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Couple: HIV 2 Year Old Barred from Pool
abcnews.go.com ^ | 07/09/07 | abc

Posted on 07/09/2007 11:09:29 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3

Toddler Was Denied Shower Access as Well:

A couple says their vacation was ruined when an RV park owner told them they weren't welcome after discovering their 2-year-old foster son had the HIV virus. Last week, Dick and Silvia Glover went to the Wales West RV Park in Silver Hill, Ala., with their foster son Caleb. When the boy was banned from using the pool and showers, the Glovers said they were offered an uncomfortable and painful choice: They could either keep Caleb out of the water or leave.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aidscrisis; aidsvirus; cdc; communicabledisease; couple; hiv; homosexualagenda; pcdisease; pool; publichealth; rvpark; viniusinvictus
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To: SoftballMominVA

At a fitness club where I am a member the club forbids children under 14 years of age to even enter the hottub. This is not for safety reasons, but because young children tend to urinate in the water. And, children wearing diapers could also deficate in the water. This does pose a health hazard. This child is two and has was reported to have a serious virus that can be transmitted through bodily fluids. The park owner, I’d guess, is within his rights to ban this child once the condition was made public.


81 posted on 07/09/2007 12:06:46 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in the Triangle of Death)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
But as far as the pool owner in this story, why not allow him the freedom to make a decision concerning his pool and the safety of his customers.

As long as the pool owner has not problem writing a big check to his attorney as well as an even bigger check when he loses a lawsuit he can do as he pleases.

82 posted on 07/09/2007 12:09:02 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: Millers Cave
pfffft...

I've heard it all before...

I'm still not interested in playing tonsil hockey with someone who is HIV positive.

83 posted on 07/09/2007 12:14:23 PM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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To: trumandogz
Come on there are billions of pages of data on the Internet. Just find one page out of the billions that even suggests that people have contracted HIV via non sexual activity is a chlorinated swimming pool.

First of all, a significant portion of what is on the internet is misleading or false. Unless one knows the answer in advance, it's a crap shoot.
I would never rely on life threatening information from the internet under any circumstances.
If you're OK with that, knock yourself out.

Certain subjects are taboo and are removed immediately, factual or not, internet or not. That is a given, as far as I'm concerned.

84 posted on 07/09/2007 12:15:37 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: expatguy
That nice to know - I also heard that it can be spread by kissing - but would you kiss someone with HIV?

I have shared a house with a person with HIV AIDS. We did not kiss, but we sat at the same table, shared meals and even the same bathroom. That was 20 years ago and I am okay.

85 posted on 07/09/2007 12:21:16 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: L98Fiero
My point would be that if one is that nervous about catching HIV or TB or any other communicable disease they should never allow their children to use a public or probably even a private pool. There is simply no way of knowing that every person in that pool is safe and that your child is free of risk. The only way of being that sure is to use your own facilities and strictly monitor the conditions of the water and any visitors.

If a child has ever used a public pool, there is probably a 100% chance that they have come in contact with someone with something that is contagious and/or harmful.

86 posted on 07/09/2007 12:22:11 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA (Never argue with an idiot. He will bring you down to his level and beat you with experience)
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To: Xenalyte

I suppose I won’t hear yelling, “Free Bird!” any time soon, then. :-)


87 posted on 07/09/2007 12:24:25 PM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: trumandogz
I doubt the two year old baby will be at the pool having sex, giving blood transfusions or sharing dirty needles with the other kids.

Magic Johnson wasn't going to do any of those things on the basketball court either........

88 posted on 07/09/2007 12:24:27 PM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
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To: expatguy
I'm still not interested in playing tonsil hockey with someone who is HIV positive.

Me either. But I'm not worried about catching HIV from a swimming pool.

89 posted on 07/09/2007 12:25:04 PM PDT by Millers Cave
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To: Publius6961
First of all, a significant portion of what is on the internet is misleading or false.

If that is the case, why even use the Internet?

90 posted on 07/09/2007 12:25:17 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: HamiltonJay

“Your ignorance truly knows no bounds does it?’

Thanks, I needed that.


91 posted on 07/09/2007 12:26:13 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: pfflier

No one else may have read your post but I did.
Bears repeating.....

>>My God I am amazed at the abject ignorance displayed here.

How did the second person on earth get AIDS? Answer: From the first person.

I have been a school teacher for 15+ years, I have been bled on, spit on, scratched and bitten by kids who may or may not have HIV. I can’t ask and they won’t tell me who is infected. The odds are that sooner or later I will be exposed, without my knowledge because of your half-assed amazement.

Happy swimming.<<

My girls would be the one’s playing with this boy. They have been bitten by other children. Your post has made me think.....


92 posted on 07/09/2007 12:27:13 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I’m sure there are cases of people contracting AIDS/HIV without being sure where the infection came from.

Never say never.


93 posted on 07/09/2007 12:28:07 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Netizen
Magic Johnson wasn't going to do any of those things on the basketball court either........

Just goes to show that a few NBA players are on the same intellectual level as the population of an Alabama trailer park.

94 posted on 07/09/2007 12:30:27 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: 66-442hot
it was a BABY RUTH candybar.

Oops! Sorry, my mistake. It was an "accident." :)

95 posted on 07/09/2007 12:30:39 PM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

I think the pool owner’s concern was not only for the safety of the other guests, but about their reaction as well. He may have been approached by other patrons and had to choose between *offending* one family and a whole hotel worth of guests. It’s a tough choice but I’d consider that he chose the lesser of two evils.

The child may be infected with more than just AIDS/HIV anyway.

Besides, considering what I’ve seen toddlers do in pools, I never liked swimming in there with them anyway.


96 posted on 07/09/2007 12:32:01 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: L98Fiero; HamiltonJay; expatguy
It's a lose-lose for the park owner; If he had allowed the girl to swim, I'd bet that some shill (clued in) would have sued him for knowingly allowed the girl to swim.

He doesn't allow her to swim and he gets sued, and mommy gets to keep it all.

The HIV virus, btw, dies on contact, outside the body, within seconds. In contact with everyday disinfectants (i.e., in this case chlorinated water), even handsoap, immediately.

That fact comes from a researcher at GlaxoSmithKline....

97 posted on 07/09/2007 12:36:09 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: Publius6961

Your informed choice? An informed choice is only useful if the person processing the information has an ounce of understanding. Which people claiming they are going to get HIV from swimming with someone who has it, shows they clearly do not.

HIV is not jumping person to person through pool water, if it did frankly nearly every person thats ever entered a swimming pool or watering hole would be infected.

Fortunately HIV is not spread by such means, in fact its relatively difficult to contract HIV.

HIV is not TB, its not Ebola and its not Sars or the bird flu. Its a very difficult disease to spread, if it wasn’t and could be spread by casual contact or airborn or waterborn exposure, you and I likely would not be having this conversation because one or both of us would likely be dead.


98 posted on 07/09/2007 12:36:22 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Francis McClobber

Not I. I’m the only Texan I know who cannot stand Skynyrd. :)

HATE that band. I had a fiance once who made me observe five seconds’ respectful silence after “Free Bird.” Ugh.


99 posted on 07/09/2007 12:38:28 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: metmom

Cite me one case, just one in nearly 30 years of case study with anyone being infected by simply being in a pool with an HIV+ person.

It doesn’t exist.

Far more risk from those toddlers in their swimming diapers in that pool spreading a disease than an HIV+ person even with a cut being in the pool.


100 posted on 07/09/2007 12:39:01 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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