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An excerpt from Freeman Dyson's latest book. The Edge editors chose the following paragraph to introduce the excerpt:

My first heresy says that all the fuss about global warming is grossly exaggerated. Here I am opposing the holy brotherhood of climate model experts and the crowd of deluded citizens who believe the numbers predicted by the computer models. Of course, they say, I have no degree in meteorology and I am therefore not qualified to speak. But I have studied the climate models and I know what they can do. The models solve the equations of fluid dynamics, and they do a very good job of describing the fluid motions of the atmosphere and the oceans. They do a very poor job of describing the clouds, the dust, the chemistry and the biology of fields and farms and forests. They do not begin to describe the real world that we live in. The real world is muddy and messy and full of things that we do not yet understand. It is much easier for a scientist to sit in an air-conditioned building and run computer models, than to put on winter clothes and measure what is really happening outside in the swamps and the clouds. That is why the climate model experts end up believing their own models.

1 posted on 08/10/2007 11:44:22 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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Ping, friends...it’s been a while...


2 posted on 08/10/2007 11:45:08 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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Another Global Warming heretic!


3 posted on 08/10/2007 11:50:17 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: snarks_when_bored
Beautiful and timely post. Thank you.
I need to order that book ASAP. A recent article, by the scam artist Gore, can use the input from this silly ignorant denier.

< /sarc >

4 posted on 08/10/2007 11:51:42 AM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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The planet has a fever.... Does this tie make me look not so gay? Oh wait, it's a tie, not a wand...

5 posted on 08/10/2007 11:59:44 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: snarks_when_bored
Thanks SWB. Among many other things, Dyson wrote the foreword for the late Thomas Gold's book The Deep, Hot Biosphere, and made a similar point about specific heresies by Gold which had proved out. But anyway, here's an apropos reprise, with emphasis added:
Caves reveal clues to UK weather
by Tom Heap
At Pooles Cavern in Derbyshire, it was discovered that the stalagmites grow faster in the winter months when it rains more. Alan Walker, who guides visitors through the caves, says the changes in rainfall are recorded in the stalactites and stalagmites like the growth rings in trees. Stalagmites from a number of caves have now been analysed by Dr Andy Baker at Newcastle University. After splitting and polishing the rock, he can measure its growth precisely and has built up a precipitation history going back thousands of years. His study suggests this autumn's rainfall is not at all unusual when looked at over such a timescale but is well within historic variations. He believes politicians find it expedient to blame a man-made change in our weather rather than addressing the complex scientific picture.
I like that closing sentence -- "future decision-making could be made based on scientific data and not on political expediency". I wouldn't count on it, but that would be great.
11 posted on 08/10/2007 12:18:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 9, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Bump for later reading!


12 posted on 08/10/2007 12:20:25 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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A "heresy" topic. :')

14 posted on 08/10/2007 12:22:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 9, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Noone has said it better.
15 posted on 08/10/2007 12:37:08 PM PDT by Turret Gunner A20
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To conclude this piece I come to my third and last heresy. My third heresy says that the United States has less than a century left of its turn as top nation.
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ok the sky is still falling


16 posted on 08/10/2007 12:41:48 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for a strong national defense, free markets and traditional moral values.)
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I like his stance on the matter, and it rather agrees with mine:

One of the main causes of warming is the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere resulting from our burning of fossil fuels such as oil and coal and natural gas.

So before we all congratulate ourselves for having him on our side, we have to understand what he is saying. While he doesn't necessarily agree with most freepers (I happen to believe, more or less, in Anthropogenic Global Warming), he DOES believe, like I do and the rest of us, that its mostly a political sham. He has a very interesting take on the matter, saying its a LAND MANAGEMENT problem, and solution. Get this:

Greenhouse experiments show that many plants growing in an atmosphere enriched with carbon dioxide react by increasing their root-to-shoot ratio. This means that the plants put more of their growth into roots and less into stems and leaves. A change in this direction is to be expected, because the plants have to maintain a balance between the leaves collecting carbon from the air and the roots collecting mineral nutrients from the soil. The enriched atmosphere tilts the balance so that the plants need less leaf-area and more root-area. Now consider what happens to the roots and shoots when the growing season is over, when the leaves fall and the plants die. The new-grown biomass decays and is eaten by fungi or microbes. Some of it returns to the atmosphere and some of it is converted into topsoil. On the average, more of the above-ground growth will return to the atmosphere and more of the below-ground growth will become topsoil. So the plants with increased root-to-shoot ratio will cause an increased transfer of carbon from the atmosphere into topsoil.

I love this! More CO2, more roots; more roots, more carbon into topsoil, OUT of the atmosphere. Whats this? Mother Earth, REGULATING herself?! This is great!

17 posted on 08/10/2007 12:45:39 PM PDT by Paradox (I'm almost done with Politics.)
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Dyson is sui generis.

Of course I wonder if his mapping of Feynman’s model onto Schwinger’s was accurate. Schwinger did not think so.

Been a long time. Nice to hear from you again. You have been missed.


21 posted on 08/10/2007 12:52:46 PM PDT by Iris7 ("Do not live lies!" ...Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
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Thanks for posting this. Lubos is writing about the weather scam as well, check his blog http://motls.blogspot.com/
24 posted on 08/10/2007 1:17:49 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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Excellent!!

A superb article, and it will probably cause me to buy his book.

25 posted on 08/10/2007 1:27:48 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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Dyson's unspoken truth==

Ignorance and Arrogance go mano e mano!

29 posted on 08/10/2007 2:33:03 PM PDT by Young Werther ( and Julius Caesar said, "quae cum ita sunt." (or since these things are so!))
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Oh dear. What will Shell Oil do now, and that one that has the dinosaur mascot? (if oil comes from deep within the earth and is not the result of previous life forms)


34 posted on 08/10/2007 2:58:18 PM PDT by firebrand
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When we are trying to take care of a planet, just as when we are taking care of a human patient, diseases must be diagnosed before they can be cured. We need to observe and measure what is going on in the biosphere, rather than relying on computer models.

Much like early physicians and surgeons used bloodletting to treat a variety of ailments, the followers of Gore want to drain the financial resources of the rich to cure the planet. They feel that doing something, even if it makes the problem worse, will demonstrate their commitment to the cause.

41 posted on 08/10/2007 5:07:24 PM PDT by eggman (Democrat party - The black hole of liberalism from which no rational thought can escape.)
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FReepmail me to get on or off


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A good read..
47 posted on 08/11/2007 5:33:09 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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The introduction is nicely written.

The whole article is pretty good, but he accepted (without question!) the fallacy that GW is CAUSED by the increase in CO2 from man’s emissions.

Ignores the counter-relationship between temps and cosmic radiation/sunspot activity/cloud/vapor levels. Ironically, he mentions some of these factors, but ignores their influence.

49 posted on 08/11/2007 6:36:38 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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bumpers!


50 posted on 08/11/2007 6:53:19 AM PDT by rock58seg (Change Homeland Security to U. S. Security. It's time they remember what country to protect.)
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Freeman Dyson rocks. I watched an older documentary about a project going to Mars using very small atomic bombs that he was heavily involved with. I don’t understand half of what he says at times, as I’m not that scientific, but if he says it’s not as bad as Al Gore claims, I’d agree with him much more than some of these climatologists


51 posted on 08/11/2007 6:58:34 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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