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When will we allow death with dignity? (Barf Alert!)
Sacramento Bee, ^ | 8/17/07 | Anita Creamer

Posted on 08/18/2007 11:17:14 AM PDT by wagglebee

Slowly but surely, the political and emotional conversation about the issue of life has begun to shift from the realm of birth control to death control.

But maybe the fundamental question remains the same: Who's in charge of our lives, anyway?

It's the baby boomers' fault, of course: That generation, still largely concerned with aging cute and looking young, is only now beginning to comprehend what it means to grow old with dignity -- and to die with dignity.

We like to kid ourselves that we'll be able to control what happens.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


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KEYWORDS: anitacreamer; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; prolife
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It would be a shame for good people trying to do the best they can for themselves and their loved ones if the debate over the end of life were to devolve into the polarized deep freeze that's long characterized the debate over the beginning of life.

The culture of death does not understand that the pro-life movement cares about ALL life.

1 posted on 08/18/2007 11:17:18 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 08/18/2007 11:17:51 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 08/18/2007 11:18:17 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Who's in charge of our lives

The state determines death. Dignity is an interesting word and is almost always misused and abused, including in this article.

4 posted on 08/18/2007 11:19:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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5 posted on 08/18/2007 11:21:54 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
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The culture of death does not understand that the pro-life movement cares about ALL life.
Death penalty?
6 posted on 08/18/2007 11:22:32 AM PDT by ketsu
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It's the baby boomers' fault, of course: That generation, still largely concerned with aging cute and looking young, is only now beginning to comprehend what it means to grow old with dignity -- and to die with dignity.

What is the baby boomer's fault? Laws against "assisted suicide" and "mercy killing"? I am no lawyer, but my guess is that those acts were illegal long before the baby boomers came along.

7 posted on 08/18/2007 11:25:10 AM PDT by Logophile
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8 posted on 08/18/2007 11:29:07 AM PDT by OCC
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What kind of “dignity” is it when you are yanked from your “mother’s” womb and your brains are sucked out before you are thrown in the dumpster as “hazardous waste?” Gimme a break Creamer baby. You should be writing for the “Home and Garden” section and leave the important stuff to the grownups.


9 posted on 08/18/2007 11:36:22 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (When you start seeing FR as a "hate site," it's time for you to go to rehab.)
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Having witnessed the cancer deaths of three close relatives in home hospice care this article makes me angry and directly contradicts my personal experience.

Maybe the author’s experience is different but in my experience the argument that people who are terminally ill simply want to be put out of their misery is a lie.

After all medical options have been exhausted and the only things left are pain control, nutrition, hydration and bowl movements, terribly sick people still struggle to survive. People have an incredible will to live. They struggle for their last breath and show amazing strength and courage in their efforts to hang on. Maybe it’s just the cussed nature of my family and the people I call my friends but I’ve never known anyone who was ready to die.

Death is about loosing control. It is an inherently undignified process. The best that anyone can hope to do is to make it as easy as possible and sometimes there’s not much that can be done.

Personally, if I ever reach a point where medical treatment no longer has any conceivable benefit and have a choice I will die in home hospice care - in my own home, in my own bed, surrounded by people I love. But I would never consider suicide, “assisted” or otherwise.

10 posted on 08/18/2007 11:47:49 AM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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11 posted on 08/18/2007 11:56:10 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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The state RECOGNIZES death, it doesn’t determine it. Common sense acting through the art of medical science has determined what is death, the state has merely followed their lead in recognizing it.

“Death with dignity” is just a code phrase for suicide. Death, by its very nature has no dignity—and that’s why Jesus died to kill it... “The death of death” as one Puritan put it.

Our society was built with the Christian assumption that God creates, and ends life. It’s no surprise at all that the same folks that say we create life, and can “stop” its creation through abortion and/or the pill any time, will say we control our death.

In answer to the first question of this article: “Whose life is it anyway?”

Its God’s life, even that of your own.... and you and your State keep your hands off it!


12 posted on 08/18/2007 12:18:38 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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This has been my experience as well.


13 posted on 08/18/2007 12:19:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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It’s murder; plain and simple.


14 posted on 08/18/2007 12:34:51 PM PDT by freekitty
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15 posted on 08/18/2007 12:35:39 PM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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And so you find yourself contemplating quality of life instead of quantity of years.

Very easy to do when you aren't the one who is sick or when you want for Granny to be dead already (uh, I mean to go peacefully to sleep for her own sake). In a perfect world only made up of morally upstanding people who have nothing but loving relationships without a me agenda or anything to gain then MAYBE this woman would have an argument worth making......actually no, but at least I could then understand someone making it. Culture of death.
16 posted on 08/18/2007 12:39:49 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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The more I run into people like this author, the more I wish they would get in line for “death with dignity” at the earliest possible opportunity.


17 posted on 08/18/2007 12:41:07 PM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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There’s no denying that the treatments for some terminal disases (most notably cancer) leave a lot to be desired. And it’s understandable that many patients want the pain and indignity to be over. If I were in their shoes, I’d probably have thoughts. But the solution is to improve the treatment, not kill the patient.


18 posted on 08/18/2007 12:44:04 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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What this woman and her ilk will never acknowledge is their concern that their parent’s/grandparent’s money will run out before they die.


19 posted on 08/18/2007 12:45:51 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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The left has been so focused on the hedonistic pursuit of personal pleasure that they have redefined dignity to simply mean the absence of discomfort.


20 posted on 08/18/2007 12:48:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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