Posted on 08/12/2007 11:13:13 AM PDT by Trueblackman
I pose the following questions after the whitewashing of the fact that the ringleader who took part in last week's shooting was an illegal.
Freepers why was this guy let go by not one but two judges?
Why was he in this country for 16 years as illegally?
Where the hell are Jackson and Sharpton on this one, if this had fact been 4 Whites or Police Officers, the City of Newark would be bracing for riots and ever Black Leader would be in front of a mic claiming; "No justice No Peace."
If the killers had been White, reporters would been questioning President Bush on what actions will he take to conduct a federal investigation, the Democrats would put the Congressional Black Caucus out there to tear down and blame Bush and the Department of Justice for not protecting this kids from a racist police force or (Conservative)White(Republicans). The leading Republican Candidates would be questions about the case as well, while the Democrats would be looking to score brownie points.
Unlike with the Don Imus case which received 24 news coverage for 5 days, barely a peep has been said about this case. In the Imus Case at least he did not shoot 4 people and kill 3.
Finally, Where are those who called us Conservatives "racist," for opposing amnesty for illegals?
These were good kids from the right side of the tracks either in College or looking to go to College, but because of the failure of local, state and federal government, 3 will not realize that dream.
The shootings and the resulting deaths shows that the press will simply bury a story when it does not fit its template, so it will not be covered outside of a few soundbites.
Hmmm.. Does the suspect appear white or what is considered Caucasian to you? Why would you asked this question? The fact is, the suspect, who is now considered the ring leader here, is an illegal alien, and Americans have had a belly full of the crime caused by people that have entered our country illegally. Another fact here is if these execution style murders against these young blacks were committed by a white guy, it would be receiving 100 times the coverage that it is now receiving.
It certainly wouldn't be less, and it would be difficult to provide more. So, yeah, about the same. Assuming the same sequence of events -- if there were riots, demonstrations, revenge killings, etc., that would be a different story, more news and more coverage.
So, yeah, about the same.
I had hunch your response would be less than honest.
The CT case didn’t get the coverage because the local community — neighbors, police, pols, etc. — shut out the media. In poor communities the media can come and go as they please.
“Um, not quite.”
NO other candidate has made the same promise, including Thompson or Romney.
“Besides what does this have to do with the subject of the OP? Why are you hijacking this thread with pro-Hunter stuff?”
Did you read the post I replied to? It was about border security. Duncan Hunter IS border security.
A little story here, quite possibly too ancient to be wirht considering in 2007 but I’ll tell it anyway.
Summer, 1970, Sunday afternoon in Griffith Park, L.A. at the Merry-Go-Round area. Bunch of white, black, and latino folks into inpromptu weird music and some instruments to make sounds not know to man, LOL......truly NYC ultra-bohemian types, and the spectacle they created was fairly well known and attracted audience members and other merriment makers of all 3 races every weekend.....other smaller parties of unique and mixed groups planted themselves within and without the range of actually hearing this weird stuff at the center of it all.
One sunday afternoon yours truly was there, just wandering about and enjoying the sights and possibilities (this was 5 yrs after WATTS), and I happened to hear and notice this latina on the edge of what was a small bunch of mostly (but not all) blacks in one of the peripheral groups and she was doing her damndest to create a disturbance.....first with her mouth, then slapping and scratching....ONLY black men in the group.....not whites, not latinos, and not the females either........this went on for maybe 5 minutes, but there seemed no reason for her act.......a couple of the black guys she accosted moved away, even, and she didn’t follow, rather just began on the next one......finally she got what she was demanding, somebody cold-cocked her, and the whole place went silent.....and remained so until she got back on her feet and began again. In an instant every latino there was attacking every and any black man or woman......I mean serious....knives, knucks, and some pistols were going off.......it was just plain wild and scary......but whatever was behind it was strictly latino vs black......the white folks simply walked away from it and were not attacked nor did they attack anyone (I am not and was not from LA, so I just followed suit and was quite glad to do so).....people were getting fairly well beat and cut up for about ten minutes of this until 30 or maybe 50 LAPD patrol cars began arriving.
