Posted on 08/02/2007 6:36:11 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
O'Reilly Factor Partial Transcript of the interview with Kristinn on 7-31-07
Transcript From the July 31 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
"From the July 31 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: In the "Impact" segment tonight, as we've been reporting, the hate website Daily Kos has intimidated the Democratic presidential candidates with the exception of Senator Biden. So they are speaking at the Kos convention this coming weekend. There's no question that the most vile stuff imaginable is posted on this hate site and others like it.
Now, some on the left justify the garbage by pointing to right-wing websites like FreeRepublic.com, whose postings can get nasty as well.
With us now in the studio -- former Democratic Congressman Harold Ford Jr., now a Fox News analyst, and from Washington, Kristinn Taylor, a spokesperson for the Free Republic.
Mr. Taylor, I have to say, you know, we pulled a bunch of stuff off your website today and it's pretty vile; it's pretty awful. You've got some pretty sick people posting -- a couple of examples: "Homosexuals are dogs." "I hate blacks." "Hillary Clinton should be assassinated." "A stray bullet should kill her" -- and on and on and on.
TAYLOR: Well, Bill, all those things --
O'REILLY: You know, this is all on your website today.
TAYLOR: Well, all those things that you said violate our posting guidelines, and if we find them, we will remove them. That's not what we're about.
O'REILLY: What do you mean, if we find them?
TAYLOR: If we find them. We --
O'REILLY: This is what I don't understand. I found them, and it wasn't hard. And I went back and we did a trace just on me and some of the stuff that has been posted about me on your website, and it's just unbelievable. But when you say, "if we find them," shouldn't there be somebody there supervising this website?
TAYLOR: We do have volunteer moderators.
O'REILLY: Volunteer.
TAYLOR: However, now, there are thousands upon thousands of comments that are posted to the site every day. We don't exercise prior restraint. We rely on the good sense of people that are posting there, and 99 percent of them are good people who stay within our guidelines.
O'REILLY: OK.
TAYLOR: You also have people that come on the site deliberately to post things to make the site look bad.
O'REILLY: That's right.
TAYLOR: We used to have people that would post hardcore pornography pictures.
O'REILLY: But here -- let me give you -- let me give you some advice. That's the same argument that the left-wing Nazi hate sites make -- that it's not really them; it's others. Don't you have an obligation to the country to have not volunteers, but to have a professional person sit there and enforce some kind of standards for your website?
TAYLOR: It costs money, Bill. It costs money. Free Republic operates on donations.
O'REILLY: You got a lot people -- you know what? I bet you if you asked for donations for that, you would be able -- because as you said, most people are good people who come in. They would give you money so that they wouldn't have to be besmirched by these sick people. And they're sick.
But you're right, a lot of it's planted. And a lot of it is just crazy people who are surfing. But I believe you have an obligation, Mr. Taylor, to clean this thing up. It doesn't do you any good, because that's what they seize on.
TAYLOR: We do. I agree with you, Bill, and whenever we find it -- if I find it -- I report it to our moderators and they take care of it.
O'REILLY: All right. Well, you should do a better job because just today this is vile, hateful stuff.
Now, Harold Ford Jr. was the subject of some of this when you ran the last time around. But I have to say, and this is absolutely my opinion, I looked at Free Republic and I looked at Daily Kos, and Daily Kos is far worse. They revel in this kind of stuff.
The cartoon last night we showed of President Bush and Joseph Lieberman -- way beyond anything of free speech. It's hate. It's hate.
Now, you as an African-American, and you as somebody who's been subjected to hate, I mean, why aren't the Democrats distancing themselves from this?
FORD: Well, let me be clear. I'm not here to represent Daily Kos or Free Republic. I'm a believer and a supporter of free speech.
Nonetheless, there comes a time in political debate when one would hope it would be elevated to discussing the big, big issues. I'm the chair of a group called the Democratic Leadership Council. We've been subjected to untrue and awful and malicious things by a number of different websites.
