new subsidies to the uninsured to purchase private insurance. He also understands, as a former governor, giving the states more authority and resources to improve health care delivery. It is important for Romney to reassure primary voters about his true convictions and to prove that he will stick with the free-market convictions he articulated before the AMA, that he has learned the consequences of over-compromising, and that he truly is on the side of competition and consumer choice.

— Grace-Marie Turner is president of the Galen Institute.


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To: deebee1
I can only point you to the actual plan and the links to help educate yourself on true facts not propaganda or spin. If someone comes back with the same argument even after I have provided facts to the contrary on links and such, then I question their sincerity in truly wanting to learn the truth rather than just bashing another candidate.

If you were being honest, you'd go back and see that your original post to me was the one that started off on the wrong foot with its flip, rude and inaccurate characterizations. If you can't take it, then don't dish it out. I am not here to coddle people or insult them, but I will point out when people are lying about or misconstruing Romney's positions because I know he is the best thing to come along for the GOP in a very long time. We haven't had anyone with his communication skills, intelligence and optimistic energy to carry the conservative mantle since Reagan.

81 posted on 08/28/2007 1:09:54 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: neverdem

Mitt Romney - purveyor of socialism.


82 posted on 08/28/2007 1:16:17 PM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: MojoWire
One more thing: I saw Ann Colter on the OReilly show tonight (Michelle Malkin substituted) and Colter indicated that Romney was probably her top choice, her favorite candidate, among the current crop of GOP hopefuls.

Now I supposed these Romney haters will accuse Ann Colter of not being "conservative enough".

Interesting. I guess that makes Ann "not a real conservative" or better yet, one of those normally intelligent people who have been shockingly fooled by the greatest scam artist ever.

Cue the violins for the posts saying "I thought so highly of her and I guess I was wrong."

83 posted on 08/28/2007 1:16:32 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: deebee1

oooops. sorry. bears repeating. but not four times. that’s never happened before. twice, yes. but four times? no. must be the lunar eclipse.


84 posted on 08/28/2007 1:17:22 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: neverdem

Will his plan put a halt to the out of control costs of health care and health care costs so average working middle class folk can afford them??


85 posted on 08/28/2007 1:20:43 PM PDT by MrLee
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To: neverdem

Here are a few ideas.....

1. Remove Health Care Benefits from the pre-tax status.

2. Get businesses completely out of providing health care benefits. Let the buyer shop for the best deal, because....

3. When the buy has to pay for everything out of his pocket, he will choose wisely, look for the best deals and not waste money.

4. Cap medical malpractice at one year’s salary of the offending nurse/nurses or doctor/doctors for “ordinary” malfeasance, 3 times a year’s salary for death or permanent total disability. (ex. A surgeon botches an operation and leaves a man with a bad scar. The man could only receive $240,000 in the settlement.) This would bring insurance rates down dramatically, as doctors and nurses had to pay less in insurance fees.

5. Get the government out of the medical business. Government does NOTHING efficiently. SO ANY government involvement only drives up the cost.


86 posted on 08/28/2007 1:24:06 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: sevenbak
Those kind of numbers are near impossible in regular campaign financing. We’ve already seen candidates drop out due to money. While Mitt is a great fund raiser, he has other resources that he might pull from. I see nothing wrong with that, especially if it means defeating the Clinton machine,

I might add he has to spend more to get the name recognition that Giuliani and Fred have due to 911 and a Hollywood/Senate career. If the second tier candidates who have the same problem as Mitt had his resources they then could have moved up into the first tier. The unfortunate fact of campaigning in the 21st century is that it takes money to get your message out.

87 posted on 08/28/2007 1:33:24 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: neverdem
The US is already in the "hole" to the tune of about 30 Trillion bucks for all the entitlements currently on the books.

So Health Care for everyone, it's OK it's free, shouldn't be that big of a deal.

< /sarcasm >

88 posted on 08/28/2007 1:37:28 PM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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To: redgirlinabluestate; TAdams8591
I will point out when people are lying about or misconstruing Romney's positions because I know he is the best thing to come along for the GOP in a very long time. We haven't had anyone with his communication skills, intelligence and optimistic energy to carry the conservative mantle since Reagan.

BUMP to that. Well said!

89 posted on 08/28/2007 1:42:02 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: spunkets

The courts will not let you change the system. Only certain citizens have their credit affected. Jose, however, spends 3 weeks in your hospital and moves on after changing his name to Juan. Their aren’t enough people left to “affect their credit”. If you aren’t insured, 5000/day is simply beyond reason and you go bankrupt.


90 posted on 08/28/2007 1:57:14 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: MojoWire
You vote for who you think has charisma, good looks, and personality and we'll vote for who we think can "possibly" bring this nation back from the brink of socialism.

We're in a real catch-22. We have no doubt whatsoever that you're going to vote for the "best of the worst" from the GOP, and have already stated that we'll do no such thing under any circumstances.

We need somebody who doesn't bend with the wind and who isn't a "yes man". We need somebody who isn't a professional con man and a vote panderer. We need somebody who's willing to forgo the distraction of what everybody calls "issues" to actually uphold the United States Constitution and permit this country to operate the way it was intended.

