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Ron Paul for President -- Of the 'Wackos'?
Editor & Publisher ^ | July 20, 2007

Posted on 07/22/2007 3:22:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A feature piece in this coming Sunday's New York Times Magazine on Republican candidate for president, Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, portrays his followers as including a wild mix of "wackos" on both ends of the political spectrum. Paul, a libertarian, has been gaining media and public attention of late.

The cover line reads: "A Genuine Radical for President." The headline inside: "The Antiwar, Anti-Abortion, Anti-Drug-Enforcement-Administration, Anti-medicare Candidacy of Dr. Ron Paul."

The article closes with the author, Christopher Caldwell, attending a Ron Paul Meetup in Pasadena. The co-host, Connie Ruffley of United Republicans of California, admits she once was a member of the radical right John Birch Society and when she asks for a show of hands "quite a few" attendees reveal that they were or are members, too. She refers to Sen. Dianne Feinstein as "Fine-Swine" and attacks Israel, pleasing some while others "walked out."

Caldwell notes that the head of the Pasadena Meetup Group, Bill Dumas, sent a desperate letter to Paul headquarters: "We're in a difficult position of working on a campaign that draws supporters from laterally opposing points of view, and we have the added bonus of attracting every wacko fringe group in the country....We absolutely must focus on Ron's message only and put aside all other agendas, which anyone can save for the next 'Star Trek' convention or whatever."

Asked about the John Birch Society Society by the author, Paul responds, "Is that BAD? I have a lot of friends in the John Birch Society. They're generally well-educated and they understand the Constitution. I don't know how many positions they would have that I don't agree with."

The writer concludes that the "antigovernment activists of the right and the antiwar activists of the left" may have "irreconciable" differences. But "their numbers -- and anger -- are of considerable magnitude. Ron Paul will not be the next president of the United States. But his candidacy gives us a good hint about the country the next president is going to have to knit back together."

Among many other things, we learn from the article that Paul had never heard of "The Daily Show" until he was a guest and referred to the magazine GQ as "GTU." It also notes that he was the only congress member to vote against the Financial Antiterrorism Act and a medal to honor Rosa Parks, among many others tallies, based on principle, not politics. He also is praised by liberal Rep. Barney Frnak as "one of the easiest" members to work with because "he bases his positions on the merits of issues."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Texas; War on Terror
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Who would've thunk it?
1 posted on 07/22/2007 3:22:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 07/22/2007 3:27:58 PM PDT by scan58 (Diversity results in a collection of unconnected individuals.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did all those keywords come from you?


3 posted on 07/22/2007 3:37:27 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
antigovernment; antisemitism; antiwar; debates; elections; fringegroups; johnbirchsociety; leftmeetsright; libertarians; moonbats; patbuchanangop; paulistinians; ronpaul; rupaul; wackos; wot;

Did you do that?

4 posted on 07/22/2007 3:38:07 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

When the NYT starts doing hit pieces, Paul must be doing something right...LOL


5 posted on 07/22/2007 3:43:25 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35
I believe Ron Paul is doing a lot of things right.
6 posted on 07/22/2007 3:45:26 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

It is my firm opinion that Dr. Paul is wrong about Iraq, but spot on correct concerning Domestic Issues.

And what is so terrible about the John Birch Society?


7 posted on 07/22/2007 3:59:05 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35
There is nothing wrong with the John Birch Society. The are a patriotic organization that promotes smaller Constitutional government and more individual freedom

The problem is with some people here on FR. Like the guy who started this thread and, I suspect, put all those derogatory keywords in it.

8 posted on 07/22/2007 4:01:50 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: padre35
Most of the people I see on FR also are for smaller Constitutional government and more individual freedom. But lately I see a lot socialists posting in this forum. Check out the thread on Minimum Wage here
9 posted on 07/22/2007 4:06:35 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

I’ve met many a JBS memeber, they are fine people as far as I can tell anyway, how are you gonna make a decision about anyone in 20 minutes?

And the keywords are not a surprise really, many people mistake “Stand on Principles” for “Anti war nut”.

Ron Paul voted in favor of the War in Afghanistan, and against the Iraq War, he stated his reasons why, and they had nothing to do with the Kos/Code Pink crowd.

He wanted a “declared” War, as the Constitution requires.


10 posted on 07/22/2007 4:06:43 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35

My FRiend, you get it. I agree.


11 posted on 07/22/2007 4:08:30 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

George W Bush, President — Of Republican Socialists?


12 posted on 07/22/2007 4:54:13 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

I’ve had to chase 2ndDivisionVet around the forum to try to get him to answer my question. No luck so far.


13 posted on 07/22/2007 4:57:57 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Everyone, please visit the earlier thread. So we can break 600 posts, if nothing else! LOL.

NYT: Ron Paul for President... of the 'Wackos'? [Birchers, Israel-Haters, etc.]

14 posted on 07/22/2007 5:01:15 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: padre35
The John Birch Society had many things right but often had very strong antisemitic undertones and a bit of a racist vibe too. General Walker and Protocols of Zion type stuff.

They undermined a lot of the good they did in the fight against the reds with that sort of BS. And there was a time before conservatives tended to be as staunch supporters of Israel as they generally are today....

15 posted on 07/22/2007 6:57:59 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Mad_as_heck

Yeah there is a Buchanon wing of anti Israel views, I canunderstand it, but I dsagree with it.

“Why piss off 20 countries to support 1 country, with our tax money to boot”?

They don’t stop to realize that no one in the region has better intelligence then the Israelis or that the IDF tests some of our new weapons systems for us.

so it is a two way street.


16 posted on 07/22/2007 7:14:19 PM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35

I agree. Every cent we send to Israel is well spent. They are the single greatest asset we have in this struggle.


17 posted on 07/22/2007 7:18:24 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: scan59

Here’s another ping.
Same article as before.


18 posted on 07/22/2007 7:35:08 PM PDT by scan58 (Diversity results in a collection of unconnected individuals.)
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To: Mad_as_heck; padre35
The John Birch Society had many things right but often had very strong antisemitic undertones and a bit of a racist vibe too. General Walker and Protocols of Zion type stuff.

I think Glenn on the other thread had it right when he said that they were never antisemitic as an organization but had to keep expelling some antisemites that tried to set up shop there.

Of course, the controversy tarred the entire organization with the brush of antisemitism. Certainly, on the other thread we had info on some of the ex-JBSers and the organizations they formed after they were expelled by the JBS people.

The same thing has happened at FR. JimRob had to expel antisemites. Then they end up at one of those small TOS sites where they can be as antisemitic as they want.
19 posted on 07/22/2007 8:48:22 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: George W. Bush

Your analysis of the John Birch Society is pretty much spot on.


20 posted on 07/23/2007 12:23:12 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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