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State (Ohio) says it was wrong ask Muslim women to remove head scarves
Columbus (Oh) Dispatch ^ | 7/14/07 | AP News Story

Posted on 07/14/2007 1:46:14 PM PDT by MplsSteve

Two Muslim women had the right to continue wearing their head scarves when sitting for a driver's license photo, the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles said.

Clerks at separate bureau offices in southwest Ohio were wrong to insist that the women remove the scarves, also known as hijabs, which are expressions of faith and modesty, said Tom Hunter, spokesman for the Department of Public Safety, which oversees the motor vehicles bureau.

The bureau's offices in Loveland and Mason retook the photos for free.

“It was just a misunderstanding on the part of BMV employees as to what the policy was,” Hunter said. “We want to be respectful to all people and all cultures.”

No one was disciplined, Hunter said, but an e-mail was sent to the state's 216 registrar offices in May reminding employees that head coverings, such as hijabs, are allowed.

People sitting for driver's license photographs can't wear head coverings, according to Ohio policy. But there are exceptions for wigs or hairpieces that a person customarily wears, along with headwear for religious reasons and medical treatments. However, nothing can cover a person's face.

(Excerpt) Read more at dispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: brainwashing; cair; driverslicense; hijab; id; indoctrination; islam; islamiclaw; islaminamerica; license; mosqueandstate; muslims; pc; photoid; politicalcorectness
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Interesting.

I'm trying to remain open-minded about this - but can't.

At the bottom of the article, a spokeswoman for CAIR is quoted as saying "Asking a Muslim woman to remove her head scarf is akin to asking her to remove her shirt..."

Hardly. That's got to be one of the most f'd up analogies I've ever read.

I'm no expert on Islam but have read a few articles where it's been stated that the hijab is not required attire for Muslim women.

If that's the case, it shouldn't matter if they are asked to remove it prior to taking a photo for an official ID.

Comments or opinions - anyone?

1 posted on 07/14/2007 1:46:16 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

So what do they do when obtaining any kind of photo ID? Keep the linen on?


2 posted on 07/14/2007 1:47:45 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: MplsSteve

WIMPS,,


3 posted on 07/14/2007 1:48:59 PM PDT by silentreignofheroes (When the Last Two Prophets are taken, there will be no Tommorrow!)
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To: MplsSteve
Then it is equally OK for a business to reject such a photo-ID for such purposes as check cashing, etc.

If your photo-ID looks like a stack of laundry with a pair of eyes peering out of it, don't count on any sane person accepting it.

4 posted on 07/14/2007 1:51:26 PM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: MplsSteve

I think that the head scarf was started by the Muslim Brotherhood during the thirties, as a kind of in your face way to set radical Muslims apart from the general population.


5 posted on 07/14/2007 1:51:38 PM PDT by Eva (I)
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To: MplsSteve

I also am no expert on the Religion of People-in-Pieces, but I read the same thing you did. And I think I read it from a self-proclaimed muzzie author. That the hijab is local practice and not required by the Koran.


6 posted on 07/14/2007 1:54:44 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: MplsSteve
“I’m no expert on Islam but have read a few articles where it’s been stated that the hijab is not required attire for Muslim women.”

The jijab has a very long religious history — it goes all the way back to the 1970’s.

The hijab has almost as much authentic religious, as opposed to political, history as Kwanzaa.

7 posted on 07/14/2007 1:55:12 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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My understanding is that their faces were not obscured if thats the case I dont think it should be required that they remove a hat


8 posted on 07/14/2007 1:55:15 PM PDT by itches (hey George now would be a good time to win the war)
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To: MplsSteve
Hunter said. “We want to be respectful to all people and all cultures.”

Famous last words . . .

9 posted on 07/14/2007 1:58:30 PM PDT by blues_guitarist ( . . . As in the days of Noah!)
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To: MplsSteve
I see a sharp increase in muslim women applying for driver licence photos in Ohio.
And since discrimination based on sex is no longer Constitutional, I see a lot of guys with their heads wrapped in Italian tablecoths also applying...

Just saying.

10 posted on 07/14/2007 2:00:01 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: MplsSteve

and in other news,
the state declared it was wrong to initially deny them the right to install sharia for the state.
Once the recognition had been made, the govenor sent out his most humble apologies to CAIR and sharia was installed for all. This action made Ohio the first muslim state.

And amongst the liberal fools, there was great joy for cherishing multiculturalism. It had proven the richness in diversity...particularly for the synagogues..who found a new freedom. The freedom to move after being burned out.


11 posted on 07/14/2007 2:00:20 PM PDT by himno hero
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Hair color has always been a part of a person's ID description.

I wonder how they feel about dark glasses? Seems to be that most Saudi guys wear dark glasses night and day. Must be part of the ugly modesty thing too.

Just saying.

12 posted on 07/14/2007 2:02:19 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: MplsSteve; Borax Queen; Czar

And, they can be identified this way, how???????????


13 posted on 07/14/2007 2:04:16 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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Juror faces jail for listening to MP3 player under hijab

A Muslim juror faces a possible prison sentence after being discovered listening to an MP3 player under her hijab headscarf during a high-profile murder trial.

The judge - who previously suspected that he had heard "tinny music" in the background, but dismissed it as his imagination - called the woman into court on her own, and said: “You are going to be discharged from this jury. You will play no further role.”

The arrest of the juror - which is considered so rare as to be almost unheard of - took place last Wednesday, although it could not be reported until today when the judge lifted a news blackout on the case.

When caught listening to music she was meant to be hearing vital evidence from Alan Wicks, a former businessman on trial for brutally bludgeoning his disabled wife to death after 50 years of marriage. He was later found guilty.

During the trial, members of the jury sitting on the case had become increasingly concerned about the behaviour of the woman, who it emerged had repeatedly tried to avoid legal service.

The ... left lawyers wondering whether she was “in a world of her own”. Some of those in court became convinced she was doodling instead of reading important documentary exhibits distributed to her and fellow jurors.

Then, last Wednesday, it emerged that she had been listening to her MP3 player, and was discharged and arrested.

14 posted on 07/14/2007 2:10:08 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Publius6961
Hair color has always been a part of a person's ID description.

Given how often some women change their hair color, it may not be that useful. LOL

15 posted on 07/14/2007 2:18:07 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: wastedyears

Don’t they cover their faces too with these scarves?


16 posted on 07/14/2007 2:23:36 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: MplsSteve

This Tom Hunter must be from Cleveland (”the mistake by the lake”). Lots of A-rabs and other moose limbs up that a way.


17 posted on 07/14/2007 2:24:30 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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I’d prefer they cover their faces with plastic bags.

Oops...


18 posted on 07/14/2007 2:25:56 PM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: MplsSteve

couple of years ago the same issue came up in florida.

i think the woman was required to remove her scarf.

ohio needs to get real about terrorism.


19 posted on 07/14/2007 2:28:24 PM PDT by ken21 ( b 4 fred.)
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CNN.com -

DRIVER'S ID RULES IN MUSLIM NATIONS

Saudi Arabia: Women aren't allowed to drive

Iran: Women wear a traditional chador, which does not cover the face.

Egypt: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures

United Arab Emirates: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures

Oman: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures

Kuwait: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures

Qatar: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures

Bahrain: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures

Jordan: Women can drive if their faces are covered but do not cover their face in I.D. pictures

(Note: Although women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, they can obtain photo I.D.s. They cannot cover their face in the photo.)

20 posted on 07/14/2007 2:37:01 PM PDT by HAL9000
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