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Half a loaf is better than none, I guess.
1 posted on 08/25/2007 7:53:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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One domino at a time ......
They marched and recieved backlash and now the dummies are planning on marching again LOL.
In all honesty I had a live and let live attitude before the last round of marches so did some of my friends. Not anymore though, Don`t sneak into my country then demand to be accepted.... Not gonna happen.


2 posted on 08/25/2007 7:57:41 PM PDT by BhaktaSteve
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As with most things political in NJ … lata’ talk, little do. Trust me, illegal aliens are safe in NJ.


3 posted on 08/25/2007 7:58:57 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We are now fighting the war from within and the noose is slowly tightening around the proverbial necks of illegal aliens and their supporters. Those groups attmepting to defend illegals by going to court will be spending increasing amounts of money for their unjust cause. Communities drain the illegal support groups coffers dry by increasing the pressure with strict law enforcement including the following federal law citizens can enforce with the RICO section.


Federal Immigration and Nationality Act

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens Enforcement RICO —Citizen Recourse Tax Crimes Comment

Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii) "Any person who . . . encourages or induces an illegal alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each illegal alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."

Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

· assists an illegal alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or · encourages that illegal alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or · knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions. ·

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an illegal alien for a fee, knowing the illegal alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an illegal alien knowing that the illegal alien is unauthorized to work.

It is unlawful to hire any individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days' advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. "Day laborers" or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verification of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the illegal alien labor.

The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer's work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual's accent or foreign appearance.

Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.

It is illegal for nonprofit or religious organizations to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, regardless of claims that their convictions require them to assist illegal aliens. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any illegal alien who is in the United States in violation of law. Harboring means any conduct that tends to substantially facilitate an alien to remain in the U.S. illegally. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien's illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien's entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that "encouraging" includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years' imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years' imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the illegal alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years' imprisonment.

Enforcement

A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time, and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third-party complaints that have a reasonable probability of validity. Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.

State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient. Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer's consent to enter workplaces or residences. Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or used as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.

RICO —Citizen Recourse

Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, and can include nonprofit associations.

Tax Crimes

Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or Social Security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or Social Security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions. U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than three employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice. In addition to the federal statutes summarized, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.

Comment:

A comment and a published quote by Robert Gaffney, Attorney and County Executive of Suffolk County, LI, NY:

The statutory foundation of United States immigration law has always been the jurisdiction of the federal government, Congress and the federal courts. The preeminent laws concerning the employment of illegal aliens are found in the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. §~ 1101-1503), as amended by the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 CIRCA).

The law states it is a crime to assist an illegal alien who lacks employment authorization by referring him to an employer, or by acting as his or her employer, or as an agent for an employer. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(1)(A) (Lexis 1997). Furthermore, it is unlawful to hire an individual for employment without complying with the employment eligibility requirements for every person hired. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324a(a)(l)(B) (Lexis 1997). Moreover, conduct tending substantially to facilitate illegal aliens remaining in the United States illegally, where there is knowledge or a reckless disregard of an illegal alien s unlawful status, is a crime, with escalating penalties, encompassed within the provisions of 1324. 8 U.S.C.S. § 1324(a)(l)(A)(iii) (Lexis 1997); United States v. Kim. 193 F-3d 567 (2d Cir. 1999), are considered employees for purposes of immigration law.
7 posted on 08/25/2007 8:03:08 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
a serious crime.

I'd say that boarders on half a slice instead of a half a loaf. Define serious crime!

10 posted on 08/25/2007 8:08:14 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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...contact federal immigration authorities after arresting an illegal immigrant for a serious crime.

Like killing an American during a hit and run?

12 posted on 08/25/2007 8:10:55 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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One definition of a Conservative is that he is a Liberal who was mugged last night.


13 posted on 08/25/2007 8:12:10 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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What is their definition of a serious crime?


14 posted on 08/25/2007 8:23:04 PM PDT by beaversmom
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about time we start standing up for ourselves.


15 posted on 08/25/2007 8:23:36 PM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.)
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Half a loaf is better than none, I guess.

It is just a damn trajedy that people have to die to wake up those who should already be enforcing existing immigration laws.