Like I said, I was not a resident of anywhere near.....I had gone there alone just because someone had told me about the music thing and etc, but not what happened from time to time there with no apparent reason......when I got back to the home of the friends with whom I was staying, they had already seen what happened on the teevee and regretted having not told me that what happened was likely at any time in the park at that location, and that there was long-term enmity agressively perpetrated against blacks by latinos, and that it was apt to happen whenever the balance was in the favor of latinos in the right circumstance and location.
This is only ONS short snapshot of Los Angeles, and it is from 37 years ago. But I MUST wonder what is the origin of such racial aggressiveness in socal from latinos toward blacks so long ago? I never was able to get an understanding of it.......but is it possible the recent event that gave rise to this thread might be inherently traced back at least that far in at least SOME way, to something ongoing in that pre-gang (more or less, anyway) era? Something quite separate from the usual white-based excuses/reasons/occurences......I have often wondered about this particular enmity that is rarely spoken of if gangs are not the subject.
Maybe someone could comment?
‘Brown’ would be a better description than white. Most illegal chicanos are more Amerind than white. The European-blooded mexicans are the upper classes and would never consider getting tanned or picking lettuce....
Well, Rush barely mentioned it either.
Short answer...
Slavery: Spain and Mexico.
Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery - Mexico
Human Trafficking & Modern-day Slavery. United Mexican States (Mexico) [
http://www.gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Mexico.htm
SLAVERY IN MEXICO - BY SHEP LENCHEK - IN MEXICO CONNECT
By Shep Lenchek © 2001 His Bio His E-mail Slavery a la Mexicana. According to the reports of the first Europeans to visit the New World, slavery was almost universal in what is now Mexico and Central ...
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/slenchek/slslavery.html
Slavery
Spain ended slavery in Puerto Rico in 1873 and in Cuba in 1886, and Brazil abolished slavery in 1888. return to top
http://www.worldbook.com/features/explorers/html/impact_colonial_slavery.html
What is latisfundia and the hacienda system except a form of forced labor?
“The shootings and the resulting deaths shows that the press will simply bury a story when it does not fit its template, so it will not be covered outside of a few soundbites.”
The press is pro illegal immigration, so this story is anathema to them.....a true horror story to be covered up
at breakneck speed. It has already disappeared, as horrific and evil as this monstrous act was!
Great post!!
Hunter is an honorable man in politics.......hard to find these days. He really cares about America!
“Lachira Carranza’s lawyer, Felix Lopez Montalvo, said the defendant does not have a Social Security number and is in the United States illegally.
“My client has no documentation,” Lopez Montalvo.”
He sure knows hot to leave his footprint, Mr. Lawyer!!
If the perp was white I would assume the media would cover this as a hate crime related to racist conservatism. My first question was which gang was involved. The entire thing sounds much like a gang related incident. The media is leaving this alone because they would have to cover the percentage of illegals involved with MS13.
“Deport illegals now, before any more innocents suffer from this country’s PC suicide.”
B U M P
If you're going to accuse me of dishonesty, at least have the common courtesy to point out an instance of same. As I pointed out, this case has received a torrent of media coverage. It could hardly receive more without cutting back on coverage of the mine disaster,, the Shuttle, Merv Griffin or the election campaign, and I don't see that happening. Do you?
I have a little thing I do everytime I come across some asanine reference to the cost of vegetables and the horrific rise in same should be we get tough and send the illegal packing.
Now don't go telling the Washington politicians, let's just keep this to ourselves:
WE CAN GROW OUR OWN VEGETABLES OUT HERE IN LA-LA LAND! Indeed Americans have, sadly, been prograndized into believing that we are helpless, helpless, so very helpless. Without the illegals, why we can't even mow our own lawns. Surely we'd be totally lost at growing vegetables.
I see an emergence of "Victory Gardens". All across the fruited plains Americans would be roping and fencing off pieces of front or back yards. Pop in some lettuce, a couple of tomato plants....boom.
Soon some of us would become "specialists" of a sort. I might become known for my fine potatoes while thoust produces tomatoes that consumers travel miles to procure.
