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Advocates Call Iraq Marine's Court Martial and Conviction Into Question
The Salem-News ^ | Aug-09-2007 | Tim King

Posted on 08/10/2007 8:53:44 PM PDT by brityank

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To: shield

We’ll help light the fuse!


41 posted on 08/11/2007 12:18:41 PM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.)
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To: GivingMurthaAShove
Bones has the documentation on this.

He claims that NCIS was in charge of intelligence operations in Anbar in 2004. I would like to see the documentation on this, please.

42 posted on 08/11/2007 12:47:29 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: flightline

Trying to keep up with the facts in the immediate cases is enough for me!

I’ve posted pdfs of documents in the Haditha hearings. If there are pdfs of testimony or other documents in the Hamdania cases, I’d love to help get them out there.


43 posted on 08/11/2007 12:55:23 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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Quite frankly, Dave, you aren't worth my time... It isn't a question of schoolyard antics. The question is: red pill or blue pill? The choice is yours. Once you make it, you can never go back. ===== http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2004/12/mil-041228-usmc02.htm NCIS has distinct mission in Iraq's Al Anbar province Marine Corps News Story Identification #: 2004122812245 Story by Cpl. Joel A. Chaverri AL ASAD, Iraq (Dec. 28, 2004) -- Marines and Sailors deployed in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom have a guardian angel: the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. http://www.vegsource.com/talk/flame/messages/5573.html From:  Bart (129.171.32.13)  Subject:       Military Knew of Contractor's Pay-to-Play Media in Iraq  Date:    December 18, 2005 at 9:05 am PST  Military Knew of Contractor's Pay-to-Play Media in Iraq  By Mark Mazzetti and Kevin Sack  The Los Angeles Times  Sunday 18 December 2005 http://eccentricstar.typepad.com/public_diplomacy_weblog_n/iraq_afghanistan/index.html "Navy to Probe Ambassador Cousin's Death," by Robert Reid - AP (Baghdad), 21 Aug 2005 The U.S. military said Sunday it has ordered a criminal investigation into the June death of the 21-year-old cousin of Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations, who alleged that U.S. Marines killed his unarmed relative in cold blood during a raid in western Iraq. Following a preliminary investigation, the case involving the death of Mohammed al-Sumaidaie has been referred to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, or NCIS, for further investigation, the military said in a statement.... Report Concludes US Propaganda in Iraq Not Against Regulations - But Not Effective, Either "US Urged to Stop Paying Iraqi Reporters," by David S. Cloud - the New York Times, 24 May 2006 (registration required) WASHINGTON, May 23 — A Defense Department investigation of Pentagon-financed propaganda efforts in Iraq warns that paying Iraqi journalists to produce positive stories could damage American credibility and calls for an end to military payments to a group of Iraqi journalists in Baghdad, according to a summary of the investigation. http://www.topdog08.com/2005/11/index.html http://dailywarnews.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_archive.html ===== NCIS investigations http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/121404.html Department of Navy Documents  (released by the ACLU 12/14/04, by the government 11/23/04) Haditha, Iraq Investigation Timeline http://www.usmc.mil/lapa/Iraq/Haditha/Haditha-Timeline.htm http://www.ncis.navy.mil/NewsDetails.asp?Type=Cur&Id=337 http://www.t-g.com/story/1108254.html "It took the FBI a day to get to Fallujah to begin its investigation," Lapan said. "NCIS (Naval Criminal Investigation Service) joined the investigators. It took considerable time for the FBI and NCIS to interview and obtain statements from witnesses and contractor personnel to provide the commander with enough information to make a reasonable determination." Blanchard asks: How could NCIS "join" an investigation it started before the FBI arrived? NCIS took identification cards provided by the contractor hired by the Army Corps of Engineers. http://www.cusnc.navy.mil/articles/2005/62.htm Director Recognizes NCIS Special Agents in Bahrain By Photographer's Mate 1st Class Curt Cooper, COMUSNAVCENT/5th Fleet Public Affairs MANAMA, Bahrain -- The director of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) recognized several special agents and an investigator from the NCIS, Middle East Field Office, June 15, for their superior achievements in Iraq. "We are doing unique things in that theater-- these gentlemen did things in that theater-- that others cannot, have not, and may not be able to do in the future," said NCIS Director David Brant. "They volunteered to be there and their work had a significant impact." security contractor photos in Iraq http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=39552 http://thehill.com/business--lobby/former-ncis-director-makes-lateral-move-to-the-recreational-sector-2006-05-23.html Former NCIS director makes 'lateral move to the recreational sector'   By Roxana Tiron   May 23, 2006  David Brant had 15 seconds of fame on CBS’s Tuesday hit show “NCIS.” As part of what he calls his CBS retirement gift, Brant, the former director of the real NCIS, or Navy Criminal Investigative Service, got to play himself in a scene with the show’s leading actor, Mark Harmon. All Brant had to say in response to