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If your kid swats a butt in old-fashioned horseplay, in Oregon, the local Mike Nifong will seek to have your child prosecuted and convicted as a sex offender. Not kidding! I leave it to Mark Steyn to have the final word this morning:

20, 30 years from now – applying for a job, volunteering for a community program, heading north for a weekend in Vancouver and watching the Customs guard swipe the driver's license through the computer – there'll be a blip, something will come up on the screen, and for the umpteenth time two middle-age men will realize they bear a mark that can never be expunged. Because decades ago they patted their pals on the rear in a middle-school corridor.

A world that requires handcuffs and judges and district attorneys for what took place that Friday in February is not just a failed education system but an entire society that's losing any sense of proportion. Without which, civilized life becomes impossible. So we legalize more and more aspects of life and demand that district attorneys prosecute ever more aggressively what were once routine areas of social interaction.

A society that looses the state to criminalize schoolroom horseplay is guilty not only of punishing children as grown-ups but of the infantilization of the entire citizenry.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 07/29/2007 3:20:10 AM PDT by goldstategop
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions...

Crime ‘prevention’ is a good thing, right??

Somewhere in the ‘60’s and ‘70’s we, as a society, made the decision to shift our crime-fighting emphasis from ‘retribution and deterrence’ to ‘prevention’, and, in so doing, we opened the flap of a very small tent to the nose of a very large camel.

In the name of ‘prevention’, it’s become necessary to criminalize the *potential* to cause harm — and since there is almost no human activity that doesn’t potentially cause some harm to somebody, we’ve, in effect, made ‘criminals’ of every one of us...

The logical end of this is to criminalize risk, of any kind - and that end is in sight.....


2 posted on 07/29/2007 3:38:01 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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So we legalize more and more aspects of life and demand that district attorneys prosecute ever more aggressively what were once routine areas of social interaction.

Amen. Homosexuality and child sacrifice (Abortion) are legalized and celebrated, while at this very second a "Hate Crimes" rider was put into the Defense Appropriations bill (so it would go unnoticed and be signed) that will open the door to persecution against Christians and Jews who speak against evil.

Kennedy cramming hate crimes into defense bill 'Shameless attempt to push homosexual agenda ... by exploiting soldiers'

4 posted on 07/29/2007 3:53:00 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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Also, the school principal and vice principal need to lose their jobs over this. Totally inappropriate over-reaction that shows poor decision making abilities.


5 posted on 07/29/2007 3:54:31 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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If Bush wanted to make a popular move and gain back some support, he should give these kids a pardon and invite them to the Whitehouse.


7 posted on 07/29/2007 3:58:18 AM PDT by Raycpa
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They aggressively pursue to point where common sense takes leave; and only insanity is left.
10 posted on 07/29/2007 4:26:44 AM PDT by freekitty
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Isn’t Oregon the state that passed a law saying public sex was OK?


15 posted on 07/29/2007 4:43:37 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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District Attorney Berry told reporter Susan Goldsmith of the Oregonian that his department "aggressively" pursues sex crimes. "These cases are devastating to children," he said. "They are life-altering cases."

Hmmmm......so does the DA have any comments as to WHY the girls in this case ARE NOT being "aggressively" prosecuted ????

In other articles some of the girl (*victims*) admit to 'butt slapping' the boys.

16 posted on 07/29/2007 4:51:40 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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So, is anyone really surprised when we find, ahem, “educators” and self-important “public servants” worshiping at the Liberal altar of hyper ventilated political correctness?

And these same self-deluded activists who regard themselves as so courageously enlightened and sensitive turn a blind eye to the slaughter of millions of unborn babies because Liberal orthodoxy says those tiny infants are simply “choices”, just like whether to have steak or chicken for dinner.

I expect the MSM, if they cover this at all, to go out of their way to provide cover for their ideological comrades. They will provide detailed reports about how the “educators” and “public servants” wrestled endlessly with their consciences and strove mightily to do whats right, ad nauseum.