We just continue to move forward and trek ahead. I do think that there's a lot to be said for providing resources and people who support these sites, the good people who may believe in -- what I don't understand is what Free Republic, frankly, believes in, because if you feel comfortable enough to post "I hate blacks" on a website -- you don't find people posting that on a Fox News website. So, there must --
O'REILLY: No, you don't, because we have standards. And that's what I told Mr. Taylor, that he's got to be more vigilant and hire somebody professionally to regulate it......"
What O'Reilly said relative to the links provided by his producer are not mere mischaracterizations, they are out and out lies. Nothing in the bold was an accurate description of the posts here.
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Links provided by O'Reilly Factor Producer
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O'Reilly Factor Provides Free Republic Offending Comments Links
I received an e-mail today from the Fox News producer who booked me for the O'Reilly Factor last night. The links have been forwarded to Jim Robinson for review.
Jim asked me to start a thread with the links so that Freepers, and everyone else, could see for themselves what the fuss is about.
The Hillary Clinton stray bullet assassination comment was a very bad joke comment that someone posted two days ago. It was flagged last night after the O'Reilly Factor broadcast and was removed by a moderator. It is available for the time being in Google cache:
To: Virginia Ridgerunner I like my scenario better:
After eight years of the economy faltering, interest rates are 19%, 900,000 people are dead in Iraq since we left, taxes have gone up by 60% and Chile, Bolivia and Columbia are now Communist regimes, a stray bullet at a NARAL rally catches President Clinton and kills her.
As they take away Cindy Sheehan she screams why did she have to remove the troops? We were winning.
The next day the dow goes up 2000 points and closes at 2150.
4 posted on 07/30/2007 11:00:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal then others.")
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Don't even bother trying to defend that one. Assassination jokes have no place on Free Republic. Yes, Cindy Sheehan has written of her fantasizies about killing President Bush--and she's not joking, but that's her problem. We're better than that.
The "homosexuals are dogs" comment is taken out of context. The actual quote is "Homosexuals are the modern day dogs in the manger." That was in reference to an article about proprieters in the U.K. not being allowed to deny hotel accomodations to homosexual couples on account of religious belief.
The American Heritage online dictionary gives this description for the phrase: dog in the manger, NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. dogs in the manger. One who prevents others from enjoying what one has no use for oneself. ETYMOLOGY: From a fable in which a dog prevented an ox from eating hay he did not want himself.
That comment was posted two days ago and has also been removed by the moderators. It is available for now in Google cache.
The "I hate blacks" comment was nowhere to be found in the other threads referenced.
The threads are about crime in the black community, gangsta culture and Jesse Jackson. Two of the threads are in the Smoky Backroom.
Homosexuals+are+the+modern-day+dogs+in+the+manger
Time for the Truth About Black Crime Rates
Jesse Jackson interview about Imus
Sagging Pants May Have Contributed To Fatal Shooting
stray+bullet+at+a+NARAL+rally+catches+President
Spoken like a true newbie who has the scent of a TROLL.
Remember where you are my friend, and Rush's personal Rx has been debated on here many times, and the effort against him had been motivated by Dimocrap operatives to defame him and take him off the air. They failed.
And so will you if you are not careful.[/quote]
OMG, so sorry, just an attempt at humor, not meant to be an offensive attack,
since Rush himself constantly jokes about how great he is, "El Rushbo", "talent on loan from god" etc. and then the MSM libs finally found a chink in his armor with the meds incident,I just thought it would be humorous to suggest that only rush himself would come online to proclaim his godlike status IMO Rush is great, but he's just a political pundit,c'mon lighten up
SHEESH ! !
I liked to listen more in the Reagan and then Carter years, he's been pretty boring lately.....
My entertainment talk show list these days goes,
1. Laura Ingraham
2. Good Morning America
3. Sean Hannity
3 rush limbagh
4. Savage Nation
Hillary has her own scrotum, thank you
I don't watch O'Reilly on tv - but then I don't watch ANYone on tv, because I don't watch tv.
I _do_ read Bill's columns when I find them in the editorial pages of The New York Post at work.
And I have also read his book, "Culture Warrior", which I enjoyed.
Having said that, I find Mr. Reilly to be right-on on nearly every topic that he takes up. He claims he has no problem poking at the right as well as the left, and I believe him. Sometimes the jabs at the right are well-deserved, as well.
