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Swat Somebody's Butt And Yours Belongs To The D.A (Mark Steyn On Oregon Nifong Excess Alert)
Orange County Register ^ | 07/29/2007 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 07/29/2007 3:20:00 AM PDT by goldstategop

District Attorney Berry told reporter Susan Goldsmith of the Oregonian that his department "aggressively" pursues sex crimes. "These cases are devastating to children," he said. "They are life-altering cases."

No, sir. The only one devastating children's lives is you. If you "win," and these "criminals" are convicted, 20, 30 years from now – applying for a job, volunteering for a community program, heading north for a weekend in Vancouver and watching the Customs guard swipe the driver's license through the computer – there'll be a blip, something will come up on the screen, and for the umpteenth time two middle-age men will realize they bear a mark that can never be expunged. Because decades ago they patted their pals on the rear in a middle-school corridor.

A world that requires handcuffs and judges and district attorneys for what took place that Friday in February is not just a failed education system but an entire society that's losing any sense of proportion. Without which, civilized life becomes impossible. So we legalize more and more aspects of life and demand that district attorneys prosecute ever more aggressively what were once routine areas of social interaction.

A society that looses the state to criminalize schoolroom horseplay is guilty not only of punishing children as grown-ups but of the infantilization of the entire citizenry.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: butswatting; corymashburn; discipline; horseplay; kids; marksteyn; mcminville; ocregister; oregonnifong; outofcontrol; prosecutorialexcess; ryancornelison; zerotolerance
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If your kid swats a butt in old-fashioned horseplay, in Oregon, the local Mike Nifong will seek to have your child prosecuted and convicted as a sex offender. Not kidding! I leave it to Mark Steyn to have the final word this morning:

20, 30 years from now – applying for a job, volunteering for a community program, heading north for a weekend in Vancouver and watching the Customs guard swipe the driver's license through the computer – there'll be a blip, something will come up on the screen, and for the umpteenth time two middle-age men will realize they bear a mark that can never be expunged. Because decades ago they patted their pals on the rear in a middle-school corridor.

A world that requires handcuffs and judges and district attorneys for what took place that Friday in February is not just a failed education system but an entire society that's losing any sense of proportion. Without which, civilized life becomes impossible. So we legalize more and more aspects of life and demand that district attorneys prosecute ever more aggressively what were once routine areas of social interaction.

A society that looses the state to criminalize schoolroom horseplay is guilty not only of punishing children as grown-ups but of the infantilization of the entire citizenry.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 07/29/2007 3:20:10 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

Crime ‘prevention’ is a good thing, right??

Somewhere in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s we, as a society, made the decision to shift our crime-fighting emphasis from ‘retribution and deterrence’ to ‘prevention’, and, in so doing, we opened the flap of a very small tent to the nose of a very large camel.

In the name of ‘prevention’, it’s become necessary to criminalize the *potential* to cause harm — and since there is almost no human activity that doesn’t potentially cause some harm to somebody, we’ve, in effect, made ‘criminals’ of every one of us...

The logical end of this is to criminalize risk, of any kind - and that end is in sight.....


2 posted on 07/29/2007 3:38:01 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: Uncle Ike
Those children should just have been given a lecture by the principle and sent home. There was no need to treat them like criminals, have the police arrest them and put them in jail for what? As for the D.A, if I was a parent hearing that idiotic blather about my child being a "sex offender" he would find himself on the receiving of my fist smashing into his face. Any one who does THAT to a child deserves what they get for being a bully - a bully with a badge.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 07/29/2007 3:49:46 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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So we legalize more and more aspects of life and demand that district attorneys prosecute ever more aggressively what were once routine areas of social interaction.

Amen. Homosexuality and child sacrifice (Abortion) are legalized and celebrated, while at this very second a "Hate Crimes" rider was put into the Defense Appropriations bill (so it would go unnoticed and be signed) that will open the door to persecution against Christians and Jews who speak against evil.

Kennedy cramming hate crimes into defense bill 'Shameless attempt to push homosexual agenda ... by exploiting soldiers'

4 posted on 07/29/2007 3:53:00 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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Also, the school principal and vice principal need to lose their jobs over this. Totally inappropriate over-reaction that shows poor decision making abilities.


5 posted on 07/29/2007 3:54:31 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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And the DA needs to be Nifonged before he does more damage to small children.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 07/29/2007 3:55:29 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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If Bush wanted to make a popular move and gain back some support, he should give these kids a pardon and invite them to the Whitehouse.


