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New revelations!: The Case Against the Haditha Defendants is Coming Unglued
Defend Our Marines ^ | July 25, 2007 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 07/25/2007 6:09:15 PM PDT by RedRover

The prosecution’s criminal case against LCpl Stephen Tatum and six other Marines in various stages of judicial process took another nose dive today. Charges that Chessani and his officers failed to adequately investigate or report the circumstances of the ambush at Haditha to higher headquarters were blasted apart by confirmation that a U.S. Air Force RQ-1 Predator was on station above Haditha for more than five hours on November 19, 2005.

Both Chessani and higher headquarters at least at both regiment and division level were watching it do its thing on big screens, an officer revealed. The Predator’s amazing capabilities provide opportunity for anyone in the National Command Authority to watch the fight in real time if they wanted to.

“We had Scan Eagle from about 0830 until 1700. Predator joined in from about 1030-1400 or so. Scan Eagle was used to maintain continuous PID [Positive Identification] on human targets as they fled from neighborhood to neighborhood. We used Predator's IR [Infra Red] camera to identify them within the palm grove (hotspots) where they were attempting to hide and to get the bombs on target. Both were used to guide helos and fixed wing air support on to the targets,” the officer explained.

At least one type of sophisticated UAV was over the battlefield all morning. In addition to 3/1’s organic Dragon Eye and ScanEagle following bands of insurgents move from hiding place to hiding place, theater commanders in Baghdad diverted an orbiting RQ-1 Predator medium altitude, high endurance UAV to watch as well. The super-secret aircraft is launched from Balad Air Base in Iraq and controlled by remote operators at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, the Air Force says. The Predator is operated by the Air Force for the Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, and other highly classified intelligence authorities. It allows senior commanders at the Pentagon to see what is happening in real time as well as field commanders in Iraq.

An officer who was there said so many people were watching the fight go down that a faraway Public Affairs Officer wrote 3/1 to suggest it was time to “maximize the coalition coverage of this, pointing out to the locals that insurgents don't care about their children."

Chessani is charged with violating his orders for failing to inform higher headquarters of the situation at Haditha. On November 19 every Marine Corps senior headquarters in Iraq and the United States could watch events in Haditha go down in real time and living color thanks to Predator.

In the words of one expert, “They can run but they can’t hide [from Predator].”

Another blow fell when a spokesman for United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement said that if Naval Criminal Investigative Service special agents threatened Venezuelan native LCpl Humberto Mendoza with deportation if he didn’t cooperate they were at odds with current US law. Jack Zimmermann, the Texas attorney representing Lance Cpl. Stephen Tatum suggested NCIS used the ploy to gain Mendoza’s testimony during his examination of the 23-year-old Marine.

A spokesman for ICE in Washington, D.C. said that NCIS could only make such a threat if Mendoza was already convicted of a serious crime. Current immigration law mandates violators must be convicted of a crime providing for “at least one year in jail or more” before it will initiate deportation proceedings, according to Pat Reilly, the Public Affairs Officer for ICE. She noted two exceptions to the law;

1.) If Mendoza lied about his citizenship status and fraudulently enlisted in the Marine Corps;

2.) If Mendoza had already been convicted of two or more crimes.

A spokesman for the Camp Pendleton Media Center said Mendoza’s citizenship status was a question for the Public Affairs Officer for the 1st Marine Division. As of this report the 1st MarDiv PAO has not returned phone calls. Presumably, however, given Mendoza’s unfettered testimony earlier this week he remains in good standing in the Marine Corps. Otherwise the prosecution would have to reveal his tarnished status to the defense.

On December 18, 2005, three days before three Marines from his squad were charged with murder Mendoza was granted immunity from prosecution in return for his cooperation. Despite previous testimony to the contrary Mendoza went from being part of a combat stack of Marines attacking a hostile objective to a lone Marine apparently wandering around in a smoke-filled house grenades had just been thrown into, he testified.

In his post-immunity version of events, Mendoza didn’t shoot anyone except a couple of fellows who must have deserved it. When he discovered innocent civilians huddled in a room behind a closed door he backed away, shutting the door behind him. Despite the early morning gloom stipulated by both sides, he could see the darkened, smoke-filled chamber was full of terrified women and children. Tatum did all the killing, he said.

Zimmermann subsequently suggested during his examination of Mendoza that the NCIS told Mendoza his citizenship was at stake if he didn’t cooperate. If they did it was a hollow threat. It would particularly be true if the NCIS special agents knew Mendoza was neither convicted of a crime or in violation of any citizenship statutes, one Missouri county prosecutor said. In most jurisdictions the court would call that type of behavior coercion, she said.

