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Do liberals raise their kids this way?
Human Events Online ^ | August 13, 2007 | Katie O'Malley

Posted on 08/13/2007 6:03:35 AM PDT by hilaryrhymeswithrich

As the immigration debate rages and becomes increasingly polarized, I can not help but wonder if liberals parent their children with the same consequence-free approach they would like our society to take in confronting illegal immigration.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: children; illegalimmigration; immigration; liberals; morristown; raisingchildren; values
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

Liberals are doormats. They lack self-esteem and will give anything and say anything to be liked or at least to perceive being liked.

In the political arena, this behavior produces the welfare state, unchecked illegal immigration and dangerously naive pacifism.

In the home, it produces undisciplined and unruly children whose parents are afraid of being the “bad guy” even for a few minutes and when it will produce long-term benefits for the child.


21 posted on 08/13/2007 6:35:06 AM PDT by relictele
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

The ones in my neighborhood don’t raise “her” kids and there is no “their” to it.


22 posted on 08/13/2007 6:35:25 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (concerning His promise.....not willing that any (of whom?) should perish but that all...)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

Yes, absolutely.

The concept of “consequences of choices” just isn’t in their mindset.

Someone gets caught for drunk driving, and, if they’re rich or powerful enough, “it’s a disease, they can’t help it”.

It comes from their absolute petrifying fear of being “discriminatory” - even to the point of discriminating between destruction and constructive behavior.


23 posted on 08/13/2007 6:36:54 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

That was EXACTLY the topic of conversation with a liberal relative:

“He can’t help it, it’s a disease.”


24 posted on 08/13/2007 6:39:23 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: swatbuznik

When I chided a relative’s child on some bratty behaviour, she looked at me with an eyeroll and said, “I’m OCD.” Not only has it become an excuse for the parents, it’s an excuse the kids readily pull out, too.

Odd how, when I was a kid, being made to cut a switch from a tree instantly cured a lot of these “diseases”. heheh


25 posted on 08/13/2007 6:39:43 AM PDT by nodumbblonde
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

Of course they do! That’s how the US got to be such a mess: Make rules, but don’t enforce them. Whenever somebody breaks the rule, just make a new rule which allows for bad behavior. Check out how your local school handles bad behavior, you have another example.


26 posted on 08/13/2007 6:43:06 AM PDT by whipitgood (Let's burn some MEXICAN flags!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I’m glad you mentioned the Spock movement. That guy was dead wrong about everything!

Since Merv passed away yesterday, I have been remembering my mom’s devotion to that afternoon show, the one with Arthur Treacher as sidekick. Merv interviewed actor James Mason and his actress wife about their kids. The kids called them James and Pamela, so that they wouldn’t be threatened by authority figures. My dear mom went ballistic. Fast forward 20 yrs. and I end up marrying a guy who calls his parents Jim and Rita. Yep. Same ideas.

BTW, my in-laws were schoolteachers and utterly selfish union flunkies. The R word had a “career” long before women’s lib, and so my husband was raised by his very old-fashioned Italian immigrant grandparents. The difference between the generations in that family are astounding. My FIL was a nice guy, but a complete mouse, born without a drop of testosterone. My husband is the exact opposite, and has a real problem with women who are like his mother.
Spock and his contemporaries messed up that family, but good.

27 posted on 08/13/2007 6:44:24 AM PDT by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

Yes they do. My pet peeve is being in a checkout line and Mom is trying to control her screeching little “angel” with, “Johnny, you need to stop that. Thank you.” Needless to say, the screeching continues.


28 posted on 08/13/2007 6:50:17 AM PDT by NRA1995 (To Congress and Mr. President: This is OUR country, and don't you forget it!)
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To: rockinqsranch

As I have pointed out in the past, I believe strongly that the Dr. Spock method of rearing children prevelant in the 50’s and 60’s is quite responsible for the increase in the sheer idiocy we face in our society today........

We are on the same page.

The phrase “Do your own thing, as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone” did not disappear after the sixties. It took up residence and prospered in the “new culture”.

