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IS THERE ANYTHING THE REPUBLICANS COULD DO? FAIRTAX!!
Nealznuze ^ | 7-9-07 | Neal Boortz

Posted on 07/09/2007 5:49:04 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

Well .. how about the FairTax? When are the politicians going to realize that the people just love this idea? Just this past Saturday Rudy Giuliani was jeered in Jacksonville, Florida when he tried to explain to a crowd his opposition to the FairTax. Then came the equivocating. Rudy said that he "had to study it some more." Gee ... ya think? Rudy also said that he didn't think the FairTax is realistic. And the present system is?

Then came the clincher: Rudy said that "our economy is dependent upon the way our tax system operates." So, in other words, a new tax system that would make the U.S. the world's number one tax haven; a tax system that would completely un-tax the poor; a tax system that would have every major business in the world looking for a way to locate operations in the United States; such a tax system would be bad for our economy?

Here's a link to the story about Rudy in Jacksonville.

Now ... here's a twist. This Associated Press story about Rudy being jeered in Jacksonville was run on at least two websites. Breitbart and MyWay. In the Breitbart version the headline is correct: "Giuliani Jeered for Opposing Fair Tax." In the MyWay version the headline reads; "Giuliani Jeered for Opposing Flat Tax." My Jacksonville contacts tell me that the Breitbart version of the story is correct. So why was the whole story changed in the MyWay/AP website version? Why the FairTax on Breitbart, and then a flat tax on the AP site. Anyone want to address that


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Rudy MAY be America's mayor but he'd be a disaster as America's president.
1 posted on 07/09/2007 5:49:06 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: ancient_geezer; Man50D

ping!


2 posted on 07/09/2007 5:51:37 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Dick Bachert

Fair tax would do it.


3 posted on 07/09/2007 5:54:12 AM PDT by badpacifist (Remember when preachers used to preach and rock stars used to sing.)
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To: Dick Bachert
Why the FairTax on Breitbart, and then a flat tax on the AP site. Anyone want to address that

My guess is that AP doesn't know the difference.

4 posted on 07/09/2007 5:54:15 AM PDT by econjack
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To: econjack

Probably not. It’s not as if HR25 is so uncomplicated that a 12 year old could read it in 20 minutes and get it. /s


5 posted on 07/09/2007 5:55:35 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Dick Bachert
Rudy will need to be educated at The Fair Tax Rally on August 11th in Ames Iowa. Dare To Be Fair II
6 posted on 07/09/2007 5:59:56 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: ovrtaxt

Methinks you underestimate both the ignorance and the liberal partisanship (highly correlated, BTW, IMHO) of your average AP journalist or editor.


7 posted on 07/09/2007 6:06:46 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: Dick Bachert

There is too much prosperity and FREEDOM in a Fair Tax.

Much easier to control/manipulate segments of the population with a graduated tax system.

The Fair Tax would eliminate a great deal of a politico’s power, and the majority in D.C. are scared to death of the Fair Tax.


8 posted on 07/09/2007 6:12:20 AM PDT by Hornet19 (It's Time to Put Up or Shut Up...Where Do You Stand?)
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To: Hornet19
The Fair Tax would eliminate a great deal of a politico’s power, and the majority in D.C. are scared to death of the Fair Tax.

Exactly, which is why we need it. If you don't think they're in it for the power, one is hard-pressed to explain why you would spend $100 million for a job that pays $200,000. Personally, I'd accept either the Fair Tax or a flat tax of 17% like Friedman proposed. Either one would accomplish the same goals and, I think, a flat tax would be easier to administer. (I'm not too crazy about the "prebate" bureaucracy the Fair Tax would create, but it would still be a vast improvement.)

9 posted on 07/09/2007 6:18:10 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Hornet19

You put your finger on it. The power to reward friends and punish enemies by the tax system is the greatest power that the politicians have. They are NEVER going to relinquish that.


10 posted on 07/09/2007 6:19:06 AM PDT by jack308
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To: Dick Bachert

If the FairTax is revenue neutral (according to their website) what, again, is the benefit? Is it that the tax burden shifts even more to the wealthy? Is this why Steve Forbes backs it? He wants to pay more tax?


11 posted on 07/09/2007 6:19:55 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

The FairTax changes the way the revenue is collected. There is no intrusion into one’s personal finances, it’s all done at the point of sale of new items. The simplicity is hard to overstate- I live in a state (FL) that’s funded by a sales tax and no income tax. HR25 would operate in much the same way.

http://www.fairtax.org


12 posted on 07/09/2007 6:23:29 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Yes, I read their website. If you and Boortz are saying that this is primarily about it being simple, but not cheaper, do you really struggle that much to understand the current system? And, is Boortz so naiive to think that some kind of collection agency won’t be needed to police the sales tax payers?


13 posted on 07/09/2007 6:29:01 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
do you really struggle that much to understand the current system?

Tell you what. I can explain the entire concept of HR25 in a couple of sentences. Can you do that with the current tax code? No.

14 posted on 07/09/2007 6:31:43 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Dick Bachert
I've being hearing for years about the fair tax...All talk when are we going to see some action? When?


15 posted on 07/09/2007 6:40:42 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Dutchboy88
This is one of the most shockingly dumb statements I’ve heard on this board. My tax return along with supporting documents was about 2 inches thick last year and it cost me $2,000 to have my accountant put it together. So yes, since I have to hire a professional, I do struggle to understand the current system.
16 posted on 07/09/2007 6:41:56 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: ovrtaxt

List your income. Subtract the deductions and personal exemptions. Look up tax.

You’re right. It took me three.


17 posted on 07/09/2007 6:44:31 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: darkwing104

You know about the FairTax supporters showing up and dominating a Fred Thompson rally in SC a few weeks ago?

He was ‘surprised’ to say the least. Well over half of the attendees were FairTaxers.

We see action when people like you and me take it. The news industry is desperately ignoring it.


18 posted on 07/09/2007 6:44:56 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Dutchboy88

Wrong.

I own three businesses. Try again.


19 posted on 07/09/2007 6:45:46 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: FightThePower!

Shockingly dumb? It sounds as though you are involved in a wide variety of unusual transactions. Hmmm. Let me think. What you really don’t like is that the US govt. actually traps some part of all of this and you think your tax bill will go down. So, shifting the burden from you to us is the FairTax objective. Your remark belies a shockingly self-serving attitude, which is fine if you would just tell us the truth.


20 posted on 07/09/2007 6:48:45 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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