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Chertoff: Respect Muslim-Americans (gag alert)
The Associated Press. ^ | July 11, 2007 | The Associated Press.

Posted on 07/11/2007 1:58:29 PM PDT by Baladas

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff has told NAACP members that it is particularly important to respect the civil rights of Muslim Americans at a time when U.S. troops continue to fight terrorism in the Middle East.

Making Muslims "feel fully included in the work and spirit of America is part of making America a better country," Chertoff said Tuesday night in an address to the civil rights group's 98th annual convention.

Society has "fought too long and too hard for the rights of African Americans to turn our backs on the rights of Muslim Americans," he said

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: chertoff; dhs; enemywithin; muslim; muslim5hcolumn; muslim5thcolumn; waronterror
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To: Baladas

Mixed messages from the WH as usual.

“We are fighting a war against a religion of peace”

. . . Oh I get it now.


101 posted on 07/11/2007 8:13:48 PM PDT by Maynerd (Bush is the Herbert Hoover of border security)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Basque sepratists.


102 posted on 07/12/2007 3:15:39 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: hinckley buzzard
We have a Muslim conservative republican running for office hear, he joined the Navy and he's still in the active reserve as a JAG officer.

He still gets called a terrorist and a terrorist sympathiser, and was attacked for how many Muslims showed up to vote for him -- and that's by his own political party.

I have no idea how many people who profess the Muslim religion have joined our military, but I'm willing to bet it's more than the membership of CAIR.

I found this NY SUN article from last year, Muslims in the Military, it says the military estimates that there are 3700 Muslims.

This Web Page estimates the total number of Muslims in the United States as about 1.5 million, I've seen numbers as high as 5 million from less "objective" sources. Using 1.5 million, that puts the percent of muslims at 1.5/300, or about .5 percent. With about 1 million active duty military, we would expect 5000 muslims -- 3700 is low, but not remarkably low, given the small population to begin with.

103 posted on 07/12/2007 6:46:41 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Baladas
Why don’t we just give those d*mn Muslims the Chertoff our back.
104 posted on 07/12/2007 6:58:48 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Repeat after me liberals:" President Thompson", "President Thompson" . Get used to it.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
No! Never should we disrespect Americans who are Muslims. Being politically correct is far more important than our survival. And it makes us feel sooo good too. Right up to the very instant that those idiots blow themselves to hell and the crowd they blow up among to Kingdom come.
105 posted on 07/12/2007 7:10:31 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Repeat after me liberals:" President Thompson", "President Thompson" . Get used to it.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Your reply to JMP was right on the money.
People who are actually AFRAID that the American people will rise up to eject a killing cancer from our society would do well to remember that we are children of ‘vigilantes’.

Settlers to a new country rose up against the standing government(British)to insure that they could live as they wished, free from submission to a King.

This country EXISTS because of rebels and those who loved freedom enough to fight those who wanted to rule them- to fight EACH OTHER when loyalty differed.
I believe that defiant backbone still exists.
If it does not, then we participate in our own destruction.


106 posted on 07/12/2007 8:22:00 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

I guess we could just kill everybody who we think might do us harm. But when you are the only person left in America, it will be pretty lonely.

Those nice people who live next door are always so sweet and innocent until they break into your house and kill you and your family. Then your other neighbors get to appear on TV saying “But they were always so quiet and peaceful, I never would have thought”.

Maybe we could just blow them up now, just to be safe.


107 posted on 07/12/2007 12:03:10 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Nuc1
Thank you for your thoughtful response. Your points are well taken though I may not agree with all of them.

My point is that to alienate all Muslims because of the actions of some is not in our best interest.

108 posted on 07/12/2007 1:41:35 PM PDT by cerberus
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To: cerberus
My point is that to alienate all Muslims because of the actions of some is not in our best interest.

I find no fault with this. I will say that absent a more forceful response from the Muslim community world wide against the terrorists. Absent this response, people in the west will decide at some point that we would be better off without Islam in our midst. And let us be honest with each other. Islam claims the Middle East as their land, their place to be in a sense, and they accept no one setting foot on it to take the land from them or assault their way of life. Well, the West is our land, our place to be. We accept people from all races, religions, and backgrounds. All we require of them in essence is to pay allegiance to their liberty and the liberty of their fellow citizens. And be responsible participants in the building and defense of their selected nation state.

