Posted on 08/06/2007 2:10:24 PM PDT by Between the Lines
A Detroit-area newspaper says the results of Tuesday's primary could lead to Hamtramck, Michigan, becoming the first city council in the U.S. to be controlled by Muslims.
The Detroit News says there are four Muslims in the Tuesday primary. If they are among the candidates who win and go on to run in the November election, they would have a chance to join a fifth Muslim who already sits on the six-member council and is up for re-election in 2009.
Hamtramck -- historically a refuge for Catholic immigrants mostly from Poland and Ukraine -- was at the center of a controversy three years ago over an initiative allowing amplified calls to prayer from the city's mosques.
More here from the Detroit News
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No, it’s not the same thing at all. Have you heard it?
It’s a human voice.
Like I said, bad RV park. It’s a loudspeaker, like watching
M*A*S*H.
Bells are not the same as a human voice. Is Big Ben chiming the hour the same as the call to prayer?
This was set in law a few years ago when the Indian tribes in Michigan gained trubunal status. They have legal standing on tribal matters. I knew then it was only a time until the mohamedan’s would attempt to claim the same status. This is the fracturing of America.
FWIW, I'm very familiar with that area having hung out there throughout the 70's till mid 80's. I have countless Polish friends from the Hamtramck area who have long ago move out to the subs as their incomes allowed them to do so.
Until the Muslim take over, the neighborhoods were destined toward slum status and crack houses with properties valued at next to nothing.
However, that now seems to be not the case. I'm more than willing to give the new muslim population the benefit of the doubt.
FWIW, I hired a Muslim guy from Pakistan back around 1976 at our plant on Detroit's east side. I remember times when I worked out in our assembly area on weekends and came across him and he would always call me "Mr. Don". He once was pulled over by the Det. police and given a traffic ticket for not having his seatbelt on and asked me if I would write a letter for him to give to the judge explaining that he did in fact have the belt on but had taken it off in order to remove his wallet from his back pocket..........
Whatever production was required, he was there, 7 days a week 10 - 12 hours a day. In fact he would always complain to me about the "other" guys he worked with who were nothing but slackards.
I'm not about to broad brush the new Hamtramck community but am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.........
Also known for their nudist colonies, and other such things. Not that I've ever been, but I wouldn't expect it a place to be taken over by Muzzi's, unless they blowed it up first.
Read again “CULTURE” voices instead of bells. I don’t care for it either, but it is what it is.
“Who is permitting the invasion of foreigners into the country? Hes Not a Democrat”
I”m confused are you ranting about illegal mexicans coming across the border? That would be the rampant illegal problem. Or, are you ranting about our “legal” immigration system which still allows arabs from hostile nations to immigrate here. I don’t think we’re still paying them to come, like we did during the Clinton administration (hopefully). Iowa and Michagan gave money to Croations (arab/muslim) to come here during the 90’s (Muslims always vote democrat). They’ve had ample time to set-up sleeper cells. So which problem are you solely attaching to President Bush?
Why are you "shocked" that a local population expresses their Constitutional federal and state rights on a local level? Are you suggesting that "higher" authorities may impose their will upon a local populace? This is no doubt a sticky slope.
Let me tell you this about my personal experience: if the world as a whole followed this man's work/interpersonal ethic, the world would be immensely better off than where its at presently. I believe the world's problems could be solved on the wallyball/volleyball court/field.
Been there. Done that.
Let me tell you something: Black Islam is not Islam of Arabic origin (that's an animal all by itself; having its own needs for sustainance).
The same words were said in the Detroit area during the 30's, 40's and 50's when the city was being flooded by the poles, the dago's, the jews and the ukes..........
I don't thing the new muslim population in Hamtramck is going to pose a problem to you or I.....And in fact I welcome them considering where that area was headed.........
You can stil heear the Church Bells every day in my town, and on the weekend you can hear the pipeorgan playing some very beautiful music.
“You can stil heear the Church Bells every day in my town, and on the weekend you can hear the pipeorgan playing some very beautiful music.”
Undoubtedly would be burned to the ground in Iran.
Let's tell them about Ithaca.
That comment wasn’t meant for BQ.
By 9/15/01, we knew what Bush was doing and what direction he was headed in. Hell, I was criticizing his open borders policy before then. I was jumping down his throat for keeping Minetta on the Cabinet too. Late in 2004, he came out with that statement of Islam is Peace. By December, we should have started impeachment proceedings.
Well, that ought to curb crime./s
Cancer. Cut it out. Incinerate the excised matter.
Glad to hear that. She's been a ferocious anti-open borders poster...managing to bring me back into posting on those threads...as well as she having long been a contender of the harpies whenever she wouldn't pay adoration to even his color tie, etc.
Late in 2004, he came out with that statement of Islam is Peace. By December, we should have started impeachment proceedings.
As far as the former, I recall my own outrage; as for the latter...I recall outcries for that around then. IMO, it's even more justified now, but it goes nowhere. It's very discouraging what is being played, and there seems to be darned little we can do but voice our concerns to our elected officials...which, in many cases, such as my own (Clinton and Schumer....ugh), falls on deaf ears.
ping
Bush has has more than adequate events occur during his time in Office to realize that his course is not the right one for this Republic. In my opinion he has no desire to maintain or strengthen our national sovereignty. His Oath of Office is the last thing on his mind when he wakes up in the morning, that is obvious.
His refusal to put up a fence on our Southern border for the past six years has permitted millions of illegal aliens and terrorists to enter into America. Don’t give me any garbage about his strengthening the Border Patrol, that’s pure crap. A virtual fence is worthless and you know it or else he would install one around the White House to show their effectiveness to us all.
None of these problems are solely his but he has had the authority to correct them and he refuses to do so! That is the same as supporting them, isn’t it?
Before you reply read these, if you will.
Crime Without Consequence - Drug runners go free (No prosecution for illegal alien dealers in AZ)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1877195/posts
The Arsenal of the Iraq Insurgency - It’s made in China.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1877069/posts
States Pick Up Where Congress Left Off of Immigration Law
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1877023/posts
Bush’s base splits over sea treaty
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1861153/posts
Indeed! Or, in the alternative, he'd remove the fence encircling the White House to show how safe he is living in OPEN BORDERS.
None of these problems are solely his but he has had the authority to correct them and he refuses to do so! That is the same as supporting them, isnt it?
Absolutely! Just as silence or inaction when observing a wrongdoing is, by default, approval.
:0) And there I was, trying to behave tonight and not mention the lovely tie... ::)
ooops
fired! : )
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