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Conservatives, Beware of Fred Thompson
ConservativeHQ ^ | 7-2007 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 07/10/2007 9:06:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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To: A_Tradition_Continues

Bingo, we have a winner...


81 posted on 07/10/2007 9:57:31 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Don't worry hippie, we'll defend you too. Now fetch my Cafe Mocha will you....)
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To: WhiteGuy

I’m fairly sure Thompson voted to convict on one or more charges and to acquit on one.

And no Senator can vote “against impeachment proceedings.” Only the House has the power to impeach. The impeachment TRIAL is held in the Senate.


82 posted on 07/10/2007 9:57:50 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Dick Bachert
Viguerie has proven himself to be an accurate and competent researcher and purveyor of factual information in the past

Really, well then let's dissect this little nugget from early in this article.

If he’s that ineffectual against an easy target like Bill Clinton at the height of his parade of scandals, why should we expect Thompson to be any more effective against, say, the other partner in the Clintons’ 20-year plan to rule the nation?
Characterizing bill clinton as an easy target doesn't exactly seem like the factual information produced by accurate and competent research. In spite of mountains of evidence of wrong-doing, obstruction of justice, invasion of privacy, abuse of power regarding every thing from the travel office firings to FBI files to sexual assault to purloined billing records to insider trading to exporting sensitive military infomation to the Chinese, how many actual charges were any of the STAR investigators and prosecutors able to stick on either of the "easy target" clintons?
83 posted on 07/10/2007 9:57:57 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: ejonesie22

The something it may say isn’t neccessarily good.


84 posted on 07/10/2007 9:58:23 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Dick Bachert
Be warned: I am armed and have this deeply honed instinct to shoot back.

*************

A fan of the Second Amendment, are you? Just like Fred. :)

85 posted on 07/10/2007 9:58:50 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ejonesie22

This is a Democr*p hit piece. I’m for Fred and always will be. He isn’t Reagan but so what? Only Reagan was Reagan. He will give leadership at a time when we need it. Looking at the other people who are standing for the Republican nomination he looks like the best running. Expect more mud to come and exect it in buckets.


86 posted on 07/10/2007 9:59:14 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Oliver Optic
The calculation that many conservatives are making is that a likable, electable nominee who is 80% conservative ... but has a penchant for communicating common sense conservatism to Joe Citizen ... is better than a 100% guy who who demonstrates little or no appeal to non-ideological voters and centrists.

AND is also far better than a 20 percent guy like Rudy, who would split the GOP.

87 posted on 07/10/2007 9:59:27 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: f150sound
in 1994
Don't you read your own excerpts? BTW, what's Thompson's actual voting record on abortion? And what's he said recently?
88 posted on 07/10/2007 9:59:58 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Dick Bachert

Once a Constitutional rights infringer.....always a Constitutional rights infringer.


89 posted on 07/10/2007 10:00:50 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (1/27 Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: eyespysomething
“Everybody loves Fred,” gushes Sally. “He has the healing qualities of Gerald Ford and the movie-star appeal of Ronald Reagan. He is relatively moderate on social issues. He has a reputation as a peacemaker and a compromiser. And he has a good sense of humor. He could be just the partner to bring out Bush’s better nature…”

Sally Quinn is Fredthusiastic!

90 posted on 07/10/2007 10:00:54 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan)
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To: pogo101
I’m fairly sure Thompson voted to convict on one or more charges and to acquit on one.

Any source?

Even if true, the failure of the republican senate to force clinton from office for political reasons is more than enough to eliminate each one individually from further political consideration.

IMHO

91 posted on 07/10/2007 10:01:07 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006 - PAUL2008)
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To: VRWCmember
If he’s that ineffectual against an easy target like Bill Clinton at the height of his parade of scandals,

Neglected is the point that Fred did vote to remove on one of the articles of impeachment (obstruction), and he wrote a compelling dissection of why the perjury article was severely flawed.

The House had myriad reasons to impeach Clinton. They chose Monicagate, and did a rather poor job with it at that. It ain't Fred's fault that the House GOP mishandled impeachment.

92 posted on 07/10/2007 10:01:37 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
This is a Democr*p hit piece.

Hardly. It comes from the "funding father" of conservative direct mail - one of the original Reaganites.

93 posted on 07/10/2007 10:01:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Implement the FairTax and be free and prosperous, or stick with the StupidTax...it's up to you...)
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To: pogo101

You are correct about the “impeachment” charge. That charge amazed me when I first heard it for the reason you state. If the Senate had anything to do with impeachment, Clinton would not have been impeached.

I wonder how many are unaware that Clinton was impeached because they are ignorant of the meaning of the term.


94 posted on 07/10/2007 10:02:09 AM PDT by HoustonTech
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To: Dick Bachert
All of this may be true and Viguerie may be right. The problem is what's the alternative?

By the time Viguerie's conservative savior arrives we'll have Rudy Giuliani as the GOP nominee. As a conservative in "anybody but Giuliani" mode, Fred Thompson looks pretty damn good.

Thompson is not Reagan and he may not be a conservative savior, but he may be the man capable of saving the GOP from fracturing and landing on the ash heap of history. Maybe that needs to happen, but Viguerie needs to offer a viable alternative and be prepared for the consequences because he probably won't live to see another conservative president or majority.

95 posted on 07/10/2007 10:02:19 AM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08)
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To: maine-iac7
He neglected to add that Fred was REELECTED to a new term in even bigger record numbers! He likely would have been so reelected in 2002, leaving office in Jan 2003 after 11 years in office= but he had just lost a child and decided not to pursue another campaign. Personal tragedy can slow one down for a bit.

Also, as many forget, Fred ran on a pro-term limit platform and promised from day one to only serve two terms- a promise he kept.

As for the article, I'm going through these votes, but I see some that are referenced are procedural votes and not actual bill votes. There was a influx of anti-Fred posts a few weeks back quoting some anti-immigration site that proved Fred voted for illegal immigration. This was shown to be bogus because they only pointed out the procedural votes to move the bill to and from committee (which he voted For) and ignored completely that when the actual bill went to vote, he voted against it.

96 posted on 07/10/2007 10:02:28 AM PDT by mnehring (Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit)
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To: WhiteGuy
Even if true, the failure of the republican senate to force clinton from office for political reasons is more than enough to eliminate each one individually from further political consideration.

Gawd, that is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen on FR.

It takes a 2/3rds vote to remove from office.

Now show us where the Senate GOP had a supermajority.

At the end of the day, Slick was not removed from office because the Dems refused to vote to do such.

97 posted on 07/10/2007 10:02:59 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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To: WhiteGuy
He actually wasn’t against impeachment proceedings. For one thing, a Senator doesn’t vote in impeachment proceedings, he votes in the trial. I get SO tired of giving civics lessons on this point!

Secondly, Thompson found the President guilty on one charge but felt that the prosecution had not met the burden of proof on the other charge. His explanation of his vote is thought provoking and screams “Federalist”.

98 posted on 07/10/2007 10:03:27 AM PDT by brothers4thID (FDT: "Every notice that while our problems are getting bigger, our politicians are getting smaller?")
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To: EternalVigilance

Reagan would not approve of this kind of attack on a fellow Republican. How can one call himself a “Reaganite” when he behaves like and talks like a Democrat?


99 posted on 07/10/2007 10:03:34 AM PDT by HoustonTech
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To: Anonymous Rex

I think all it says is that he needs staff.


100 posted on 07/10/2007 10:03:51 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Don't worry hippie, we'll defend you too. Now fetch my Cafe Mocha will you....)
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