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To: beaversmom
I don't support such harshness.

However, we need to ask ourselves why we have such a coarse culture and why children behave like this, and why parents think it's no big deal.

Most of all, we need to ask ourselves "How do we turn this around, and raise children who will treat people with respect?"

One way to do so is, in fact, to impose draconian sentences so that the word goes out that misbehavior is subject to excessive punishment. That might change things. But if we don't want to do that, it begs the question: "What ought we to do?"

21 posted on 07/23/2007 11:56:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Progressives like to keep doing the things that didn't work in the past.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Community service would be fair, but 10 years is silly.

The students need to know that kind of behavior is not appropriate nor gentlemanly

29 posted on 07/23/2007 12:00:35 PM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: ClearCase_guy
"However, we need to ask ourselves why we have such a coarse culture and why children behave like this, and why parents think it's no big deal."

Oh Puhhhlease. Do you need to have gravity explained to you, or how the sun will come up every morning, or why 13 year old boys will be prone to playing grab-ass with 13 year old girls???? Gee, maybe draconian laws will stop the ocean tides as well.

32 posted on 07/23/2007 12:01:08 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: ClearCase_guy

ClearCase_guy wrote: “However, we need to ask ourselves why we have such a coarse culture and why children behave like this, and why parents think it’s no big deal.”

Um, because there’s nothing coarse about kids playing grab ass. It’s a natural stage in human development—that’s also why it’s no big deal.

The reactions of the adults involved are what’s making this entire issue more traumatic. They are the one making this a big deal when it should have been resolved quickly by the teachers.

These boys need proper adult supervision, not jail sentences. What happened to an adult pulling them aside and telling them to, “Cut it out!” What moron got a police officer involved?

The school staff who were involved should be fired, because they are clearly incompetent. GEESH!


39 posted on 07/23/2007 12:04:37 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: ClearCase_guy

Nobody has said that the kids shouldn’t be punished. They should be punished in a way to teach them that you can’t go around popping girls behinds.
Every generation from the dawn of mankind has done this horseplay so its not a new thing that is the sign of the times.
Kids mess up and do things they aren’t supposed to. They should be punished so that they will know that is unacceptable behavior. Not labled for the rest of their lives.
I can’t imagine these boys in 30 years. Being accountants, teachers, engineers, maybe even preachers with families of their own, having to register as a sex offender because they popped a girl on the butt in the schoolyard at age 13.


41 posted on 07/23/2007 12:06:19 PM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
One way to do so is, in fact, to impose draconian sentences so that the word goes out that misbehavior is subject to excessive punishment. That might change things. But if we don't want to do that, it begs the question: "What ought we to do?"

One thing to note. These are 13 year old children. The fact that the principal even had to involve the police shows the lack of maturity on his part. Many worse things happened when I was growing up and I never saw the police in any school my entire K-12 education.

The fact that the police were even involved shows that principal has the maturity level of a 5 year old or lower. Totally pathetic!
45 posted on 07/23/2007 12:07:04 PM PDT by microgood
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To: ClearCase_guy
“However, we need to ask ourselves why we have such a coarse culture and why children behave like this, and why parents think it’s no big deal.”

Because it isn’t. Our culture is the most refined in history. Women have rights unknown to past cultures, and to many present ones.

Kids have been horsing around like this since before recorded history. Somehow they survived. I think these kids will too.

47 posted on 07/23/2007 12:07:52 PM PDT by monday
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To: ClearCase_guy
However, we need to ask ourselves why we have such a coarse culture and why children behave like this, and why parents think it's no big deal.

Kids do stupid immature things. That's a simple fact of life. There's nothing going on here that a good talking to and a butt whoopin' wouldn't fix in less than 5 minutes.
48 posted on 07/23/2007 12:08:07 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: ClearCase_guy
However, we need to ask ourselves why we have such a coarse culture and why children behave like this, and why parents think it's no big deal.

Did your daddy forget to tell you about the birds and the bees?

88 posted on 07/23/2007 12:29:55 PM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (Can I cast the second stone?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“However, we need to ask ourselves why we have such a coarse culture and why children behave like this, and why parents think it’s no big deal.”

Why children behave like this? Because they’re children!

If you think that kids now are doing stupid things because of modern culture, then you must have been in a coma through childhood.


161 posted on 07/23/2007 1:31:12 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Now with added lemony freshness!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
...One way to do so is, in fact, to impose draconian sentences...

What we need around here is some sort of draconian sentence for posting such nauseating drivel. Let me guess, the Duke Lacrosse boys had it coming too.

162 posted on 07/23/2007 1:31:55 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: ClearCase_guy

Harshness? What world did you grow up in? Sheeesh!
Grab ass was the rule of the day, the girls love it! It was a part of a normal way of life, a ritual of growing up.

” However, we need to ask ourselves why we have such a coarse culture and why children behave like this, and why parents think it’s no big deal.

Most of all, we need to ask ourselves “How do we turn this around, and raise children who will treat people with respect?”

One way to do so is, in fact, to impose draconian sentences so that the word goes out that misbehavior is subject to excessive punishment. That might change things. But if we don’t want to do that, it begs the question: “What ought we to do?”


231 posted on 07/23/2007 3:35:27 PM PDT by OregonRancher
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To: ClearCase_guy
Glad to her you don't support such harshness. I hear that Iran has ‘draconian’ ways of dealing with 9 year old boys who steal a loaf of bread in the open market. They take him to public square and run his right arm over with a 2 ton pickup. He is crippled for life, leaving him with only the use of his left hand, which is tabbo and used for bodily cleaning. That’ll do the job, ruining a child’s life as surely as 10 years in jail and no future after that. Draconian enough for you?
370 posted on 08/12/2007 10:17:01 AM PDT by ArmyTeach (Vincit qui se vincit)
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