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Advocates Call Iraq Marine's Court Martial and Conviction Into Question
The Salem-News ^ | Aug-09-2007 | Tim King

Posted on 08/10/2007 8:53:44 PM PDT by brityank

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To: Eagles6
Sorry.

Try NCIS ^

21 posted on 08/10/2007 9:53:30 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank
Sorry, my poor sentence composition led to an erroneous thingamabob. I do know that the ncis is civilian, which was the premise of my first post.

What I meant to say is that the CIA is also "civilian" and I could see them having a role in intelligence in anbar but not the ncis which is a civilian, criminal investigative outfit.

22 posted on 08/10/2007 9:59:26 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: brityank

Where did this come from?


23 posted on 08/10/2007 10:01:05 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Grimmy; All
If the historical perspective approach is taken, and the known link between the old soviet kgb and the islamist terror organizations is acknowledged, it would be safer to assume we’ve been penetrated and subverted in any number of applicable areas, rather than assuming that we’re secure.

Now maybe I'll sound like a moonbat, but I have come to believe that the subjugation of our American society has been ongoing in fits and starts since the Federalists had to compromise with the Anti-Federalists to get the Constitution enacted. That subjugation really got a boost at the start of the 20th Century -- The Federal Reserve, the 16th and 17th Amendments, and the battles against socialism of all stripes.

We lose America -- there's no place else to go. Then what ...

24 posted on 08/10/2007 10:05:17 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Eagles6

The link at #15 by blade_tenner.


25 posted on 08/10/2007 10:07:47 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

Thanks.


26 posted on 08/10/2007 10:12:31 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: cindy-true-supporter; trooprally

Read the entire article. Alarming.


27 posted on 08/10/2007 10:59:50 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( “A nation without borders is not a nation.” —Ronald Reagan)
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To: brityank

Something doesn’t smell right. Supposedly, Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu is an auditing firm. So why might their psychologists “have been used by both defense and prosecution legal teams in order to examine the Marines in question?” They wouldn’t have any such psychologists on their payroll. Or would they?

Of what possible use would the following employee be to an auditing firm? This is a biography of any employee at Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, from their own website.


http://www.deloitte.com/dtt/employee_profile/0,1007,sid%3D2228&cid%3D149626,00.html .

Meet Dr. Michael G. Gelles
Senior Manager, Deloitte & Touche LLP

Dr. Michael Gelles is currently a senior manager with Deloitte and Touche LLP’s Federal practice in Washington, D.C., consulting in the areas of human capital management and systems and operations.

Previously, he was the chief psychologist for the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) for more than 16 years. In that capacity, he assisted the NCIS and a multitude of other federal, state and local law enforcement agencies with criminal, counterintelligence and counterterrorism investigations and operations. He was the lead psychologist for the behavioral consultation team for the Criminal Investigations Task Force, and a member of numerous other task forces in the areas of workplace violence, insider threat and ethics in consultation to national security. Prior to joining the NCIS in 1990, Dr. Gelles served as a clinical psychologist for the U.S. Navy.

He is active in a number of professional organizations, including the American Psychological Association Division of Police Psychology, the International Association of Chiefs of Police, the Psychology Services Section, the Society of Police and Criminal Psychology, and the Association of Threat Assessment Professionals. Dr. Gelles is also a frequent lecturer and has published numerous professional papers on topics related to organizational management in operational settings, forensic psychology, law enforcement, terrorism and counterintelligence.

Dr. Gelles received his Bachelor of Arts from the University of Delaware and his master’s and doctorate degrees in psychology from Yeshiva University in New York. He completed his clinical and forensic training at the National Naval Medical School and his advanced training at the Washington School of Psychiatry. He held academic appointments in psychiatry at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences and at the Washington School of Psychiatry.

Contact us for more information

Source: Deloitte & Touche USA LLP - United States (English)


28 posted on 08/10/2007 11:00:57 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb; RedRover; Grimmy; jazusamo; Girlene; xzins; smoothsailing
Interesting find, BB. If there was any doubt that the corporations are running roughshod over our government, this subtracts from it.

What do the rest of you think? [It's getting late here, so I'll check back tomorrow.]

29 posted on 08/10/2007 11:11:36 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Albion Wilde; cindy-true-supporter; trooprally
Follow up with the link in #15 for desert.             :^)
30 posted on 08/10/2007 11:13:50 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: BykrBayb; RedRover
How's this grab you for a cut-out operation:
Deloitte refers to one or more of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu, a Swiss Verein, its member firms, and their respective subsidiaries and affiliates. As a Swiss Verein (association), neither Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu nor any of its member firms has any liability for each other’s acts or omissions. Each of the member firms is a separate and independent legal entity operating under the names “Deloitte,” “Deloitte & Touche,” “Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu,” or other related names. Services are provided by the member firms or their subsidiaries or affiliates and not by the Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu Verein.

Deloitte & Touche USA LLP is the U.S. member firm of Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu. In the United States, services are provided by the subsidiaries of Deloitte & Touche USA LLP (Deloitte & Touche LLP, Deloitte Consulting LLP, Deloitte Financial Advisory Services LLP, Deloitte Tax LLP, and their subsidiaries), and not by Deloitte & Touche USA LLP.
If that's not a setup to disavow any connection to the US Government, then I'm Maxwell Smart !
31 posted on 08/10/2007 11:24:41 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank

I skipped the fine print. Thanks for pointing that out.