And the harm and misery that was heaped on others along the way—is beyond measure!


29 posted on 08/13/2007 6:51:57 AM PDT by Grateful One
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To: NRA1995

Even parents who discipline their children would be reluctant to do so “in the checkout line”, mostly because some busybody “liberal” would report them to CPS.

However, if you discipline at home, you don’t have many “checkout line” incidents.


30 posted on 08/13/2007 6:52:20 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

My lib neighbor’s kids and dogs are constantly tearing up my yard - and worse, in the latter case.

They just let them run rampant, and then just complain our neighborhood is just not, and I quote, “progressive enough”.


31 posted on 08/13/2007 6:55:42 AM PDT by P.O.E. (School's Out. Drive Safely)
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To: Grateful One

The point about Dr. Spock is that most people think I’m talking about StarTrek when I bring up the name, and are confused. If I thought enough people would be interested, I’d link some history.


32 posted on 08/13/2007 6:57:18 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich

Just by looking around me (I live in an extremely liberal part of the country) I would give a resounding YES.

susie


33 posted on 08/13/2007 7:08:32 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think eventually these kids will blame their parents. And they should.
susie


34 posted on 08/13/2007 7:09:23 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: swatbuznik
My liberal sister adoped a three-year-old girl when she was in her early 40s, after having said for years that she never, never wanted to have children. <>While my brother-in-law tried to use reasonable discipline, my sister nearly collapsed any time the child displayed any sort of unhappiness. She obsessed endlessly over the child's emotional state. The little girl had absolutely everything in the way of clothes, toys, and other possessions.

By the time she was an adolescent, she was nearly impossible to live with. They had to send her away to a distant state to live with a cousin with whom she got along to finish high school.

In the new high school, she met a drug-using young man, whom she eventually had a child with. They got married, had two more children. He is in and out of expensive drug rehab and holds laboring jobs sporadically.

She is now living back with my sister and her husband with the three children. They cannot get her through community college or beauty school, and neither does she hold a job for long. She takes a course now and then; she gets a retail job for awhile, and my 66-year-old sister watches the kids. My brother-in-law is 67, and I have no idea when he will be able to retire. They will never be free of the child my sister could not bear to discipline. What a mess.

35 posted on 08/13/2007 7:15:38 AM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: brytlea

I hope you’re right. But — if all goes according to plan — they will blame Halliburton instead.


36 posted on 08/13/2007 7:15:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agammemnon dead.)
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To: Irene Adler

Oh, and ADHD was the big excuse for my sister’s daughter, as well. They had her on meds for years, probably still do. My sister is also slways on some sort of psycho-active meds all the time. Nothing is ever anybody’s responsibility, always an excuse, over the years, a truckload of endless excuses.


37 posted on 08/13/2007 7:20:14 AM PDT by Irene Adler (')
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To: ClearCase_guy

“This is how Liberals reproduce.”

I guess that explains why they think of children as “burdens” that should be aborted as often as possible.

It also explains why they cannot fathom having more than 2 kids.


38 posted on 08/13/2007 7:21:31 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
Liberal parenting?

Its a cross between Bohemian parenting and Helicopter parenting.


39 posted on 08/13/2007 7:21:40 AM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s possible too (and maybe more likely). But, from the time I started teaching high school (1999), I thought that this generation is going to be angry and bitter. They have been told they were wonderful and could do anything and be anything. They were not given much of a work ethic and allowed to be lazy physically and mentally. Also, they have all of their needs and most of their wants easily gratified without being required to do much (except whine and throw tantrums—but I don’t know what job requires those skills).

I think when cold hard reality hits them in the face and they find out that EVERYONE is special and wonderful these days, and you actually have to pass college classes to be a Doctor or Lawyer, and that most people will never be famous sports idols or rappers, they are going to be angry. I expect they will be angry at their parents and teachers, but maybe Haliburton.
susie


40 posted on 08/13/2007 7:26:43 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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