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1 posted on 07/24/2007 7:19:18 PM PDT by CathNY
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To: CathNY

“...shouldn’t we at least be aware of what they thought?”

But..but...they are just a bunch of old dead guys. Why should we care what they think?

Probably should have quotation marks on the above, but I cannot remember the Liberal A-hole that stated that.


2 posted on 07/24/2007 7:27:53 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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The Founding Fathers also didn’t have to grapple with the problem of the huge and powerful magnet that is drawing undesirable people here by the millions. There were no government handouts back then, and private charity generally went only to those who could convince the givers that they were truly worthy of it. And we didn’t have a legal system where it was more expensive for an employer to keep you even though you’re lazy and worthless, than to fire you and face colossal legal bills to defend against unfounded claims of “discrimination”. And we didn’t have a legal system in which employers are forced to pay huge sums into a workers’ compensation scheme, to support former workers who may have been injured on the job due to their own carelessness or refusal to follow instructions, or who aren’t even injured at all but have a doctor helping them to fake it in order to share in the payout.

Back in the late 1700s and early 1800s, anybody who came here was going to have work very, very hard to survive, and refrain from committing any serious crimes unless willing to face long imprisonment in conditions that nobody outside concerned themselves with (or being shot by angry citizens, who wouldn’t face prosecution). Try to imagine what would have happened to this Liberian guy in Maryland who raped a 7 year old girl and molested an 18 month old girl, if he’d come here and done these things 200 years ago. He most likely would have been executed within weeks of his arrest, and he most certainly wouldn’t have been provided a free attorney and a psychologist to tell the court he really needed a free interpreter for some obscure dialect even though he clearly knows English just fine.

It’s not just the immigrants who are the problem. It’s the mess we’ve made of our society, with the cancer of socialism and routine travesties of justice.


4 posted on 07/24/2007 7:35:30 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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Mass immigration was going on before there was a United States, so the views of the Founding Fathers almost had to be in agreement with the policy of letting in as many as WANTED to be here. In the 18th Century, immigration was a strenuous chore, enduring a sea voyage that could take up several weeks, which was a serious obstacle for many. Once here, the surest way to secure a position was to indenture oneself, first to get established while learning the new culture, and also to sharpen up and hone any skills brought from the former country. At the end of the indenture, as a freeman, many more opportunities beckoned, as territory to the west seemed to be opening up all the time. There was not much of going home, at least not until a sizable fortune had been accumulated.


5 posted on 07/24/2007 7:39:33 PM PDT by alloysteel (Never attribute to ignorance that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: CathNY

Of course, they were. They were sane.


8 posted on 07/24/2007 7:48:53 PM PDT by freekitty
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bttt


9 posted on 07/24/2007 7:51:06 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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Contrary to what most Americans may believe, in fact, the Founding Fathers were by and large skeptical of immigration. If the United States lacked people with particular skills, then the Founders had no objection to attracting them from abroad. But they were convinced that mass immigration would bring social turmoil and political confusion in its wake.

Who wants to bet the MSM has NO interest in this story. None, nada, zip.

15 posted on 07/24/2007 8:28:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (Iranian designers held a fashion show - surprise, for the 5,000th time, burqas are in...- Conan)
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To: CathNY

bttt!


16 posted on 07/24/2007 8:52:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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What was likely to happen, according to Jefferson, was that immigrants would come to America from countries that would have given them no experience living in a free society. They would bring with them the ideas and principles of the governments they left behind — ideas and principles that were often at odds with American liberty.

BUMP BUMP BUMP


23 posted on 07/25/2007 9:16:33 AM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq -- via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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Outstanding, wins best UN-PC AWARD


27 posted on 07/25/2007 7:57:59 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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