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Conservatives, Beware of Fred Thompson
ConservativeHQ ^ | 7-2007 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 07/10/2007 9:06:01 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

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To: Gabz
I had a contract with a group of funeral directors that were seeking to change a couple of sections of the state code that covered them.

You went to bat for one of the most egregious examples of government-sponsored restraint-of-trade based upon bogus pork-barrel standards for health and safety that I can contemplate. I'll be buried on my own land, thank you, except that your employers went running to various levels of government to preclude it with a phone-book full of preferential regulations (as if an appropriate place for a dead body couldn't be found on 14 acres). I've told my kids I'd rather they didn't find the body.

We differ.

I don’t personally care what your opinion of “lobbyists” is, I know I have nothing to be ashamed of for what I did for a living, nor do most of the people I worked with in the same field.

I prefer a risk-management system that isn't micro-managed by government agencies with structural motive to either fail or sell out. You quite apparently, conveniently and incorrectly suppose there is no alternative. I have a patent application in front of me that suggests that is incorrect. The USPTO has been messing with it for nearly seven years and what do you know but I've never written a single letter complaining to my legislators.

We differ.

I have no doubt you conducted yourself ethically within a system that is in large part of seriously questionable legitimacy.

1,001 posted on 07/10/2007 11:23:04 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Carry_Okie
Lobbyists are all about influencing government to buy advantage in the marketplace, not focusing on building better mousetraps. They're one step above an NGO lawyer.

Yep... One step above, just before your foot squishes that fresh dog turd in the yard...

I have no faith in the legal system at all.

1,002 posted on 07/10/2007 11:23:09 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: EternalVigilance; brothers4thID

Well, I for one, will take some protection over none. Right now, those areas where abortion is indeed “rare” cannot make it illegal.
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BTW, I don’t see anyone in the future who will criminalize the woman who has an abortion - any more than we are going to see renewed laws criminalizing suicide or suicide attempts. (Sorry, Mrs. Jones, but the Sheriff’s going to take this fine out of your husband’s estate.) People have a strong sense of “that could have been me” that we will have to get around before any such thing ever happens.

The proper place is in the laws regulating medicine - make it a high risk procedure that threatens a physician’s license and that carries penalties for practicing medicine without a license for anyone else.

Have you heard about our several cases of successfully convicting men for killing unborn children in Texas? We were criticized for allowing the insertion of language to protect both the mother and the abortionist - but we are now punishing 3 or 4 men that we couldn’t have before. Hopefully others will be deterred.


1,003 posted on 07/10/2007 11:24:40 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://ccgoporg.blogspot.com/)
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To: Little Ray
Is the Fred Thompson negative stuff coming from Dems mostly. I would take that to mean they are really scared of him. And what about Duncan Hunter. Is it that he hasn’t yet caught on and the Dems therefore aren’t afraid of him. I’d like to see pros and cons side by side on both men. Anybody want to tackle that?

Maybe I'm just tired but it's getting to be too much for me to take in. I guess it is still early but I sure would like to see a "clear cut" nominee who we could back with confidence. Is that man out there? Have we already seen him and don't recognize him yet? Is there yet someone else waiting in the wings? I hate this game more and more every day. I'm taking two aspirin and going to bed. Good night.

1,004 posted on 07/10/2007 11:49:20 PM PDT by Frwy (Proud member of the vast right wing conspiracy.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Isn’t this the guy who wanted us to vote for John Kerry last time?


1,005 posted on 07/11/2007 2:42:52 AM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: mhking

BTTT


1,007 posted on 07/11/2007 2:56:17 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: EternalVigilance

That is a good, quick rundown of the division between Natural Law and “Pure Law” as pertains to the abortion issue. You seem to think I disagree with you on this point. I don’t.

What I cannot fathom is what you mean by demanding that the Executive fulfill his oath of office on this issue. This is how we left it last time. What executive power should the President use in this battle, that he is not currently using? I suppose he could call out the National Guard to forcefully shut down all abortion clinics, in the name of protecting the rights of the unborn. Is that what you are getting at?