7 posted on 07/29/2007 3:58:18 AM PDT by Raycpa
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along with the girl “victim”.


8 posted on 07/29/2007 3:59:07 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: savedbygrace

“Also, the school principal and vice principal need to lose their jobs over this. “

They need to be prosecuted, and banned from any responsible position for life.


9 posted on 07/29/2007 4:16:45 AM PDT by dsc (There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. Edmund Burke)
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To: goldstategop
They aggressively pursue to point where common sense takes leave; and only insanity is left.
10 posted on 07/29/2007 4:26:44 AM PDT by freekitty
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A problem that could be solved by the GOP is to show how "law and order" has become way too much government and needs to be dialed back. Spend a few dollars asking the world "what happened to common sense?" and you elect some conservatives.

The GOP in the golden state, in which I was born, could gain huge majorities if they asked this question - "what has happened to our schools?" At one time they ranked in the top five now they are in the bottom ten. Then show how the libs and the dems have taxed everyone and the more they tax the worse the education!! This could be said for most lib states and cities. Where is the common sense?

11 posted on 07/29/2007 4:32:42 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: Uncle Ike

Hey I like your screenname.. In Ike’s time people were crying for the government to criminalize all sorts of things to keep people safe.. Eisenhower told them we could put everyone in jail, give them 3 meals a day and keep them safe but its not really living.


12 posted on 07/29/2007 4:36:00 AM PDT by ran20
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To: freekitty
We are at the insanity level.

As the other poster mentioned, homosexuality in all its deviancy...abortions (dismemberment & killing of babies) are lauded, protected....

..and these two kids (one I saw on TV)...will be hounded the rest of their lives.

13 posted on 07/29/2007 4:38:03 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President 2008!!!)
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To: q_an_a

One thing I mentioned on another thread is republican politicians often act like they are the victim nearly in things like the pc agenda or gay agenda in schools. Yet republicans have held the majority of governorships in recent times, and usually had the presidency.

The bureaucracy seems to just run roughshod over them, and they are helpless against it.


14 posted on 07/29/2007 4:38:11 AM PDT by ran20
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To: goldstategop

Isn’t Oregon the state that passed a law saying public sex was OK?


15 posted on 07/29/2007 4:43:37 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: goldstategop
District Attorney Berry told reporter Susan Goldsmith of the Oregonian that his department "aggressively" pursues sex crimes. "These cases are devastating to children," he said. "They are life-altering cases."

Hmmmm......so does the DA have any comments as to WHY the girls in this case ARE NOT being "aggressively" prosecuted ????

In other articles some of the girl (*victims*) admit to 'butt slapping' the boys.

16 posted on 07/29/2007 4:51:40 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: goldstategop
So, is anyone really surprised when we find, ahem, “educators” and self-important “public servants” worshiping at the Liberal altar of hyper ventilated political correctness?

And these same self-deluded activists who regard themselves as so courageously enlightened and sensitive turn a blind eye to the slaughter of millions of unborn babies because Liberal orthodoxy says those tiny infants are simply “choices”, just like whether to have steak or chicken for dinner.

I expect the MSM, if they cover this at all, to go out of their way to provide cover for their ideological comrades. They will provide detailed reports about how the “educators” and “public servants” wrestled endlessly with their consciences and strove mightily to do whats right, ad nauseum.

17 posted on 07/29/2007 5:01:33 AM PDT by Carbonado ("Islame-ic radical" is a redundant term, just like "Leftist journalist")
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The GOP in the golden state, in which I was born, could gain huge majorities if they asked this question - "what has happened to our schools?" At one time they ranked in the top five now they are in the bottom ten.

I have no detailed knowledge at all about California public schools (other than my elderly California-schooled parents being some of the best educated persons I know...), but I suspect that when Political Correctness shacked up with Illegal Immigration their kid was named Ignorance.

18 posted on 07/29/2007 5:10:53 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: goldstategop

When I was that age, we boys would go around “snapping” bra straps.

Now that I have outed myself, I sure hope there is a statute of limitations on “bra strap snapping”.


19 posted on 07/29/2007 5:27:24 AM PDT by gruntSGT (Genuine Certified Card Carrying Foaming at the Mouth Lindsay Graham Hater.)
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To: goldstategop

As far as these “authorities” go, it’s:

ROPE, FLAGPOLE (SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED).


20 posted on 07/29/2007 5:27:42 AM PDT by Flintlock
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