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Founding Fathers Were Immigration Skeptics
Human Events ^ | July 20, 2007 | Thomas E. Woods Jr.

Posted on 07/24/2007 7:19:15 PM PDT by CathNY

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1 posted on 07/24/2007 7:19:18 PM PDT by CathNY
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To: CathNY

“...shouldn’t we at least be aware of what they thought?”

But..but...they are just a bunch of old dead guys. Why should we care what they think?

Probably should have quotation marks on the above, but I cannot remember the Liberal A-hole that stated that.


2 posted on 07/24/2007 7:27:53 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Somebody actually said that? Wow


3 posted on 07/24/2007 7:30:22 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: CathNY

The Founding Fathers also didn’t have to grapple with the problem of the huge and powerful magnet that is drawing undesirable people here by the millions. There were no government handouts back then, and private charity generally went only to those who could convince the givers that they were truly worthy of it. And we didn’t have a legal system where it was more expensive for an employer to keep you even though you’re lazy and worthless, than to fire you and face colossal legal bills to defend against unfounded claims of “discrimination”. And we didn’t have a legal system in which employers are forced to pay huge sums into a workers’ compensation scheme, to support former workers who may have been injured on the job due to their own carelessness or refusal to follow instructions, or who aren’t even injured at all but have a doctor helping them to fake it in order to share in the payout.

Back in the late 1700s and early 1800s, anybody who came here was going to have work very, very hard to survive, and refrain from committing any serious crimes unless willing to face long imprisonment in conditions that nobody outside concerned themselves with (or being shot by angry citizens, who wouldn’t face prosecution). Try to imagine what would have happened to this Liberian guy in Maryland who raped a 7 year old girl and molested an 18 month old girl, if he’d come here and done these things 200 years ago. He most likely would have been executed within weeks of his arrest, and he most certainly wouldn’t have been provided a free attorney and a psychologist to tell the court he really needed a free interpreter for some obscure dialect even though he clearly knows English just fine.

It’s not just the immigrants who are the problem. It’s the mess we’ve made of our society, with the cancer of socialism and routine travesties of justice.


4 posted on 07/24/2007 7:35:30 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: CathNY

Mass immigration was going on before there was a United States, so the views of the Founding Fathers almost had to be in agreement with the policy of letting in as many as WANTED to be here. In the 18th Century, immigration was a strenuous chore, enduring a sea voyage that could take up several weeks, which was a serious obstacle for many. Once here, the surest way to secure a position was to indenture oneself, first to get established while learning the new culture, and also to sharpen up and hone any skills brought from the former country. At the end of the indenture, as a freeman, many more opportunities beckoned, as territory to the west seemed to be opening up all the time. There was not much of going home, at least not until a sizable fortune had been accumulated.


5 posted on 07/24/2007 7:39:33 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never attribute to ignorance that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
It’s not just the immigrants who are the problem. It’s the mess we’ve made of our society, with the cancer of socialism and routine travesties of justice.

you're only hope is Ron Paul.

6 posted on 07/24/2007 7:45:51 PM PDT by JoinJuniorAchievement (“ I am a Veteran. It is our duty to vote for Ron Paul.")
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To: GovernmentShrinker

“Back in the late 1700s and early 1800s, anybody who came here was going to have work very, very hard to survive, and refrain from committing any serious crimes unless willing to face long imprisonment in conditions that nobody outside concerned themselves with (or being shot by angry citizens, who wouldn’t face prosecution). Try to imagine what would have happened to this Liberian guy in Maryland who raped a 7 year old girl and molested an 18 month old girl, if he’d come here and done these things 200 years ago. He most likely would have been executed within weeks of his arrest, and he most certainly wouldn’t have been provided a free attorney and a psychologist to tell the court he really needed a free interpreter for some obscure dialect even though he clearly knows English just fine.”

B T T T


7 posted on 07/24/2007 7:47:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: CathNY

Of course, they were. They were sane.


8 posted on 07/24/2007 7:48:53 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: CathNY

bttt


9 posted on 07/24/2007 7:51:06 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Good points. I’m sure the founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they knew what was going on now.


10 posted on 07/24/2007 7:59:45 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Major bttt


11 posted on 07/24/2007 8:01:01 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: wastedyears

Yup, but cannot remember if it was some Hollywood A-hole, or if it was a response from some student upon questioning about the founding fathers, or what, but that was the answer given. My wife and myself remember the statement.


12 posted on 07/24/2007 8:07:12 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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Good read, I was listening to Kevin James on KRLA AM 870 last night. He does alot of research on illegal immigration.

He was reading on the ‘La Raza’ site about all the govt agencies that are donating to them! Including the military.

He mentioned that the ‘Fox Corporation’ has donated to them also. That explains why O’Reilly went cold on illegal immigration after he blew up at Geraldo!

How can we fight back on this when our own govt agencies are donating our tax payer money to enable this illegal movement? James is on at 9pm pacific:

http://www.krla870.com/subpage.asp?StationId=KRLA-AM&PageNo=35

13 posted on 07/24/2007 8:16:05 PM PDT by msnpatriot
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To: TheLion
Good points. I’m sure the founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves if they knew what was going on now.

"A Republic, if you can keep it!"

14 posted on 07/24/2007 8:22:24 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: CathNY
Contrary to what most Americans may believe, in fact, the Founding Fathers were by and large skeptical of immigration. If the United States lacked people with particular skills, then the Founders had no objection to attracting them from abroad. But they were convinced that mass immigration would bring social turmoil and political confusion in its wake.

Who wants to bet the MSM has NO interest in this story. None, nada, zip.

15 posted on 07/24/2007 8:28:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (Iranian designers held a fashion show - surprise, for the 5,000th time, burqas are in...- Conan)
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To: CathNY

bttt!


16 posted on 07/24/2007 8:52:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: alloysteel

Not true at all. Congress restricted immigration in the 1790s.


17 posted on 07/24/2007 10:44:22 PM PDT by rmlew (Build a wall, attrit the illegals, end the anchor babies, Americanize Immigrants)
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To: JoinJuniorAchievement

Why is it that we cannot have a good discussion on Free Republic without someone having to mention the current bottom feeder of the Republican party?


18 posted on 07/24/2007 10:52:27 PM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid

You can choose to ignore it.


19 posted on 07/24/2007 10:55:13 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: Martins kid
Why is it that we cannot have a good discussion on Free Republic without someone having to mention the current bottom feeder of the Republican party?

I did not mention Rudy McRomney.

Ron Paul is our only hope, otherwise we get Hillary.

20 posted on 07/25/2007 6:04:29 AM PDT by JoinJuniorAchievement (“ I am a Veteran. It is our duty to vote for Ron Paul.")
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