Others have accused O'Reilly of being "lowbrow", but that's fine with me, the typical lowbrow neanderthal.
My advice to Bill is to keep doing what he's doing. Just fine with me.
Let's get on to more important things.
- John
Then stay off the thread.
A relative of mine sent Mr. O. a letter when he stated an error about the Middle East to Daniel Pipes of all people. Since that time, Mr. O. has been better on the topic so he does look at his mail and sometimes learns from it. I have a feeling he will back off on the FR attacks. I sure hope so. The “moral equivalency” thing does not work.
Indeed, and O'Reilly has show he can certainly be a nitwit by trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
The absolutely only way to do what O’Reilly suggests is as you say, preview every post. That would effectively take away one of the things that makes FR great, which is the flow of conversation that is so fast as to make it almost like a chat room, a free flowing conversation that gives birth to great ideas and a confluence of minds which gives us great moments like Rathergate.
His suggestion that paid moderators would somehow do a better job of pulling posts that cross the line than volunteers really makes no sense. It’s simply an issue of volume and paid or volunteer there simply wouldn’t be the manpower to watch every post.
Besides, I think Mr. O’Reilly should realize the internet is not static. There’s no break for commercial or edit the tape. A thinking person should understand a site as big as FR, every now and then there’s going to be something unacceptable posted and every now and then a post like that will slip through.
How anyone can compare sites like Kos or DU, where entire threads are devoted to hateful comments, to a site like FR, where the vast majority of the time the posts are well within the bounds of polite conversation.
O’Reilly also left out the fact than even when a post doesn’t go so far as to need to be pulled, the offending poster is often berated by other posters for being hateful or unChristian.
BOR is dishonest? What a surprise!
His swiftboat stuff caused me to raise my eyebrows. I finally figured it out when that sexual harassment allegation came out shortly afterward. (I don’t know if there was anything to the charge, but I think he was basically trying to win some favor with the left because he knew this was about to hit the fan.) My last straw with BOR was when he suggested Shawn Hornbeck stayed with his captor because he was getting a better deal there than with his real parents. Then, when the public was outraged, he tried to spin his way out of it by claiming the leftists were taking him out of context.
Sometimes O’Reilly gets himself so worked up on an issue, you can almost see the last vestige of logic leave his head.
On some things he is dead on. Immigration and child predators for example.
But when it comes to things like this (and technology in general), he has not a clue IMO.
I used to watch BO every night and thought he was very sensible. After this stunt I’m done. I sure hope the rest of Fox News doesn’t follow his lead, or they’ll have no viewers left.
BO is a pervert who should be taken off the air and taught a thing or two.
I used to watch BO every night and thought he was very sensible. After this stunt I’m done. I sure hope the rest of Fox News doesn’t follow his lead, or they’ll have no viewers left.
BO is a pervert who should be taken off the air and taught a thing or two.
His method and style are more like Olbermann every week!
I don’t know why anyone is surprised by this. I could see this coming the moment he took on the Daily Kos. What BOR fails to acknowledge is there is a big difference between hate coming down from the top — as illustrated by Markos — and the comments of a rogue few anonymous posters. You don’t have Jim Robinson writing the kind of hateful stuff Markos writes. Kos called our troops mercenaries and said he feels nothing when they die. I don’t think, (or I hope) you don’t see parallel hate like that from Robinson. That said, I do think there are those who make us look bad with their posts and it is up to us to call them on it. I have often cautioned against this. I took issue with the D.C area freepers for calling code pink types “hags” and you would have thought I was Jane Fonda from their reaction — and this was something under Kristinn’s lead. I do think people like Kristinn and Jim have an obligation to call for civility when they have a chance to see things getting out of hand.
LOL! So he’s a “pervert”, but you were fine watching him until this stunt?
The problem with Bill’s logic is the poisoning the well fallacy: Bob is a kitten-lover. Bob is a child-molester. Therefore all kitten-lovers are child-molesters. (Hyphenation is intentional to clarify the syllogism, of which there are 2^8, or 256, combinations, most fallacious.)
Got a new title in honor of O’Reilly’s, non-mention, non-retraction performance tonight.
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