Looks like they’re disavowing any connection to themselves.


32 posted on 08/10/2007 11:30:40 PM PDT by BykrBayb (In memory of my Friend T'wit. ~ Þ)
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To: brityank; Calpernia; freema

Good catch, yank. This needs more research.


33 posted on 08/10/2007 11:32:23 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Liberal ideas can be hilarious in peacetime, in wartime they're life-threatening)
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To: brityank
John Murtha's office too busy sewing surrender flags to answer phones
34 posted on 08/10/2007 11:37:38 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Liberal ideas can be hilarious in peacetime, in wartime they're life-threatening)
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To: brityank

Thank ya Brit.

As for the rest of you dogmatic skeptics?

Simple. Do the research...

Fingers meet keyboard. Keyboard. Take me to Google.

Deloite NCIS.

NCIS Haditha.

Deloitte Iran.

Deloitte Syria.

Deloite Al Anbar.

Deloitte Chalabi.

Deloitte JAG.

Deloitte DoD.

Deloitte Pentagon.

etc and so on...

then...take a look at Iraq contractors.

etc. and so on...almost ad infinitum.

I’ve gathered some three hundred pages of material without really trying hard...

At best, we have a single global conglomerate, with a single corporate culture, which is involved in conflicts of interest and undue influence...from here to Iraq and back again..

see also:


http://retheauditors.blogspot.com/2007/08/deloitte-extraordinary-services-in.
html

THURSDAY, AUGUST 09, 2007

Deloitte - Extraordinary Services In Unusual Places

Truth is, nowadays, often stranger than fiction. I am a skeptic by nature but also a realist. If it makes money for someone, it’s probably happening out there.

Why would a mild mannered firm like Deloitte get mixed up in dirty business in Iraq? Well, as I have said before, “...that’s where the money is.” And that’s where the money goes, in order to get these contracts.


http://www.americasvictory08.com/?p=2454


http://retheauditors.blogspot.com/


http://www.topix.net/wire/us/marine-corps


http://www.topix.net/wire/city/salem-or


http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/article/salem-news6337.htm


http://www.californiaconservative.org/


see also:

http://euphoricreality.com/2007/08/09/military-injustice-finally-makes-the-msm/
Military (In)Justice Finally Makes the MSM
 Filed Under (Innocent 8) by Kit Lange on August-9-2007


Reference:
http://plymouth.wickedlocal.com/article.aspx?id=12143&c=cfp
The fight has just begun Hutchins seeking appeal, clemency, friends urge community’s support
August 07, 2007 | Old Colony Memorial
By Rich Harbert, CNC Newspapers


http://www.letfreedomringblog.com/
A Page Has Turned, A Web Exposed

August 10th, 2007 12:00 pm

As you know, Gen. Mattis dropped all charges against Capt. Stone and LCpl. Sharratt. That’s only part of what’s been happening within the military judicial system. I believe this article is a preview of things to come in other cases brought against our military.

Tim Harrington is a personal friend of the Hutchins family who has worked tirelessly on the case.


s.
Warren Bonesteel aka wrsteel@blackhawke.net


35 posted on 08/11/2007 1:29:20 AM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: rwsteel

Oh. BTW.

http://www.ncis.navy.mil/about.asp
About NCIS
NCIS is the primary law enforcement and counterintelligence arm of the United States Department of the Navy. It works closely with other local, state, ...
www.ncis.navy.mil/about.asp - 18k - Cached - Similar pages

...geez...

.


36 posted on 08/11/2007 3:11:10 AM PDT by rwsteel (One man can change the world. Wanna see how? Here! Hold muh beer and watch this...)
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To: RedRover
red, not only is this the truth, you can find in the testimony of James Connolly the fact he talked about the flyer's that the Penn. 8 were supposed to have distributed. It was found in the court martial that is was the NCIS and command, Then blamed on these Marines. Before Tail Hook scandal, this branch was the NIS ( Naval Intelligence) Now look into the "LINX" program, It is in a town near you. This is not just plausible but is fact, be very worried. It also operates against the Constitution.
37 posted on 08/11/2007 3:45:55 AM PDT by flightline (they fight for us,We fight for them........!)
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Military (In)Justice Finally Makes the MSM ^
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On Bloggers & Personal ^ 08/09/2007 6:34:01 PM EDT · 2 of 2 ^

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1878937/posts?page=2#2


38 posted on 08/11/2007 7:03:00 AM PDT by freema (Proud Marine Niece, Daughter, Wife, Friend, Sister, Aunt, Cousin, Mother, and FRiend)
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To: freema; jude24

ping.....hey jude....


39 posted on 08/11/2007 7:43:50 AM PDT by stylin19a (Go Bears !)
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To: RedRover

Bones has the documentation on this. It’s foolish to disagree with Bones’ research. I’ve (half) kiddingly told him that he’s a one man data mining operation.

If more people trusted his research, we’d have alot more intelligent people.


40 posted on 08/11/2007 11:48:06 AM PDT by GivingMurthaAShove
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