Harmon’s brief remark on his retirement was, “I like to refer to it as a lateral move to the recreational sector.” It took all of four hours to shoot the 15 seconds. Brant earlier this year accepted an offer to become a consultant for Deloitte’s public- and private-sector practice in homeland security and justice. (http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/home/0,1044,sid%25253D2000,00.html) http://accounting.smartpros.com/x39807.xml But USAID abruptly put the job out for competitive bidding after a consortium led by Booz Allen Hamilton, Deloitte & Touche and IBM Global Services complained to the agency and Congress that it had been shut out of the process. http://www.digitalmediaasia.com/default.asp?ArticleID=24877 Centrecom signs contract with Deloitte  Ireland-based broadband provider, Centrecom has signed a contract with Deloitte to facilitate home working by Deloitte employees. http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=12808110 BearingPoint Gears Up For Iraq Rebuilding   Firm prepares for wiped-out IT infrastructure and safety risks  By Paul McDougall  InformationWeek   August 4, 2003 12:00 AM (From the August 4, 2003 issue)    "We usually go in when the bullets have stopped. Trouble is, they haven't stopped yet," says Tom DeGarmo, a BearingPoint consultant who could be headed to Iraq as soon as this week to help rebuild the country's computing infrastructure. http://www.citizenworks.org/news/index.php?id=209 CAOB PCAOB reports find major deficiencies in audits of Ernst & Young, PricewaterhouseCoopers The Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (PCAOB) has completed its audits of Ernst & Young and PricewaterhouseCoopers, and the results are not pretty. The PCAOB found that eight of E&Y's audits and 30 of PwC's audits were so big that the accounting firms failed to obtain "sufficient competent evidential matter." These audits contained deficiencies of "such significance" that regulators may call into question their assessments of company finances. In one case, E&Y did not even properly assess whether it was appropriate for a client to count a divested business as a discontinued operation. In nine cases, PwC did not properly confirm accounts receivable.Now, the PCAOB has completed reports of all of the Big Four accounting firms. Last month, it found deficiencies in six percent of audits by Deloitte & Touche and 25 percent of audits by KPMG. Ginn Weblog: Trade Archives ASIL Insights: Iraq Reconstruction Contracts ... See also this press release, issued at 6:26pm today by JetBlue, "JetBlue Retains Deloitte & Touche to ... blogs.fletcher.tufts.edu/ ginnblog/archives/cat_trade.html - 25k - http://www.conferencepage.com/mcndirect/issues/mcndirect020603.asp#1 1. DELOITTE CONSULTING IN ABOUT TURN  Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu has made a dramatic U-turn, deciding to integrate Deloitte Consulting back into its audit business after the consultancy failed to complete a management buyout plan (MCN Direct Vol. 2 No. 13). The integration is due to be completed in a few weeks' time and will create a single organisation that combines Deloitte Consulting with Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu's business consulting and human capital practices. http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=8297257662296⟨=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE2 Millions wasted on Navy boat barriers Rules skirted, defects abound in effort to protect ships from terror attacks By Scott Higham and Robert O'Harrow Jr.  Updated: 1:45 a.m. CT May 24, 2007 The men from al-Qaeda guided their bomb-laden skiff through the harbor and drew near the USS Cole, detonating a quarter-ton of C-4 plastic explosive that killed 17 sailors and tore a 40-foot hole in the side of the Navy destroyer. Eventually, NCIS investigated its own contract. NCIS officials said the GSA had "responsibility for ensuring that contracts are properly awarded and executed." An NCIS spokesman declined to elaborate or discuss the allegations, saying "there is a joint, ongoing criminal investigation into this matter." Northern was told by NCIS officials to hire P-Con Consulting of Alexandria. The company's sole employee was Patrick Condon, who already worked as a security consultant to NCIS. Condon received a title for his role in the project: deputy program manager for Navy boat barriers. re: Brandt: http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=8297257662296⟨=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE2 http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/employee_profile/0,1007,sid=2228&cid=149625,00.html
44 posted on 08/11/2007 2:26:27 PM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/08/convicted-marine-hutchins-gains-public.html#links
SATURDAY, AUGUST 11, 2007
 
 Convicted Marine Hutchins Gains Public Support
Thanks to Papa Ray for sending this story on the court marshal of Haditha marine Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins from the Salem News:

Marine Sergeant Lawrence Hutchins during his court martial. (Salem News)


45 posted on 08/11/2007 3:10:30 PM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

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46 posted on 08/11/2007 4:00:58 PM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

Oh, crud, not this crap again. What happened to your sock puppet?

This is a discussion forum. If you’re not willing to coherently discuss the results of your Googling, threads like this one can’t go anywhere.


47 posted on 08/11/2007 4:12:30 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: rwsteel; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; ...