At Haditha, Mendoza was fighting alongside Tatum, Sharratt, Sgt. Francis Wolf, the late Miguel “T.J.” Terrazas, and Joe Haman, all who paid so dearly at Fallujah the year before. Marines who know the fighting caliber of these fighting Marines find it simply incredulous that a rookie Marine rifleman who had just shot two men in a firefight would even be capable to shutting down the way Mendoza claims he was able to.

Someday the truth will be available for everybody to see for themselves. The continuous video should be 8-10 hours, and includes the entire fight, one Marine said.

“[It]… finishes with the insurgent holding a child in order to avoid getting bombed again,” he added, “before we swarmed in to capture him.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: defendourmarines; haditha; iraq; marines
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To: SittinYonder

Haditha Marines ping


61 posted on 07/25/2007 8:33:58 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: Girlene

Read testified for the defense. Nat talked to him but there wasn’t time to get the whole scoop. Maybe there’ll be some coverage tomorrow. With an Haditha Article 32 and two Hamdania court martials all happening at the same time, the press corps is stretched pretty thin.


62 posted on 07/25/2007 8:36:11 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: Gene Eric

You’re welcome, Gene! We have to keep after this because if not us, then who?


63 posted on 07/25/2007 8:37:40 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: brityank
Mr. Bush's DOJ is constitutionally wrong:
You can say that again.
64 posted on 07/25/2007 8:39:23 PM PDT by lewislynn ( The Fairtax...It's a book, not a bible.)
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To: RedRover; brityank

OK, so I can put the roll of tinfoil away—FOR NOW.

Thanks for clarifying. It was bugging me.


65 posted on 07/25/2007 8:48:10 PM PDT by Shelayne (I will continue to pray for President Bush and my country, as I am commanded to do by my Lord.)
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To: RedRover
Outstanding news, Red. It's great that Nat Helms is getting this out. Great post.

Everyday this Haditha hoax is getting better and better for our guys and worse and worse for Murtha and the NCIS. Thank goodness. I'm definitely gonna owe you a case of beer for your good work when this is over with.

66 posted on 07/25/2007 8:51:22 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: RedRover

Praise God.

Dear Lord, please totally shred the attack on these faithful patriots.


67 posted on 07/25/2007 9:03:55 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: smoothsailing

68 posted on 07/25/2007 9:08:23 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis
Back atcha!

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69 posted on 07/25/2007 9:12:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: smoothsailing
BUMP for America and Freedom for the framed Marines


70 posted on 07/25/2007 9:16:55 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis
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71 posted on 07/25/2007 9:22:24 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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72 posted on 07/25/2007 9:25:12 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis
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73 posted on 07/25/2007 9:26:41 PM PDT by smoothsailing ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
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To: freeangel
Can murtha be prosecuted for making false alllegations?

Public officials cannot be prosecuted for actions within the scope of their duties.

Unfortunately slandering members of the United States Military Forces is within the scope of duty for liberal Congressmen.

74 posted on 07/25/2007 9:35:06 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear
Article III, Section 3, Paragraph 1, of the Constitution of the United States:
"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them,
or, in adhering to their Enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
"

The "aid and comfort" prong of treason has been interpreted
by SCOTUSe as requiring proof of four elements:
1. an intent to betray the United States (which can be inferred from);
2. an overt act;
3. witnessed by two people; and
4. that provides aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States.

75 posted on 07/25/2007 9:45:07 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Diogenesis

I know, I know! I was just being a smart aleck!


76 posted on 07/25/2007 9:49:03 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: freema

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77 posted on 07/26/2007 3:21:42 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, NIECE)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; intenseracer; 2ndDivisionVet; Lurker; roaddog727; MizSterious; Tainan; ...

Haditha case continuing to fall apart ping. Don’t hold your breath waiting for mea culpas from the media and the anti-military Left, who have used this case to bolster their “we shouldn’t be in Iraq” arguments.


78 posted on 07/26/2007 3:42:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: RedRover

Thanks for the clarification. I am so used to secret info leaking out, I guess I am surprised when it doesn’t.


79 posted on 07/26/2007 3:55:24 AM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: dynachrome
The difference between this secret and others is that active duty Marines held the information. They weren't paying attention to the media and the likes of Murtha.

It wasn't until the information was being glossed over, or suppressed entirely, at the hearings that they starting speaking out.

80 posted on 07/26/2007 4:20:03 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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