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With 40-Year Prism, Newark Surveys Deadly Riot
NY Times ^
| July 8, 2007
| ANDREW JACOBS
Posted on 07/08/2007 3:20:43 PM PDT by neverdem
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:20:47 PM PDT
by
neverdem
To: Coleus; jocon307; Alberta's Child; Pharmboy; Calpernia; Malsua; dead; nj26; OldFriend; Clemenza; ...
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:22:06 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
To: neverdem
He was only 10 years old back then, but somehow it was George Bush’s fault.(/sarcasm)
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:24:27 PM PDT
by
Mark
(REMEMBER: Mean spirited, angry remarks against my postings won't feed even one hungry child.)
To: neverdem
The riots turned Newark, Camden and Detroit into human wastelands and its all been downhill ever since.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:29:39 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
The violence of the 1960’s was ignited by radical elements who followed Marx.
The early 1960’s non-violent coercive protests (sit-ins and marches in the South) had established the principle that breaking the law was justified to fight racism-segregation so the next step to violent breaking of the law was easy.
For better or worse, that’s how it came dowh.
We cannot allow people who worship the “Civil Rights Movement” and preach “diversity” to bring back the bitter divisions of the past by igniting racial hatreds.
The talk of “being aware of our differences” is just a shoehorn to stir up this ugly past.
Americans need to find unity and common ground today and not be divided against each other.
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:32:52 PM PDT
by
Nextrush
To: Nextrush
Ha! The Left has been busy dividing and turning Americans against each other ever since. The last thing it wants is to celebrate diversity and promote reconciliation. In the past 40 years, the hate and rage festering inside these people has only gotten worse. Whatever they are, sweetness and light are not among their redeeming qualities.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:37:21 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
With 40-Year Prism, Newark Surveys Deadly Riot
Prism, Urim, Thummim -- I'd trade 'em all for a 56" DLP 1080i. -- Joseph Smith
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:42:01 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: neverdem
“There is not one truth, and your view depends on your race, your age and where you lived, said Linda Caldwell Epps, president of the New Jersey Historical Society.”
The muse of history just committed suicide. News at 11. Well, no, news is history... forget it.
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:45:24 PM PDT
by
gcruse
To: neverdem
“There are no public monuments to mark the episode that painted Newark as a national symbol of racial disparity, police brutality and urban despair....”
Really? A drive down Springfield Ave. will give one a view of the monuments - the burned out shells of buildings that still line sections of that artery. Now I admit it’s been 2 years since I ventured down that way, but if it’s been finally changed since then I’d be shocked.
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:47:10 PM PDT
by
whatexit
To: neverdem
Definition of a crummy city . . . a place where they celebrate anniversaries of a riot as the one defining moment in the city’s history.
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posted on
07/08/2007 3:47:26 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
(I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
To: neverdem
There is not one truth, and your view depends on your race, your age and where you lived, said Linda Caldwell Epps, president of the New Jersey Historical Society. If true what is the need for a Historical Society?
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posted on
07/08/2007 4:18:30 PM PDT
by
MrBambaLaMamba
(Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
To: neverdem
To the frightened white residents who later abandoned Newark by the tens of thousands, it was a riot; for the black activists who gained a toehold in City Hall in the years that followed, it was a rebellion. The white residents rebelled too. With moving vans.
To: neverdem
There are no public monuments to mark the episode that painted Newark as a national symbol of racial disparity, police brutality and urban despair, but there is a newfound willingness here to confront the past. If they were truly willing to confront the past then they would admit that the "episode" is also a national symbol of the violence and racist hatred that are endemic to black Americans.
To: neverdem
As I've said on earlier threads, my father's family (aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., his parents having moved to Rahway in 1963), all lived in Newark at the time. My great uncle was a Newark City cop who told me a major problem once the National Guard was called in was that there was ZERO communication between the Guard and the NPD. As a result, they wound up shooting at eachother on occassion.
Also, during the riots, most the black owned businesses that had a "Soul Brother" sign in their windows were spared. The other businesses (largely Jewish owned, btw) along Springfield Avenue were cleaned out within minutes in some cases.
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posted on
07/08/2007 4:43:22 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
To: whatexit
Springfield Avenue in Newark has actually seen alot of new construction over the past few years. There is a huge Home Depot and Target there now, along with brand new low-rise public housing.
Springfield Avenue in Irvington is another story...worse than anywhere in Newark.
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posted on
07/08/2007 4:44:43 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
To: Clemenza
[[The other businesses (largely Jewish owned, btw) along Springfield Avenue were cleaned out within minutes in some cases.]]
You mean like all of the Walmarts in New Orleans during Hurrican Katrina?
To: Mark
To: Buffettfan
Yep. All of these stores that were nice enough to let these poor folk buy appliances and clothing on credit were wiped in a flash. My uncle told me that as soon as they got a call that there was looting, they knew the place would be cleaned out as soon as they got there.
Unlike Wal Mart, these guys were small businessmen, and these stores were all that they had. After the riots, they took whatever savings or insurance they had and opened businesses elsewhere, leading to the hood rats whining about "disinvestment in their communities."
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posted on
07/08/2007 5:00:51 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
To: OldFriend; BobS; Calpernia; firebrand
Newarkie ping!
For all of its faults, Newark has at least seen significant, if at times only cosmetic, improvements. This is largely thansk to Prudential and having connected pols in Trenton. Camden, Paterson, and Irvington on the other hand...
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posted on
07/08/2007 5:02:25 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
To: Steely Tom
“The white residents rebelled too. With moving vans.”
Ditto for Detroit. And those moving vans contained brains, talent, good will and money too. If it wasn’t for the high cost of Detroit’s crime problems, most white people of a certain age couldn’t care less about Detroit’s fate.
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