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Pray to Allah, Dutch bishop suggests
Cztholic World News ^ | August 14, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 08/15/2007 11:29:04 AM PDT by Turret Gunner A20

Amsterdam, A Dutch Catholic bishop has suggested that Christians should refer to God as "Allah" to promote better relations with Muslims.

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To: wastedyears

the pope needs to rein in his galloping idiot


21 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:09 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Geez, what a jackass! How did this jerk ever get a big hat?


22 posted on 08/15/2007 12:20:57 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Turret Gunner A20
This Bishop is obviously an idiot who hasn't read the bible or the Koran.

"Allah" is not a word meaning "God" nor is it the same deity.

"Allah" is the name of the Islamic "god"; the arabic word for god is "ilah"

The true God of the bible is "Yahweh" which does not translate to "Allah", just as the name "Peter" does not translate to "Anthony" in any language.

The God of the bible is a loving God, The Ilah of the Koran is a murdering, hateful 'ilah", the complete opposite, which means it is SATAN.

This "Bishop" needs to have his head examined. Plus he needs to re-read the bible about caving in to cares of the world, and abandoning faith in the WORD.

23 posted on 08/15/2007 12:21:14 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Apostate.


24 posted on 08/15/2007 12:21:36 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: I still care

Yup.


25 posted on 08/15/2007 12:22:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Turret Gunner A20

...And, I’m well aware that certain ancient eastern rites call God Allah and have done so for centuries prior to the birth of mohammed the child rapist. But the bishop didn’t say that we should call God Allah to get closer to Eastern Catholics...he said to do to get closer to islam.


26 posted on 08/15/2007 12:23:46 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: pgkdan
"And, I’m well aware that certain ancient eastern rites call God Allah and have done so for centuries prior to the birth of mohammed the child rapist."

That is absolutely NOT true. What it is, is Islamic propaganda.

As for those eastern Christians using the word "Allah" they have no choice. It keeps their heads attached. In their hearts They pray to Yahweh, and that's what counts.

28 posted on 08/15/2007 12:27:28 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Turret Gunner A20

This was news but threads after the first few are only confirmation.


29 posted on 08/15/2007 12:27:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

You’d think people in Europe would have learned that appeasing a group of madmen doesn’t work. It didn’t work with the Nazis and it won’t work with the Muzzies. Sadly at the Europe is appeasing them, Europe as we know it won’t last another 50 years. It will eventually become a third world hole.

Lest we think we are getting off easy, we need to pay attention to these lessons to. Misguided multi-cultism and a desire to not offend can destroy a culture. We very well may be hispanic in a few generations.


30 posted on 08/15/2007 12:32:21 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Just like the Ape Shift and the deceitful Calormenes in C.S. Lewis' The Last Battle, convincing the Narnians that Tash and Aslan were in fact the same...Tashlan.

The West is calling for the Muslim Allah, and he will soon be arrive, if he is not here already.

31 posted on 08/15/2007 12:45:36 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * U.Va. Engineering '09 * Friends Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat * Fred in 2008)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

“Islam: What the West Needs to Know”

~ Robert Spencer, Walid Shoebat, Bat Yeor, and Serge Trifkovic (DVD - 2007) Available @ Amazon.com

This amazing video helps explain how unproductive appeasment is with Islam.


32 posted on 08/15/2007 12:55:22 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Canada the Great)
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To: I still care
I think if God had wanted to be called Allah he would have told Moses.

But you could just as truthfully say that if God had wanted to be called "God" he would have told Moses. The word "God" is not in the original Bible no more than word "Allah" is.

The Arabic word "Allah" is not found in the original language of the Bible because the Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek. The English word "God" is not found in the original language of the Bible because the Bible was written in Hebrew and Greek.

The use of the word "Allah"by Arabic speakers is no more illegitimate or displeasing to God than the use of the word "God' is by English speakers. What God is concerned about is what people believe/teach/practice about him no matter what language they use.

That said, the bishop's suggestion to Dutch speakers seems obviously to be bringing legitimacy to the Islamic concept of Allah and is nothing more than typical PC dingbat multicultural mush.

33 posted on 08/15/2007 1:10:57 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Turret Gunner A20

“Allah” is just another name of the Zoroastrian entity known as “Ahriman”.

The Koran was written by the “Prophet” Mohammed, out of nonsense that was put in his head by Ahriman.

Ahriman was the prototype of the supernatural being we know as “Satan” or the Devil. Right down to the appearance: pointed tail, horned head, goatee beard, cloven hooves, the trident, and entirely red.


34 posted on 08/15/2007 1:14:12 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never attribute to ignorance that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

If the head-choppers have their way the bishop will hear the word “allah” in the phrase “allahu akhbar” as the machete is brought to his Christian neck.


35 posted on 08/15/2007 1:21:25 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: Turret Gunner A20
Also from this article...

Bishop Muskens has a history of creating occasional controversy within the Church. He has broken with Vatican leadership to endorse the use of condoms as a means of preventing the spread of AIDS, and in 2006 he traveled to Uganda to endorse the work of a group called Stop AIDS Now, which emphasized condom distribution.

My guess is that this Bishop is about as Catholic as Ru-Paul.
36 posted on 08/15/2007 1:24:20 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off a leftist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

What was he implying? A prediction or an exhortation?

If the latter, he should be defrocked, sat facing backwards on a mule and sent to Mecca to live.


37 posted on 08/15/2007 1:25:58 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: CanaGuy
“Islam: What the West Needs to Know”

Walid Shoebat is an amazing witness for the Lord.

38 posted on 08/15/2007 1:35:30 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Build the fence. Enforce the law.)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I understand that “Allah” is just Arabic for “God” ... but why would I pray in Arabic? I don’t speak Arabic, and generally I prefer to understand myself when I pray.

Also - considering the geopolitical implications of all Christians now substituting the word “allah” for “God” in their prayers ... I’d rather (1) not get hassled by Homeland Security in an airport if I decide to pray that my plane doesn’t crash, and (2) not allow a victory, even if hollow, to those who have been trying to convert us “infidels” to allah-worship by detonating themselves near civilians.

H


39 posted on 08/15/2007 1:45:58 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Don't worry. History will get it right and we'll both be dead." - George W. Bush to Karl Rove)
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To: Turret Gunner A20

Its retarded PC freaks like this guy that make me happy that my ancestors left Holland some 100 years ago.


40 posted on 08/15/2007 1:50:23 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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