Posted on 08/01/2007 4:09:49 PM PDT by kristinn
Edited on 08/01/2007 4:30:51 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
I received an e-mail today from the Fox News producer who booked me for the O'Reilly Factor last night. The links have been forwarded to Jim Robinson for review.
Jim asked me to start a thread with the links so that Freepers, and everyone else, could see for themselves what the fuss is about.
The Hillary Clinton stray bullet assassination comment was a very bad joke comment that someone posted two days ago. It was flagged last night after the O'Reilly Factor broadcast and was removed by a moderator. It is available for the time being in Google cache:
To: Virginia Ridgerunner I like my scenario better:
After eight years of the economy faltering, interest rates are 19%, 900,000 people are dead in Iraq since we left, taxes have gone up by 60% and Chile, Bolivia and Columbia are now Communist regimes, a stray bullet at a NARAL rally catches President Clinton and kills her.
As they take away Cindy Sheehan she screams why did she have to remove the troops? We were winning.
The next day the dow goes up 2000 points and closes at 2150.
4 posted on 07/30/2007 11:00:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal then others.")
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Don't even bother trying to defend that one. Assassination jokes have no place on Free Republic. Yes, Cindy Sheehan has written of her fantasizies about killing President Bush--and she's not joking, but that's her problem. We're better than that.
The "homosexuals are dogs" comment is taken out of context. The actual quote is "Homosexuals are the modern day dogs in the manger." That was in reference to an article about proprieters in the U.K. not being allowed to deny hotel accomodations to homosexual couples on account of religious belief.
The American Heritage online dictionary gives this description for the phrase: dog in the manger, NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. dogs in the manger. One who prevents others from enjoying what one has no use for oneself. ETYMOLOGY: From a fable in which a dog prevented an ox from eating hay he did not want himself.
That comment was posted two days ago and has also been removed by the moderators. It is available for now in Google cache.
The "I hate blacks" comment was nowhere to be found in the other threads referenced.
The threads are about crime in the black community, gangsta culture and Jesse Jackson. Two of the threads are in the Smoky Backroom.
Homosexuals+are+the+modern-day+dogs+in+the+manger
Time for the Truth About Black Crime Rates
Jesse Jackson interview about Imus
Sagging Pants May Have Contributed To Fatal Shooting
stray+bullet+at+a+NARAL+rally+catches+President
“His purported 2 million person audience (less than 1% of the country) consists of senior citizens who leave the television on in the background, usually nodding off in the LayZBoy after an early dinner at the Hometown Buffet.”
Hardly, BO is number one by far in the 25-54 demographics.
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/default.asp
“A rep from Kos was there . . .”
Maybe some other time, but nobody from Kos was there when Kristinn was.
The guy on BOR at the same time as Kristinn was former Congressman Harold Ford, Jr. (D-TN), now also chairman of the Democratic Leadership Conference (DLC). Kos kids dislike the DLC the way most FReepers dislike RINOs.
That is DVR data.
"From the July 31 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:
O'REILLY: In the "Impact" segment tonight, as we've been reporting, the hate website Daily Kos has intimidated the Democratic presidential candidates with the exception of Senator Biden. So they are speaking at the Kos convention this coming weekend. There's no question that the most vile stuff imaginable is posted on this hate site and others like it.
Now, some on the left justify the garbage by pointing to right-wing websites like FreeRepublic.com, whose postings can get nasty as well.
With us now in the studio -- former Democratic Congressman Harold Ford Jr., now a Fox News analyst, and from Washington, Kristinn Taylor, a spokesperson for the Free Republic.
Mr. Taylor, I have to say, you know, we pulled a bunch of stuff off your website today and it's pretty vile; it's pretty awful. You've got some pretty sick people posting -- a couple of examples: "Homosexuals are dogs." "I hate blacks." "Hillary Clinton should be assassinated." "A stray bullet should kill her" -- and on and on and on.
TAYLOR: Well, Bill, all those things --
O'REILLY: You know, this is all on your website today.
TAYLOR: Well, all those things that you said violate our posting guidelines, and if we find them, we will remove them. That's not what we're about.
O'REILLY: What do you mean, if we find them?
TAYLOR: If we find them. We --
O'REILLY: This is what I don't understand. I found them, and it wasn't hard. And I went back and we did a trace just on me and some of the stuff that has been posted about me on your website, and it's just unbelievable. But when you say, "if we find them," shouldn't there be somebody there supervising this website?
TAYLOR: We do have volunteer moderators.
O'REILLY: Volunteer.
TAYLOR: However, now, there are thousands upon thousands of comments that are posted to the site every day. We don't exercise prior restraint. We rely on the good sense of people that are posting there, and 99 percent of them are good people who stay within our guidelines.
O'REILLY: OK.
TAYLOR: You also have people that come on the site deliberately to post things to make the site look bad.
O'REILLY: That's right.
TAYLOR: We used to have people that would post hardcore pornography pictures.
