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McCain clashes with Voinovich [McCain in "serious fight," "brawl" with Voinovich over Iraq]
Politico ^ | 7/10/07

Posted on 07/10/2007 6:10:14 PM PDT by bnelson44

Fresh off a trip to Iraq, a visibly tired McCain lit into the "liberal left" for advocating retreat in Iraq and then went behind closed doors to brawl with a fellow GOP senator over the war.

In what one senator called "the most serious fight that I have seen in my time in the Senate," McCain clashed with Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio) over the Arizona senator's assertion that the most dangerous threat facing U.S. troops in Iraq was Al Qaeda members.

Voinovich, who recently urged President Bush to change his war policy now, shot back that Al Qaeda "wouldn't be in Iraq" if American forces weren't there, according to people who witnessed the exchange.

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"I've seen this movie before from the liberal left in America, who share no responsibility for what happened in Cambodia when we said no while that mission was still in its early stages," McCain said of the secret U.S. invasion of Cambodia in 1970. Congress later blocked President Richard Nixon from further conducting military actions against Cambodia.

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TOPICS: Extended News; US: Arizona; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: iraq; mccain; voinovich
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To: elhombrelibre
They are right here on FR and they are very vocal. I have never seen so many defeatists on FR as I am seeing now, I cannot describe my utter disappointment with the latest state of FR.
61 posted on 07/10/2007 7:45:54 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: tobyhill

Amen Toby, 100% correct.


62 posted on 07/10/2007 7:46:44 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: traderrob6

They are already here. They are part of the 20,000,000 who crossed our southern “border.”


63 posted on 07/10/2007 7:49:39 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: jveritas

MAJOR bump


64 posted on 07/10/2007 7:49:39 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bnelson44

Where in the hell has Voinovich been? All kind of docs proving al queda was in Iraq with Saddamn long before Bush went it...


65 posted on 07/10/2007 7:50:44 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: jveritas

Agreed. I could understand why the French army collapsed in WWI. I cannot understand why the Republican Party is collapsing other than cowardice of those who are far from the front and afraid to take on the Democrats. These Republicans dishonor those who are in forward areas. If we quit, there will be no peace in Iraq. But there will be a great victory for al Qaeda and Iran. Al Qaeda will be inspired and motivated to fight us on other battlefields. And the Republicans who make that happen will not be able to escape from the consequences of their expediency.


66 posted on 07/10/2007 7:51:11 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Democrats even want foreign terrorists to be treated like US citizens. Their love is misplaced.)
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To: elhombrelibre

>>>Lately, I’ve been reading and hearing Republicans say that we should cut-n-run from Iraq to win the upcoming elections.

They aren’t real republicans. They are Log Cabin Republicans. The Log Cabins are affiliated with anti war protestors.

This is the text from a brochure:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1831372/posts?page=16#16
Political Party Alliance

The National Stonewall Democrats

The National Stonewall Democrats is the nation’s only grassroots Democratic lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender organization. The Stonewall Democrats focus on making change in three ways; educating the LGBT community about the differences in the political parties, mobilizing the LGBT community on election day to get-out to vote for fair-minded Democrats and standing up against the Republicans when they attack our families and civil rights.

Dave Noble, Executive Director www.stonewalldemocrats.org

The Log Cabin Republicans

The mission of the Log Cabin Republicans is to work within the Republican Party to advocate equal rights for all Americans, including gays and lesbians. Log Cabin’s mission derives from our firm belief in the principles of limited government, individual liberty, individual responsibility, free markets and a strong national defense. We emphasize that these principles and the moral values on which they stand are consistent with the pursuit of equal treatment under the law for gay and lesbian Americans.

Patrick Guerriero, Executive Director www.logcabin.org


67 posted on 07/10/2007 7:54:17 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: elhombrelibre
This is the Stonewall Anti War Protest Group:

Stonewall's AntiWar movement funded by International A.N.S.W.E.R.

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68 posted on 07/10/2007 7:54:44 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: elhombrelibre

This is more about Stonewall:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794584/posts


69 posted on 07/10/2007 7:55:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Calpernia

I am really sad about what is going on at FR and this incredible tide of defeatism that is sweeping this forum. Many times I think that I am at DU or Daily KOS when I read on FR the defeatist and Hate Bush posts.

70 posted on 07/10/2007 7:56:07 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: jveritas

You are not alone.


71 posted on 07/10/2007 7:58:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: jveritas
They are right here on FR and they are very vocal. I have never seen so many defeatists on FR as I am seeing now, I cannot describe my utter disappointment with the latest state of FR.

Exactly...looks like the lefties have infiltrated FR...and created what we're seeing today....a number of really great FReepers' accounts were suspended...when the timeout was over...they've elected not to come back. Oh My what a mess...those FReepers were the GREAT DEFENDERS OF EVERYTHING BUSH....

72 posted on 07/10/2007 7:58:34 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: elhombrelibre

I have great faith in our brave troops, President Bush, an enough number of Congress people, and a minority of Patriots to keep fighting this war until we win. I would rather die than I see the unimaginable horrible consequences on the United States and the world if we leave Iraq before we defeat the terrorists there.


73 posted on 07/10/2007 8:00:15 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: jveritas
KEEP IN MIND THIS IS THE ENEMIES ATTACKING FR...They’ve infiltrated FR...
74 posted on 07/10/2007 8:00:47 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: enough_idiocy

McCAIN FOR SECDEF IN 2008!

LET’S KICK SOME ASS!


75 posted on 07/10/2007 8:02:55 PM PDT by aShepard (Oh little Mohammad, Couchy, Couchy Coo; your momma is so proud, you'll be the cutest suicide bomber)
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To: bnelson44

This is one case where i’d like McCain to get physical with the guy. Good job John.


76 posted on 07/10/2007 8:05:44 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: shield
The sad part my fellow FReeper is that most of those defeatists are not left wing trolls, they have been here for a long time, most notably those who belong to the class of 2000, not all of them but a huge number of the year 2000 freepers are defeatists, anti-Republican, and anti-Bush.
77 posted on 07/10/2007 8:05:53 PM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: shield

They aren’t just members though. Some have mod control. That is the disturbing part.


78 posted on 07/10/2007 8:06:15 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: aShepard

THAT is over the top. I’m all for giving credit when due.


79 posted on 07/10/2007 8:07:30 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: oldleft
And Hitler never would have taken over Europe if not for the Treaty of Versailles, so we should have given up due to that stupid mistake.

Shouldn't post that, Voinovich doesn't know who Hilter was, but he and mcvain have cornered the adult depends market.

80 posted on 07/10/2007 8:09:32 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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