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Bush Program Unintentionally Ends Subsidy on College Birth Control
JunkYardBlog ^ | 7/26/2007 | SeeDubya

Posted on 07/26/2007 9:31:13 AM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: nmh
They aren’t, that is the point. This isn’t a case of a majority at all, but of a percentage of people who were never responsible and never will be. Might as well face it, we have to pay for these idiots one way or another and a few boxes of condoms is far cheaper than even a single month of HIV drugs. (I do agree with the spirit of your post though, your smack on right about learning to be responsible)
21 posted on 07/26/2007 9:59:12 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: Pyro7480

There is no reason the federal government should be subsidizing birth control for college students.


22 posted on 07/26/2007 10:10:25 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody; nmh

I’m surprised no one on this thread so far hasn’t voiced outrage at the colleges yet for profiting in this little endeavor. They already receive enough money as it is.


23 posted on 07/26/2007 10:13:33 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480

Interesting how the gummit will pay boys and girls(through discounts) to be sexually promiscuous, but the elderly on medicare (that they paid for all their lives) can’t get false teeth for under $3,000 so they can eat a meal without choking.

{shakes head}


24 posted on 07/26/2007 10:30:04 AM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: Pyro7480

Good if you stop selling the abrogation of bad choices some will stop choosing to pursue those bad choices (premarital sex that may result in pregnancy, which they would then use this “pill” for abortion!).

BRING BACK PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY!


25 posted on 07/26/2007 10:31:29 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Republicans if the don't beware ARE the new WHIGS! (all empty hairpieces..) :).)
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To: Pyro7480
For years, drug companies sold birth-control pills and other contraceptives to university health services at a big discount. This has served as an entree to young consumers for the drug companies...

Sort of like "Joe Camel".

26 posted on 07/26/2007 10:45:45 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: nmh

OH, no, no, no, no——

the quintessence of modern liberalism is that

they play, you pay.


27 posted on 07/26/2007 10:47:11 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Abathar
Might as well face it, we have to pay for these idiots one way or another and a few boxes of condoms is far cheaper than even a single month of HIV drugs.

Why should we be paying for HIV drugs anyway? They volunteered to get the disease (in the vast majority of cases), they can pay for it. If they can't afford the drugs, let them die and stop spreading it.

28 posted on 07/26/2007 10:52:32 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
Oh, don’t even get me started on HIV and how to stop the spread of it. My cure includes large patches of permanent purple dye, forced chemical castration for anyone caught having sex with someone other than another carrier, and complete banning of all treatments at taxpayer or insurance company expense. Maybe even quarantine to comfortable compounds, still up in the air about that.
29 posted on 07/26/2007 11:06:13 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: rljv

Guess what, wheter you want to call them “Birth Control” or “Abortofacients”, they’re legal, and looking to stay that way. These “Girls” know that they prevent pregnancy. If you don’t agree with their use, then don’t use them. These women have every right to buy and use them, and the drug companies are providing a legal product.

I’d rather they use ‘protection’ if they are going to have sex, than have unwanted children. If they’re over 18, again, there’s nothing the Feds, the Pope or anti-abortion corwd can do to stop them. Abstinence only ain’t cutting it, so provide them with the means to protect themselves.


30 posted on 07/26/2007 11:14:46 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: BritExPatInFla
Abstinence only ain’t cutting it, so provide them with the means to protect themselves.

Ha - the only way that abstinence only wouldn't cut it is if they weren't really practicing abstinence. Otherwise, abstinence is 100% effective against unwanted pregnancies and venereal diseases. The main problem is that, while you teach a kid that abstinence is the way to go, the rest of our degraded pop culture is encouraging them to run out and have as much sex as possible.
31 posted on 07/26/2007 11:38:26 AM PDT by fr_freak
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Ha - the only way that abstinence only wouldn’t cut it is if they weren’t really practicing abstinence. Otherwise, abstinence is 100% effective against unwanted pregnancies and venereal diseases. The main problem is that, while you teach a kid that abstinence is the way to go, the rest of our degraded pop culture is encouraging them to run out and have as much sex as possible.


Ha Ha, the untold amounts of money that are being spent on abstinence only education, clearly, aren’t working. Abstinence is a great idea, but there should be no problem in also instructing that there is a backup if the ‘plan’
fails.


32 posted on 07/26/2007 11:50:56 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: MEGoody
There is no reason the federal government should be subsidizing birth control for college students.

Correction. There is no reason my tax money should be subsidizing birth control for unmarried college students.

33 posted on 07/26/2007 12:17:35 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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Ha Ha, the untold amounts of money that are being spent on abstinence only education, clearly, aren’t working.

Can you tell us how much is an “untold amount” of money?

Where has abstinence only education been tried and failed?

Please provide specific information and sources. Oh, and no “everybody knows” cop-out.

34 posted on 07/26/2007 12:24:42 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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That’s not what I care about so much as that I feel zero obligation to have my tax dollars subsidize some DKE’s consequence-free Natty-light-fueled post-toga contemplation of the sweet mysteries of life, when they could be applied instead toward introducing some terrorist to his seventy-two appointed hotties.

Should be printed out and handed out to every entering college freshman.


35 posted on 07/26/2007 1:14:00 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: JoeFromSidney
There is no reason my tax money should be subsidizing birth control for unmarried college students.

We shouldn't do it for married students either.

36 posted on 07/26/2007 1:49:41 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Abathar
“Might as well face it, we have to pay for these idiots one way or another and a few boxes of condoms is far cheaper than even a single month of HIV drugs.”

Call me cold hearted but let those with HIV, which is primarily the “gay” community fund their own treatment. Let them max out on their insurance and have liberals through charity fund the rest.

It’s flat out wrong that taxpayers should fund this crap.

37 posted on 07/26/2007 2:41:54 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Pyro7480

“I’m surprised no one on this thread so far hasn’t voiced outrage at the colleges yet for profiting in this little endeavor. They already receive enough money as it is.”

GOOD POINT!

Missed that.


38 posted on 07/26/2007 2:42:49 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: MrB
“OH, no, no, no, no——

the quintessence of modern liberalism is that

they play, you pay.”

;)

Just not being “played” or want to “play”.

Prefer to be responsible and accountable for my own behavior. Guess I’m not a good little liberal ... :)

39 posted on 07/26/2007 2:44:47 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Pyro7480
We lead adolescents right up to the point of intercourse having taught them nothing more than how to "protect" themselves with a thin layer of rubber and some hormone pills – anything more would be too judgemental, and we loudly excuse our shameless counsel by asserting that they'd just do it anyway. By even cursory reflection we must realize that we are doing nothing at all to prepare their minds for this experience – though hardly anyone would suggest that the psyche of an adolescent can easily cope with the vulnerabilities and misjudgements of an early sexual relationship. We are also abdicating our responsibility to take seriously their moral development, and substituting a misleading practicality in its stead. It is considered an act of miraculous forbearance (or an indication of social incompetence) if our children wait until college before having their first sexual encounter. -Udolpho.com

40 posted on 07/26/2007 3:01:53 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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