16 posted on 08/25/2007 8:24:59 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid...even by congressional standards.)
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Let's see, just what would constitute a "serious" crime: rape, sodomy, attempted murder; arson; kidnapping; serial killing, unless one is not an illegal alien, then it's a vicious thought crime, drawing a gun when one is 5 or aiming a squirt gun.

Any violent crime is a "serious" crime, Ms. Attorney General.

18 posted on 08/25/2007 8:43:11 PM PDT by zerosix
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I’ll believe it when I see it. I really think that there’s an unspoken understanding between some local governments and federal officials to wink at illegal immigration, while talking the talk for public consumption(and that much, only when forced to by outrageous circumstance). For the benefit of us regular shmucks, they blowhard, and when we see nothing happening, they pass the buck back and forth. They won’t do their jobs, they won’t let anyone else do the job-they don’t want the job done.


19 posted on 08/25/2007 8:44:49 PM PDT by mrsmel (Free Ramos and Compean! Duncan Hunter for President!)
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21 posted on 08/25/2007 8:54:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1886620/posts


25 posted on 08/25/2007 9:08:05 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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Immigration enforcement has now been subcontracted out to Soprano and DiMeo Security, North Caldwell.


28 posted on 08/25/2007 9:48:16 PM PDT by RichInOC (...oops, did I say that out loud? Bad Rich. BAD Rich.)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com this tantamount to an admission of guilt by the state, and will play well in the hands of the victims families when the law suits commence...
29 posted on 08/26/2007 4:35:29 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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I’ve said it all along: the answer to the illegal alien invasion will come from the bottom up. There is obviously no will among the Americans or the democrats in Washington to do a damned thing about this invasion. We can only mobilize as we did in June, just so often. We can only twist arms in DC just so often. We and much more easily grab our local guys and pressure them. Yup, this will be solved in Hazleton and little Texas towns, not Washington.


30 posted on 08/26/2007 4:48:34 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Liberals are "American aliens." They were born IN America but they are not OF America.)
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ping


31 posted on 08/26/2007 4:49:50 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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Words the fuzz-faced (and fuzz-brained) New Jersey governor said on the day their families buried three up-and-coming Newark students, brutally tortured with machetes, then shot execution-style by savage illegal immigrants:

"This is about a failure of us to be inclusive and holistically look to bring everyone into our society."

This know-nothing Dum-Dim is worried more about his political ambitions than the citizenry's safety and security. Dumbo Corzio cannot fathom the student slaughters are his failure; his failure to protect law-abiding, innocent citizens as he is constitutionally charged to do. Remains to be seen how many other citizens the imbecilic Governor will sacrifice to his "holistic" solutions before he gets the point.

Here's a description of the Newark tortures the lamebrain govenor says is the citizenry's fault.

NEWARK FIENDS FIRST FAILED AT SEX ATTACK: REPORT
By AUSTIN FENNER NY POST August 23, 2007

The thugs who shot four college students in Newark reportedly preceded their sick attack by trying to sexually assault their two female victims. The group of six assailants - who shot two men and a woman dead and wounded another woman - failed in their attempt at a sexual attack, and then decided to kill their victims, according to 1010 WINS radio. Six suspects have now been charged in the Aug. 4 atrocity, in which the victims were blasted execution-style.

Yesterday, a family member of one of the slain victims described the level of savagery of the attack.

He said the thugs used a machete to hack their victims. "They cut my niece's face off," said John McClain, who is Iofemi Hightower's great-uncle, and the chaplain of the Newark Police Department. "They cut her from cheek to cheek. They left her head hanging."

McClain said the mortician had to work for three days to put his grand-niece's face back together. "Most people couldn't tell, when he was done, but the family could tell," he said.--SNIP--

36 posted on 08/26/2007 8:05:30 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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This announcement is a lot of B.S. What they're simply trying to do here is pass off the responsibility for this perp to the Feds.

While this would be fine, it really obscures a much bigger issue in this particular case. Why was this f#%&er -- who as an illegal alien WAS A TEXTBOOK CASE OF A "FLIGHT RISK" -- out on bail in the first place?

The prosecutor and/or judge in the previous case need to be fired, and then prosecuted on three counts criminally negligent homicide.

41 posted on 08/26/2007 7:45:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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