Unless something changes, the outcome in 2008 will not be good.
91 posted on 08/28/2007 1:57:38 PM PDT by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
"The courts will not let you change the system."

The court's Constitutional power does not include the installation of systems. THeir power does include judging and eforcing contractual obligations, which is what paying an emergency room bill amounts to.

"Only certain citizens have their credit affected. Jose, however, spends 3 weeks in your hospital and moves on after changing his name to Juan."

Yeah, I already covered that. I do not want to pay into a pool that covers people that continuously eat up the money with their own fool behavior, or into a system that upholds a high priced monopoly. Nor do I desire to follow nanny rules, that are based on the idea that all are created equal and equivalent to the least common denominator of idiot.

"If you aren’t insured, 5000/day is simply beyond reason and you go bankrupt."

You're right. $5000 is beyond reason and it's ridiculous for most things. I'll never seek out services like that, unless I choose to be insured. The monopoly should be broken, so that there are lower cost alternatives. Anything else is authoritarian socialism.

92 posted on 08/28/2007 2:12:00 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: spunkets

I am glad that you won’t seek services like that. When you are unconcious, I will just leave you there? When you are beyond “seeking” what will the courts require? Bingo, you go to the hospital nearby, and get fleeced.


93 posted on 08/28/2007 3:03:24 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
"I am glad that you won’t seek services like that. "

I indicated that I'd pay for them if I did, as I have in the past. "When you are unconcious, I will just leave you there?"Fine with me.

"When you are beyond “seeking” what will the courts require? Bingo, you go to the hospital nearby, and get fleeced."

No. I'll take care of myself.

94 posted on 08/28/2007 3:17:15 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Oh and by the way, the courts seldom enforce the Constitution, we are ruled by unimpeachable political appointees in robes. The Constitution, however clear, does not rule the day. You really think a lib, that wants to engineer society, cares what the Constitution says? Scream about Constitutional authority all you want, we are in a brave new world of the unreal.


95 posted on 08/28/2007 3:58:56 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
"Interesting. I guess that makes Ann "not a real conservative" or better yet, one of those normally intelligent people who have been shockingly fooled by the greatest scam artist ever.

Cue the violins for the posts saying "I thought so highly of her and I guess I was wrong."

Also a very good post. : ) What will some of the posters on FR do if Ann, FR's mascot so to speak, ends up endorsing Romney?????? The thought is worth another : ).

96 posted on 08/28/2007 4:30:29 PM PDT by TAdams8591 ( Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag. Mitt Romney for president in 2008! : ))
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah; redgirlinabluestate
RG, your posts just keep getting better and better! : )

You too C_of_D. : )

97 posted on 08/28/2007 4:32:45 PM PDT by TAdams8591 ( Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag. Mitt Romney for president in 2008! : ))
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To: redgirlinabluestate

It was a homerun of a post, LOL! I’ve done that, but I seem to particularly like posting triples. : )


98 posted on 08/28/2007 4:36:38 PM PDT by TAdams8591 ( Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag. Mitt Romney for president in 2008! : ))
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To: spunkets
No. They are sent a bill that they must pay.

Thanks for the help.

It's like banging your head against the wall, arguing with Romney bashers.

Maybe he's not perfect, but he's put forth some interesting proposals that, at the very least, would encourage the non-insured people to get health insurance.

Also, I can respect the fact that Romney has moved more toward absolute pro-life as he got older.

So have I. So did Ronald Reagan.

I'd MUCH rather have a candidate who once waffled slightly on the matter, and now sees the truth, than a candidate who claims to be pro-life but then votes for every single pro-abortion legislation to come along.

Romney's record in Mass. from 1994 thru 2002 is pretty strong on pro-life matters, from what I've read.

99 posted on 08/28/2007 6:32:05 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: deebee1

Romney wanted the self-insured option — the democratic legislature overrode him on that.

Mitt Romney relaxed the strict mandates on insurance carriers so they can offer very affordable plans to this high risk pool of uninsured residents. Your income dictates what you will pay for a premium, so if you make x amount and can’t afford $6K a year for health insurance, then the state will subsidize the amount of assistance you do need to pay the premium.

Your statement about Romney’s logic is completely false. We in MA pay over $1 billion a year to bail out hospitals for the free care they provide uninsured individuals. Those costs are not fixed, they are completely out of control and the price tag gets higher every year. He is significantly saving costs and tax dollars by enacting these reforms.

Romney’s goal is to take a program which provided a blank check to bail out hospitals which provide medical treatment to those “personal responsibility” folks you like to refer to, and instead using those funds for a program that will work, where costs are contained, and where private health insurance carriers are relieved of strict and costly mandates.

Oh and a note to those who chose to go without insurance -— please get the words “no insurance, please don’t treat me” stamped to your forehead so if you drop and can’t communicate, taxpayers in your state don’t end up footing the bill for your treatment.


100 posted on 08/28/2007 6:40:58 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
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