17 posted on 07/29/2007 5:01:33 AM PDT by Carbonado ("Islame-ic radical" is a redundant term, just like "Leftist journalist")
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As far as these “authorities” go, it’s:

ROPE, FLAGPOLE (SOME ASSEMBLY REQUIRED).


20 posted on 07/29/2007 5:27:42 AM PDT by Flintlock
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now these kids are deemed sex predators and offenders...

the next step might be....one of them might contemplate a columbine....

then the lib/dems will cry and rant...WHY OH WHY????

pc crap run amuck!!!!!!

a petition should be started for jorge bush to pardon them!!!!


24 posted on 07/29/2007 5:50:49 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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I could be wrong, but I believe the zealous excesses of the King’s men with regards to the King’s subjects, had something to do with a war in 1776......


31 posted on 07/29/2007 6:21:16 AM PDT by mo
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I am beginning to think that to be a DA, you have to have a law degree and no common sense, none, nada, zilch, is that correct?

What bothers me greatly about this injustice is that other DA’s are not speaking out about what is happening to the boys.

Sort of like the Muslims not condemning Terrorist or Jihadists.

Of course Oregon is wedged between California and Washington so some of the inane silliness of these two wacko states may be rubbing off on Oregon.

36 posted on 07/29/2007 6:46:53 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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Within the last week, my son-in-law was accused of sexual abuse, our family vacation planned for six months was cancelled, my daughter lost custody of my grandaughter, and much more.

This was because a "therapist" misunderstood what a girl told them and reported the situation to the state, and a second girl who has a history of wild false accusations against adults reported that my son-in-law "looked at her chest and she didn't like it" (whatever that means). Even that second accusation is now in doubt, but hasn't been resolved yet.

This appears as if it will go away, but even still the state agency that is heading up the charges will retain the accusations on file forever. We have yet to find out if the charges are public domain and can be discovered by future employers in some computer scan of son-in-laws records.

Children need to be protected from sexual predators, absolutely. But there needs to be some genuine sexual predation going on, and not just improbable accusations from pre-teens that know full well they have the upper hand and cannot be held accountable themselves.

In a way, this reminds me of the Victorian era, except rather than the church enforcing idiotic standards of modesty while the back alleys are full of prostitutes, instead the state is treating normal activities and obviously false accusations with deathly seriousness, while schools teach abnormal sexual practices to first graders. Some common sense is called for, and the power of bureaucrats to teach deviancy to children while other bureaucrats go on witch hunts on parents must end.

39 posted on 07/29/2007 7:08:54 AM PDT by narby
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We live in a world were children who bring a squirt gun to school are brought up on weapons charges


44 posted on 07/29/2007 7:45:55 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Unfortunately this kind of zero-tolerance thinking is common in public schools. When my daughter was in high school, one day a boy she was friends with was being silly and basically climbed on top of her chair when they were between assignments. The students all laughed and my daughter thought nothing of it at all. They were all friends being funny in high school.

Some teacher saw it and decided it was sexual in nature. The boy got in trouble, and because my daughter did not protest and immediately report the "incident", she was prevented from attending graduation a couple of weeks later. This kind of school "justice" reminds me of the way Islam treats women who are raped. The mealy-mouthed administration said "there's nothing we can do".

45 posted on 07/29/2007 7:52:39 AM PDT by Sender (Be subtle! Be subtle! And use your squirrels for every kind of business.)
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There is a need to “purge” the radicals from the education system....we need to return to the fundamental education, and leave the social engineering at the school door....
46 posted on 07/29/2007 7:54:42 AM PDT by thinking
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You know, my main concern the way things are going these days is that if you swat somebody on the butt, you might give them brain damage.


48 posted on 07/29/2007 8:24:49 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich!)
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This is the butt-swat we got in school.
49 posted on 07/29/2007 8:33:20 AM PDT by UnklGene
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“There were no psycho butts in Mayberry”

LoL


54 posted on 07/29/2007 10:18:27 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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This situation is simply

IN - EFFING - CREDIBLE!!!!!

57 posted on 07/29/2007 10:46:01 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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