Will murtha apologize?
http://www.theorator.com/senate.html
House
http://www.theorator.com/government/house.html

Special Agent Greg Hull-Ryde was recognized for his work in the Strategic Counter-Intelligence Directorate (SCID), Baghdad. SCID is a joint effort charged with conducting counter-intelligence operations throughout the Iraqi theater.

“I volunteered because I knew it would be a unique opportunity to work closely with the other services in a wartime environment. I knew the work was going to be challenging,” Hull-Ryde said. “I knew it was going to be exciting, and it turned out to be all of those things.”

Brant also praised the NCIS Middle East Field Office for its far-reaching influence throughout the 5th Fleet area of responsibility.

“The NCIS mission consists of criminal investigative support, counter-terrorism support, counter-intelligence support,” said Brant. “Wherever the fleet deploys, wherever there is a naval presence, our special agents are typically in advance of or next to that presence providing counter-terrorism, force protection and counter-intelligence support.”
http://www.cusnc.navy.mil/articles/2005/62.htm

Ping to bones’ Post#44


48 posted on 08/11/2007 4:16:07 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: rwsteel

What are the odds of finding more info on one of the incidents referenced in your Post #44, moments ago.....

By DEBORAH HASTINGS, AP National Writer Sat Aug 11, 2:10 PM ET

Sixteen American security guards were arrested and jailed by U.S. Marines in battle-scarred Fallujah in 2005 following a day of shooting incidents in which they allegedly fired on a Marine observation post, a combat patrol and civilians walking and driving in the city, about 40 miles west of Baghdad.
The guards, employed by Zapata Engineering of North Carolina, were imprisoned for three days. “They were detained because their actions posed a threat to coalition forces. I would say that constitutes a serious event,” Marine spokesman Lt. Col. Dave Lapan said at the time.
The contractors were released and returned to the U.S., where they claimed the Marines humiliated and taunted them in prison, calling them “mercenaries” and intimidating them with dogs. The private guards denied taking part in the shootings.
Last year, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service closed its criminal investigation of the case “for lack of prosecutive merit,” a spokesman said. None of the 16 men where charged.
But days after the shootings, Marine Maj. Gen. Stephen T. Johnson, commander of western Iraq, banned the 16 contractors from every military installation in the area.
In letters to each man, the general wrote: “Your convoy was speeding through the city and firing shots indiscriminately, some of which impacted positions manned by U.S. Marines.
“Your actions endangered the lives of innocent Iraqis and U.S. service members in the area.”
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49 posted on 08/11/2007 4:30:07 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: brityank

Sound like Deletoite is like the Illuminati...

They are all over the world, running everything from the shadows. They wrote the EU constitution, and then counted the votes to reject it....

You note that the lawyer is not asserting the facts. Usually that means that the facts are not in his clients favor.

Sounds like the lawyer would like to get his guy off on the coattails of the Haditha unit. If he can, I would be surprised. I imagine that most of the people on the jury had been in combat recently. That is the way it is supposed to be.


50 posted on 08/11/2007 4:46:41 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

In any combat situation, the Air Force will get the most funding, the Navy will get the most command billets, the Marines will get the most publicity, and the Army will do the most fighting.


51 posted on 08/11/2007 4:49:19 PM PDT by donmeaker (You may not be interested in War but War is interested in you.)
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To: freema

Which specific incidents? :O)


52 posted on 08/11/2007 4:49:49 PM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

I can’t find it now! I just read it!


53 posted on 08/11/2007 5:07:25 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: freema

Nice reply to rwsteel.


54 posted on 08/11/2007 5:34:59 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Hunter in 2008)
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To: rwsteel; Marine_Uncle

Thanks, Unc.

Here it is: http://www.t-g.com/story/1108254.html
It was about 2/3 of the way into your post.


55 posted on 08/11/2007 5:54:38 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: rwsteel

here’s the link, didn’t realize I didn’t have it all in that post.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070811/ap_on_re_us/contractor_shootings;_ylt=AkCSgdEJuw7ku9bMjYgzAMis0NUE


56 posted on 08/11/2007 5:58:20 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: freema

Thanks. But I gotta hit the rack. Tis 9PM. And my eyes will hardly stay open. Have a pleasant evening.


57 posted on 08/11/2007 5:59:22 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Hunter in 2008)
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To: rwsteel

From the new yahoo account: Last year, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service closed its criminal investigation of the case “for lack of prosecutive merit,” a spokesman said. None of the 16 men where charged.


58 posted on 08/11/2007 6:00:55 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: freema

That particular case, you know as much as I do.

I came at this from the direction of their connections to NCIS and the Haditha Marines


59 posted on 08/11/2007 6:14:50 PM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

I don’t know anything, either. It sure was coincidental, them wrapping up a long and old investigation for lack of prosecutorial conviction after all this time, and wrapping it up the minute you posted that link.


60 posted on 08/11/2007 6:19:14 PM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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