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Senate Democrats Sneak "Hate Crimes" Bill into Crucial Defense Bill
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| July 13, 2007
Posted on 07/13/2007 9:54:23 PM PDT by monomaniac
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To: blackbart.223
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posted on
07/13/2007 11:11:05 PM PDT
by
California Patriot
("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
To: rlmorel
more graphics? lilliputians?
42
posted on
07/13/2007 11:12:12 PM PDT
by
MountainFlower
(There but by the grace of God go I.)
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
You must have been asleep, or on drugs, all the way back in late June. We defeated the Bush-Kennedy amnesty — with “faxes, e-mails and phone calls.” Although phone calls were the most important.
43
posted on
07/13/2007 11:12:51 PM PDT
by
California Patriot
("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
To: MountainFlower; jazusamo; RedRover; freema; usmcobra; kristinn; Lancey Howard; kellynla; ...
If I'm reading this right, it's sickening. No way can this stand. President Bush has got to read the riot act on this. DAMN!!!!
44
posted on
07/13/2007 11:13:09 PM PDT
by
smoothsailing
("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction"--President Ronald Reagan)
To: smoothsailing
so what say we all phone him and tell him that?! I wonder what time the phones shut off up there at the switchboard!!
45
posted on
07/13/2007 11:16:34 PM PDT
by
MountainFlower
(There but by the grace of God go I.)
To: California Patriot
Granted that our efforts using the tactics you note were crucial—yet they were not conclusive.
We need additional flanking attacks, would you not agree?
Let’s think outside the box, outside the Beltway and develop a winning Citizens’ strategy...
46
posted on
07/13/2007 11:18:44 PM PDT
by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
I’m all for thinking outside the box.
The bloggers and talk radio were crucial, even apart from the calls they generated. The senators knew, because of them, that MANY Americans were aware of what the bill would do. Cutting off $$ to the national GOP was useful. And the booing of Grahamnesty (Chambliss or Isakson also?) was useful.
47
posted on
07/13/2007 11:21:45 PM PDT
by
California Patriot
("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
To: monomaniac
“This is an underhanded ploy by liberals in the Senate”
“This is an underhanded ploy by ‘Democrats’ in the Senate”
No suprize, and it’s July, and we’re still in Iraq, the new Somolia Black Hawk Down mission for Democrats, because everything they are trying to pass, to sandbag our Military Forces, still leaves Troops in Iraq.
48
posted on
07/13/2007 11:24:04 PM PDT
by
Son House
( Democrats are Hostile to Tax Payers.)
To: TheZMan
I’d also be out fighting with the armed revolt. In addition I am pre-emptively giving my support to a military coup de tat. The military is tasked with protecting the constitution and republic... imo that includes against domestic enemies.
49
posted on
07/13/2007 11:27:14 PM PDT
by
ran20
To: monomaniac
This is the same kind of legislation that the Oregon State legislators passed here about 3 months ago. It is VERY scary. Their next move here is to introduce a reeducation curriculum in the skrools and and teach that homosexuallity is NOT an alternative lifestyle and that it IS moral. Gordon must think that since this crap was passed in his state that he does'nt have to worry about reelection. WRONG!!!!! This crap was not put to a vote by the voters (They also threw in “domestic partnerships) and we (conservatives) are mad as hornets. I am going to work like mad to give Gordon the boot. What a RINO!!!!
50
posted on
07/13/2007 11:28:48 PM PDT
by
Anti-Hillary
(Anyone but Hitlery)
To: monomaniac
I’m suprised that they didn’t stick an assault weapons ban to one of the bills (Oh yea, they are doing that as well.) Also expect amnesty to be attached to one of these as well.
To: MountainFlower
Yep, that’s exactly what he needs to do. What he doesn’t need to do is sign it, or veto it then sit back and allow the democrats to frame the debate as him abandoning the troops.
52
posted on
07/13/2007 11:47:09 PM PDT
by
kenth
(I got tired of my last tagline...)
To: chaos_5
They did the same thing with the internet gambling ban.
Frist and Kyle snuck it into a troop funding bill in the middle of the night to avoid debate. We have to stop these Washington idiots from such dishonest political maneuvers.
53
posted on
07/13/2007 11:50:18 PM PDT
by
KDD
To: MountainFlower
The Democrats around the country stood with us against the AMNESTY Bill...
Most of the same people are Pinko Wackos against the war in Iraq and could care less about the troops but would be for the so called “Hate Crimes” Amendment...
No help there......
Call any Senator or Congressman in Washington DC...
Toll FRee (888) 534-6226 (866) 220-0044
To: monomaniac
“...”I would suspect that [Bush] would send this back to the Senate and say ‘quit playing games with the lives of our troops’ and have them send a clean bill to his desk to get these troops taken care of.” ...”
I seriously doubt he will do that.
He can’t wait to sign it.
To: monomaniac
And the minimun wage bill that the dems wanted got passed how? was it not attached to a defense spending bill?
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posted on
07/14/2007 2:31:10 AM PDT
by
kjhm
To: ran20
I understand that you are probably writing rhetorically here out of emotion.
To address your rhetorical point, I do not support this.
However, it does touch on a constitutional question that has been sticking in my craw for a bit now.
The Democrats in Congress have been acting in a manner that is arguably beyond their constitutional scope.
As such, if this argument is accepted, they are violating their constitutional oath of office.
Is there a mechanism where the people can say: "This official has knowingly and with intent violated his oath of office. As such, we are petitioning for a panel of review, and if found guilty for his ouster and for an immediate replacement election in his state/district."?
Members of the military also take a similar constitutional oath of service.
As such, would it be proper for the people to make this request of the military when the executive branch is effectively crippled by these same unconstitutional actions of the legislative?
I would support a reasoned argument to this approach if it were found constitutional.
57
posted on
07/14/2007 3:35:47 AM PDT
by
ct_libertarian
(Wanted: Conservative Mongooses for Communist Copperheads)
To: monomaniac
Despite all of the negative things that are presently going on with the Democratically controlled Congress, it’s pathetic that the Democratic Party may end up with even more political control of the government at every level starting in January ‘09!
To: monomaniac
President Bush must go into “bill clinton” mode. He must turn the Nation against the dims by screaming at every microphone within sight... that the dims pander to the left and minorities and endanger the lives of those fighting to defend all of us by attaching legislation that would destroy our judicial system and destroy our Constitution.
rats are the enemy of America as surely as binny or zawahiri! It WILL WORK because this tactic HAS WORKED!
LLS
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posted on
07/14/2007 4:25:48 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
To: TheZMan
You are not alone... I know of not one single person that is happy with ANYTHING the dims say or do... not even the handful of dims that I know.
When “they” ask, “what happened to OUR (the dim) Party”? I answer, “You are just now noticing”?
LLS
60
posted on
07/14/2007 4:29:14 AM PDT
by
LibLieSlayer
(Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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