1,008 posted on 07/11/2007 4:30:39 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: airborne

“In 1977 he worked on a project to raise money for Sun Myung Moon’s Children’s Relief Fund, which reportedly only received 6.3% of the $1,508,256 raised. $920,000 went to Viguerie according to New York State charity auditors.”

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What a guy!


1,009 posted on 07/11/2007 4:55:51 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: mhking

Thanks for the ping. I’m a little late. :)


1,010 posted on 07/11/2007 4:56:49 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Dick Bachert

Fred Thompson, Lamar Alexander, Howard Baker .....CFR.

I’m tired of getting my candidates *chosen* for me.

Duncan Hunter 08


1,011 posted on 07/11/2007 4:59:09 AM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: Dick Bachert

As mad as we are are about the betrayal by Bush... I just get this sinking feeling in my gut that Fred would be like going out of the frying pan and into the fire...

I do NOT want to be fooled again !


1,012 posted on 07/11/2007 5:12:33 AM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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To: stm

Agreed. As for the author, I think that he may have overlooked the fact that,more often than not, if you want something voted on,you may have to ok some items in a bill that, if presented alone,you wouldn’t normally vote for.I think Fred’s the right man,all that other stuff aside. Besides...some of the amendments/proposals he cited are from 10 or 12 years ago. Can’t a person change their mind as they grow older and/or wiser? (exempt from that:dems and RINOs)


1,013 posted on 07/11/2007 5:12:54 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (The FREDeration is here.All your votes are belong to us.)
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To: JMack; All
“due to a growing anti establishment sentiment I’m suffering from of late”

I concur. See post #1011 FReeper constantly grip about the *Country club* mentality in Washington and the *status quo*. Until We vote these people out of office and regain control, expect more of the same from OUR Gov. Also realize there are groups like CFR who, have had a hand in elections and world policy for 70+ yrs. These are the rich, elitist bastards who think they are smarter than the *common* folk and know what's best for us and our future. I think Not!

1,014 posted on 07/11/2007 5:13:30 AM PDT by wolfcreek (2 bad Tyranny, Treachery and Treason never take a vacation...)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

It’s not even remotely disingenuous, especially considering WHO of the Bush people he has on staff.


1,015 posted on 07/11/2007 5:22:54 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

P.S. Associating Jorge W. Bush with Reagan is sickening. Jorge isn’t 1/20th the president and man that Reagan was.


1,016 posted on 07/11/2007 5:28:53 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: AnAmericanMother
I was wondering how long it would take someone to notice that...honestly the state of our educational system makes me fear for our entire civilization's future.

Viguerie is just another one of those soured old hyper-conservative know-it-all's. Being a knee-jerk conservative is no better than being a knee-jerk liberal...well aside from starting on the right side...it is reacting without thought, reason, or a sense of practicality.

Run-Fred-Run!...Win-Fred-Win!
1,017 posted on 07/11/2007 5:34:50 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Never underestimate the ability of a Liberal to lie.)
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To: RachelFaith

Quite right! Better Hillary than any of those George W. Bush look alikes. I’m sure her Supreme Court Appointments would be far superior to those of the men you named.


1,018 posted on 07/11/2007 5:45:01 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Never underestimate the ability of a Liberal to lie.)
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To: jwh_Denver

“The ‘hardcore’ conservatives are much like the Brits of the 19th century.”

Never trust a moderate. They’re like traitors because you never know what they’ll do.

Actually, if somebody has earned the designation of ‘traitor’ its because we do in fact know what they ‘did’.

Traitor, like Liar, is used way too often, and normally way out of context. This is one of those moments in my opinion.

I reserve such terms for real ‘traitors’ or real ‘liars’.

This doesn’t meet the criteria to me.


1,019 posted on 07/11/2007 5:52:43 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Dick Bachert

Did I miss the part where his immigration stance and view of growing the government are covered? I skimmed the middle third of it or so.


1,020 posted on 07/11/2007 6:02:32 AM PDT by subterfuge (Today, Tolerance =greatest virtue;Hypocrisy=worst character defect; Discrimination =worst atrocity)
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