I'm an optimist. Let 'em all go home. Let the cost of produce rise until we all start our own plots. I see this as a real opportunity. Americans are the most inventive, creative people on earth!
The political elites in this country must think we are all fools or idiots as we carry this country on our backs while raising the citizens and soldiers of tomorrow.
“Has anything been established as to any gang affiliation, like MS13?”
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?
The residents portrayed Carranza and his cohorts as chronic troublemakers with apparent ties to MS-13, a Central American gang with a growing foothold in Ivy Hill Park.
BigMack
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Dallas hospital -must read
Posted: Aug 11, 2007 10:58 PM (1 of 6)
Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas, Texas is a fairly famous institution and for a variety of reasons:
1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963.
2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after.
3 Jack Ruby - who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, died there a few years later.. by coincidence
On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year. (That’s almost 44 per day -— every day).
A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal immigrants. That’s 11,200 babies born every year just in Dallas. According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering 15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 million.
The average patient in Parkland ‘s maternity wards is 25 years old, married and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant. By law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their immigration status or ability to pay.
OK, fine. That doesn’t mean they should receive better care than everyday, middle-class American citizens. But at Parkland Hospital, they do.
Parkland Memorial Hospital has nine prenatal clinics. NINE.
The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman who was a patient at one of the clinics and pregnant with her third child-—her previous two were also born at Parkland. Her first two deliveries were free and the Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200 to have them in Mexico. This time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and $100 for the delivery but she was unsure if she could come up with the money. Not that it matters, the hospital won’t turn her away. (I wonder why they even bother asking at this point).
How long has this been going on? What are the long-term affects?
Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland in 1986 shortly after her mother entered the U. S. illegally -— now she is having her own child there as well. (That’s right, she’s technically a U. S. citizen). These women receive free prenatal care including medication, nutrition, birthing classes and child care classes. They also get freebies such as car seats, bottles, diapers and formula.
Most of these things are available to American citizens as well but only for low-income applicants and even then, the red tape involved is almost insurmountable.
Because these women are illegal immigrants, they do not have to provide any sort of legitimate identification -— no proof of income. An American citizen would have to provide a social security number which would reveal their annual income -— an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the hospital must take them at their word.
My husband is a pilot for the United States Navy (yes, he fought in Iraq) and while the health care is good, we Navy wives don’t get any of these perks! Car seats? Diapers? Not so much. So, my question is this: Does our public medical care system treat illegal immigrants better than American citizens? Yes it does!
As I mentioned, the care I have received is perfectly adequate but it’s bare bones, meat and potato medical care -— not top of line.
Their (the illegals) medical care is free -— simply because they are illegal immigrants! Once again, there is no way to verify their income.
Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County residents who earn less than $40,000 per year. (They also have to prove that they did not refuse health coverage at their current job. Yeah, the ‘free’ care is not so easy for Americans) .
There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4 million dollars for un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns out, they did not qualify for free treatment because they resided outside of Dallas County. So the hospital is going to sue them! Illegals get it all free! But U. S citizens who live outside of Dallas County get sued! How stupid is this?
As if that isn’t annoying enough, the illegal immigrant patients are actually complaining about hospital staff not speaking Spanish. In this AP story, the author speaks with a woman who is upset that she had to translate comments from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband. The doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and the mother was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was apparently a great injustice to her.
In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland Hospital is now providing incentives in the form of extra pay for applicants who speak Spanish. Additionally, medical students at the University of Texas Southwestern for which Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now have a Spanish language requirement added to their already jammed-packed curriculum. No other school in the country boasts such a ridiculous multi-semester (multicultural) requirement.
PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY US CITIZEN YOU KNOW.
If you want to verify accuracy: http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp
Be careful of “I know it when I see it” versions of ethnicity. My former boss is named Manuel. He is a born US citizen, native in both Spanish and English. He’s dark-haired and olive-skinned.
But here’s the thing — both his parents are Spanish. No, I don’t mean Hispanic, I mean Spanish. From Spain. Europeans. White. Right? Even if they’re dusky and swarthy?
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