Posted on 08/01/2007 4:09:49 PM PDT by kristinn
Edited on 08/01/2007 4:30:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I received an e-mail today from the Fox News producer who booked me for the O'Reilly Factor last night. The links have been forwarded to Jim Robinson for review.
Jim asked me to start a thread with the links so that Freepers, and everyone else, could see for themselves what the fuss is about.
The Hillary Clinton stray bullet assassination comment was a very bad joke comment that someone posted two days ago. It was flagged last night after the O'Reilly Factor broadcast and was removed by a moderator. It is available for the time being in Google cache:
To: Virginia Ridgerunner I like my scenario better:
After eight years of the economy faltering, interest rates are 19%, 900,000 people are dead in Iraq since we left, taxes have gone up by 60% and Chile, Bolivia and Columbia are now Communist regimes, a stray bullet at a NARAL rally catches President Clinton and kills her.
As they take away Cindy Sheehan she screams why did she have to remove the troops? We were winning.
The next day the dow goes up 2000 points and closes at 2150.
4 posted on 07/30/2007 11:00:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal then others.")
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Don't even bother trying to defend that one. Assassination jokes have no place on Free Republic. Yes, Cindy Sheehan has written of her fantasizies about killing President Bush--and she's not joking, but that's her problem. We're better than that.
The "homosexuals are dogs" comment is taken out of context. The actual quote is "Homosexuals are the modern day dogs in the manger." That was in reference to an article about proprieters in the U.K. not being allowed to deny hotel accomodations to homosexual couples on account of religious belief.
The American Heritage online dictionary gives this description for the phrase: dog in the manger, NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. dogs in the manger. One who prevents others from enjoying what one has no use for oneself. ETYMOLOGY: From a fable in which a dog prevented an ox from eating hay he did not want himself.
That comment was posted two days ago and has also been removed by the moderators. It is available for now in Google cache.
The "I hate blacks" comment was nowhere to be found in the other threads referenced.
The threads are about crime in the black community, gangsta culture and Jesse Jackson. Two of the threads are in the Smoky Backroom.
Homosexuals+are+the+modern-day+dogs+in+the+manger
Time for the Truth About Black Crime Rates
Jesse Jackson interview about Imus
Sagging Pants May Have Contributed To Fatal Shooting
stray+bullet+at+a+NARAL+rally+catches+President
Yup, it was a drive by media attack.
“...there are a large number of people on here that should keep their mouth shut most of the time”
Good point. Maybe you should start with yourself?
I second that, hear! hear!
Yes it is.
But talk of banning that poster is also overkill.
The entire quote set up a future where the dreams of liberals were coming true. (Well, except for the guns part)
It was a poster's attempt at absurdity, satire, and/or pot stirring....like we've never seen that on FR before!
I think the current discussion (which I am sure EQ A B is following) should be adequate to mark the line between 'tasteless' and taboo.
That said; I'd also restore the 'dog in the manger' post, it can't hurt to send people to their reference books once in awhile.
(Did I mention that BO'R is a jerk?)
Thank you for proving my point.
Bill’s “crack staff” could only find this little amount?
And one of them was taken out of context?
You can look on DailyKOS (Daily Chaos) and find much more on practically every thread, every single day!
O’Reilly owes Jim Robinson and the FReepers a public apology!
So, rkv, let me see if I understand:
Because bender wants to send the owners of three gun shops who are (apparently) supplying guns to thugs illegally (note, RKV, he said in his original post "if these gun shops are violating the law") you think he may be a nazi.
Please explain your problem with what he suggested ... and/or how that leads you to believe he may be a nazi ... or was it just a late night drunk post in the first place
“Sorry but Free Republic is full of disgusting comments.”
I agree. By the way people responded to you, you hit a nerve. Instead of calling you a troll, maybe they should have looked around a little.
I have been here a looong time and this place is getting a little too lax on allowing personal attacks in the name of free speech.
I only caught the last few seconds of the interview the other day...I have read all the posts here and a thread from after the show and can only say that I am very disappointed with BOR on this. First the attacks on the Swift Boat Vetts and now another unjust attack on Freepers...anything short of a full apology will not suffice. I stopped watching the Shep News hour after the Katrina fiasco...BOR’s got a full count in the bottom of the ninth at this moment.
Kristinn, the little of the interview I did see and from what I’ve read...Thank You for representing FR!!!
I posted on one of those threads, and I’m still proud of my posts, their truthfulness and accuracy is not challengeable in my opinion.
Well, it does look like you stepped on a hornet’s nest. While you’re goin’ around correctin’ things, could you please correct your tagline?
...some are more equal THAN others
Don’t understand why any of those comments were removed. Not a real death threat just satire. Dogs in manager phrase actually is meaningful not hateful.
Lets not allow people like O’reilly make us politically correct.
AND why do we care what that blowhard has to say anyways?
After this, I hate O’Reilly. Does that count?
He has mentioned KOS, but not FR (as of yet)
More comments about KOS being dispicable site.
The opportunity you speak of--to sit back and revel in the thought that O'Reilly did FR a favor and to not blow it by even so much as commenting--I don't think that any person of integrity could do that.
FR is not the place of hate Bill states it is. His examples were flawed; and as he always says, "End of story."
I think people in the U.S. already understand that the Daily K is not Special K and they don't want what the flakes of the Left are "selling."
I have a hard time with white shoes...tennis shoes-yes, sandles-perhaps... As a woman of taste...I just cannot authorize the wearing of the white pump....sorry ;-)
Our 39 and all most 41 year old sons learned this fable when it was read to them before they went to kindergarden.
Our grandchildren, 6 and 8 years old, learned this fable before they went to preschool. Both of them have used it correctly since then to describe “Dog in the Manager behavior”.
BOR knows this, and he is just trying to be sensational and actually shows how shallow he is, and how dumb he thinks his audience is.
Freepers, who are ticked off about this should become monthly donors to FR if they aren’t monthly donors.
We haven’t watched BOR for years. He is not a conservative. He is a muckraker.
http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/~hayward/van/glossary/manger.html
Glossary entry for
dog in the manger
From Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase & Fable:
A mean-spirited individual who will not use what is wanted by another, nor yet let the other have it to use; one who prevents another enjoying something without any benefit to himself. The allusion is to the fable of the dog that fixed his place in a manger and would not allow the ox to come near the hay but would not eat it himself.
From The Dictionary of Cultural Literacy:
A person who spitefully refuses to let someone else benefit from something for which he or she has no personal use: “We asked our neighbor for the fence posts he had left over, but, like a dog in the manger, he threw them out rather than give them to us.” The phrase comes from one of Aesop’s fables, about a dog lying in a manger full of hay. When an ox tries to eat some hay, the dog bites him, despite the fact that the hay is of no use to the dog.
After four years of the economy faltering, interest rates are 19%, 900,000 people are dead in Vietnam since we left, maximum federal personal income tax rates are 70% and Iran is now Islamo fascist regime, President Carter announces his “moral equivalent of war” to reduce our dependence on imported oil.
As they take away Jane Fonda she screams why did she have to remove the troops? We were winning.
Two years later the Dow soars to record levels on the expectation of Reagan’s tax cuts being enacted into law.
There now, it’s fixed.
“O’Reilly is grasping at straws. Ooops! He’ll probably now say that I accused him of stealing from McDonalds.”
Lol!
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