[randog]

Cornucopia explains that lack of water for drinking and for growing crops may have led them away. Not enough growth of trees failed to keep the Anasazi warm with firewood.

"The reason we're asking questions is because we're worried about global warming and what it might do to the Southwest," Overpeck says. "And it might be like when these guys left."

Yes, let's evacuate Arizona and New Mexico before they run out of firewood.

[blam]

GGG Ping.

And then, the Japanese came:

The Zuni Enigma

Nancy Yaw Davis

Did a group of thirteenth-century Japanese journey to the American Southwest, there to merge with the people, language, and religion of the Zuni tribe?

For many years, anthropologists have understood the Zuni in the American Southwest to occupy a special place in Native American culture and ethnography. Their language, religion, and blood type are startlingly different from all other tribes. Most puzzling, the Zuni appear to have much in common with the people of Japan.

In a book with groundbreaking implications, Dr. Nancy Yaw Davis examines the evidence underscoring the Zuni enigma, and suggests the circumstances that may have led Japanese on a religious quest-searching for the legendary "middle world" of Buddhism-across the Pacific and to the American Southwest more than seven hundred years ago.

Nancy Yaw Davis holds an M.A. from the University of Chicago and a Ph.D. in anthropology from the University of Washington. Author of numerous articles, she has long researched the history and cultures of the native peoples of North America. Her company, Cultural Dynamics, is located in Anchorage, Alaska, where she lives.

(BTW, this is a pretty good book)

[xcamel]

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[Red Badger]

"The reason we're asking questions is because we're worried about global warming and what it might do to the Southwest," Overpeck says. "And it might be like when these guys left."

I just knew that was in there somewhere.........

[GATOR NAVY]

There have been no advances in technology in 800 years. We’re as helpless today as the Anasazi were. /s

[PeterFinn]

The disappearance of the Anasazi had more to do with the Aztecs eating them.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/doubleissue/mysteries/anasazi.htm

[okie01]

Cornucopia explains that lack of water for drinking and for growing crops may have led them away. Not enough growth of trees failed to keep the Anasazi warm with firewood.

Did the Anasazi have SUVs and fossil-fueled power plants?

Do Overpeck and Cole (and NPR) realize, I wonder, that they are making a marvelously effective argument that climate change -- when it happens -- is actually a function of natural cycles? That modern man has nothing more to do with it than the Anasazi?

[sean327]

There is another theory about Pueblo Bonito in Chaco Canyon. It’s premis is Pueblo Bonito was purely cerimonial in nature, due to the fact that there are very few grave sites in the immediate vicinity. There are other ancient ruins in the canyon that are strung out for 50 miles, this is where the people lived.

I saw this a couple months ago on the history channel, and thought it was a pretty interesting theory. I grew up in New Mexico and spent alot of time with my dad going to many of these old ruins. Chaco is a fascinating place. I believe the Anasazi became the modern day Pueblo tribes that are now strung out along the Rio Grande from Taos to Isleta, along with Acoma, Laguna, and Zuni(maybe the Hopi also, but I’m not to sure)

[itsahoot]

perhaps, it was for emotional or psychic reasons, or even because of a series of dreams.

Say's it all, I think.

perhaps, it was for emotional or psychic reasons, or even because of a series of dreams.

Say's it all, I think.

[bert]

The southwest never recovered and is still a desert. The fact cities presently exist there is because of massive efforts to divert water from everywhere it can be found.

Growth can not be sustained because there is inadequate water.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Blam. Did you post anything about the Olmec/Shang thing?

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[GovernmentIsTheProblem]

“I have often imagined the streets of Tucson or Phoenix as abandoned, and it’s a bit scary,” she says. “You think that the place that’s the center of your region, the biggest city around, could never crumble and fall, and here it has.”

I live in Phoenix.

Our water comes from huge aquifers, which the Chaco dwellers never built. Some comes from the Colorado.

The parallels are... minimal.