O'REILLY: But here -- let me give you -- let me give you some advice. That's the same argument that the left-wing Nazi hate sites make -- that it's not really them; it's others. Don't you have an obligation to the country to have not volunteers, but to have a professional person sit there and enforce some kind of standards for your website?
TAYLOR: It costs money, Bill. It costs money. Free Republic operates on donations.
O'REILLY: You got a lot people -- you know what? I bet you if you asked for donations for that, you would be able -- because as you said, most people are good people who come in. They would give you money so that they wouldn't have to be besmirched by these sick people. And they're sick.
But you're right, a lot of it's planted. And a lot of it is just crazy people who are surfing. But I believe you have an obligation, Mr. Taylor, to clean this thing up. It doesn't do you any good, because that's what they seize on.
TAYLOR: We do. I agree with you, Bill, and whenever we find it -- if I find it -- I report it to our moderators and they take care of it.
O'REILLY: All right. Well, you should do a better job because just today this is vile, hateful stuff.
Now, Harold Ford Jr. was the subject of some of this when you ran the last time around. But I have to say, and this is absolutely my opinion, I looked at Free Republic and I looked at Daily Kos, and Daily Kos is far worse. They revel in this kind of stuff.
The cartoon last night we showed of President Bush and Joseph Lieberman -- way beyond anything of free speech. It's hate. It's hate.
Now, you as an African-American, and you as somebody who's been subjected to hate, I mean, why aren't the Democrats distancing themselves from this?
FORD: Well, let me be clear. I'm not here to represent Daily Kos or Free Republic. I'm a believer and a supporter of free speech.
Nonetheless, there comes a time in political debate when one would hope it would be elevated to discussing the big, big issues. I'm the chair of a group called the Democratic Leadership Council. We've been subjected to untrue and awful and malicious things by a number of different websites.
We just continue to move forward and trek ahead. I do think that there's a lot to be said for providing resources and people who support these sites, the good people who may believe in -- what I don't understand is what Free Republic, frankly, believes in, because if you feel comfortable enough to post "I hate blacks" on a website -- you don't find people posting that on a Fox News website. So, there must --
O'REILLY: No, you don't, because we have standards. And that's what I told Mr. Taylor, that he's got to be more vigilant and hire somebody professionally to regulate it......"
What O'Reilly said relative to the links provided by his producer are not mere mischaracterizations, they are out and out lies. Nothing in the bold was an accurate description of the posts here.
O’Reilly would rather eat............
Yep, somone is trying to make silentknight look like a real wanker.
Data by Nielsen Media Research. Live and same day (DVR) data.
Maybe he means comments like this:
Or maybe he means “humor” like this:
Posted by philetus to aomagrat On News/Activism 08/01/2007 12:24:26 AM CDT · 54 of 69
My baby had a fever so I thought if I put him in the freezer.....
My baby was all wet so I thought if I put him in the oven.....”
That wasn’t meant to be humor, but like BOR, you’ll quote it out of context.
Oh really? This was your ENTIRE post and it was not in reply to any other poster but was posted to this article:
Two small children who had been left in a hot car while their mother was at work were later found dead, their bodies in trash bags under an apartment sink, authorities said Tuesday
Pretty sick if you ask me.
So why didnt you post the 2.1 million viewers who arent in that “young” demographic?
Still half of Katie Couric’s numbers...in both young and old.
Revelation 22:15
Stray ones, yes. Intentional ones, not as rare as we'd like. Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley, and of course Kennedy were all assassinated by via gunshots. Attempted assassinations by gunfire include Jackson (guns misfired),T. Roosevelt was shot while running for a third (non continuous) term as a "Bull Moose", Truman was shot at, sort of, by two Puerto Rican "nationalists", (the surviving one was pardoned by J. Carter), two attempts were made to shoot Ford, although a shot was only fired in one of them, and of course Ronald Reagan was also shot.
I'm sure there are plenty of both "free lance" and "organized" Jihadies that would like to have a go at President Bush.
The children’s mother, Sametta Heyward, 27, had taken them to work Monday in downtown Charleston and left them in her car all day as the temperature outside rose to 88 degrees”
Sounds to me like she would be stupid enough to do the other things.
Sorry if I offended your sensibilities.
"O'REILLY: No, you don't, because we have standards. . . ."
Hate talk on Fox News?
if the dogs in the manger post is an allegory then why did the mods remove it?
the assasination thing was taken out of context....maybe a bit tacky but hardly a call for killing Hillary.
I appreciate your efforts Kristinn but trust me....satisfying a blowhard like O’Reilly who is decent on occasion but loathsome on others is a fool’s bargain.
He wins....I would not kneejerk for Bill O’Reilly.....this is what is wrong with our culture....folks worry about phantom bogeyman who prey on favored groups yet ignore blatant poor behavior from said favored groups...the same behavior scorned when directed at them
I have some questions for O’Reilly while we’re on character speak....geez....what chutzpah he has
not in my minds eye....didn't Liz Weihl do O'Reilly's digging on this...she's cute but a big social lefty
i bet a traitor freeper who also does wideawakes did this
He was in a hurry and was careless, reckless and defamatory; not a good combination.
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