Now if we could just get the Dims to live up to their responsibility we would be there! :D)

109 posted on 07/12/2007 4:56:01 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Baladas

we need some gravitas for that job — Cherthof is way too limp-wristed for such a heavy responsibilty and clearly over his head despite being head of security for Brown & Root...

RIP Ladybird


110 posted on 07/12/2007 5:00:14 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: Baladas

Chertoff should resign from Homeland Security and go back home and become head of the hapless NJ Republican Party, where he can do no harm.


111 posted on 07/12/2007 5:03:43 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Nuc1
Thanks for your response.

I agree with your position as stated.

112 posted on 07/12/2007 5:03:49 PM PDT by cerberus
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Imagine your nice next door neighbors had in their home- and taught their children from- a book that said you and your children were evil and should be killed if you won’t believe as they do.
Imagine those nice next-door neighbors considered that book, and EVERY WORD in it, holy above all else.
How would you feel about them?
Can you honestly say you’d be ok with neighbors like that? Do you think it’s just fine to have neighbors who believe you should be dead- as long as they don’t have the guts to come and kill you?

Should a black family be ok with neighbors who admit to being white supremacists? Should a Jewish family be perfectly comfortable with a skinhead Nazi family as neighbors? How about people who support NAMBLA living next door to you and your children?
Wouldn’t worry you, eh? Never give them a second thought, right?
It’s human nature to reject that which threatens your life.
The Koran does that.
So why is it illogical to suspect- and reject- people who accept and revere that which threatens me?


113 posted on 07/12/2007 6:21:28 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

The Bible says that if my neighbor is committing adultery, I’m supposed to stone them.

Of course, we don’t believe that part of the bible is applicable to our modern times, but believe it or not, a lot of americanized muslims also have a belief that their bible is more guidance than direction.

I’m not really going to defend the Muslim faith, frankly I don’t feel like defending anybody else’s faith. If I knew my neighbor attended a church that preached that form of evil, i’d be appropriately concerned.

But frankly a lot of people have a lot of beliefs that could harm me, directly or indirectly.


114 posted on 07/12/2007 8:41:09 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Okay, go ahead.


115 posted on 07/12/2007 9:16:57 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Repeat after me liberals:" President Thompson", "President Thompson" . Get used to it, libs.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Oops, turned out that was YOUR house next door.

My bad. Oh well, better safe than sorry...


116 posted on 07/14/2007 5:58:34 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: G Larry
Leaders HAVE TO say this.
If there’s another terrorist attack, the vigilantism will be rampant.

Remember back in 2001, when the U.S. destroyed a building occupied by over 3000 Muslims Remember those Americans, how they were dancing in the streets?

Wait; I got that one wrong! It was a building in the U.S. occupied by 3000 innocent people. Who was dancing in the street again? Oh! That's Right! Muslims; Men, Women, Children. Even some within the U.S.

Now; about vigilantism...

117 posted on 07/14/2007 6:05:34 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: CharlesWayneCT

LOL! Luckily I am out of town this week.


118 posted on 07/14/2007 8:24:57 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Repeat after me liberals:" President Thompson", "President Thompson" . Get used to it, libs.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Did you have a point to make or did you just think you were being cute?

Are you suggesting American’s didn’t react then, so that’s proof they wouldn’t act in the future?

Are you suggesting that there is no reason for our leaders to be worried about a vigilanty response, so that wouldn’t be their motivation for saying these things?


119 posted on 07/14/2007 8:44:18 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: G Larry
Did you have a point to make or did you just think you were being cute?

Are you suggesting American’s didn’t react then, so that’s proof they wouldn’t act in the future?


After 911 there were very few cases of idiots attacking foreign party store owners (the victims tended to be from India).

Even though the MSM says U.S. citizens are the worst people in the world and can’t do anything right we seem to be very merciful.

However; if you are worried about a backlash just remember. If you don’t start nothing...there won’t be nothing.

120 posted on 07/14/2007 9:00:58 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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